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The ball was out on the wing, which is where I presume the ref was looking, and the pull back happened on about the penalty spot. There’s a chance the ref did see it, but at best he could only have seen the incident in his peripheral vision and therefore would have been guessing. 

I really don’t see what’s wrong with giving the ref another chance to see things that he has missed - in this incident, once he had seen the replay he made his decision very quickly - indicating that he wasn’t in any doubt and, had he seen it initially, he would have blown there and then. 

It’s only a issue because it’s gone against us - had the same decision been reached at the other end, saving us from a defeat instead of preventing a win, then I wager the tone on here (and in the commentary) would have been very different and we’d all be saying what a good thing VAR is. 

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The Nations League was a success. That is a rare accomplishment for UEFA.

It's still friendlies but all teams tried to win.

I thought that England were second best against Holland yet England only lost due to carelessness. If the current Dutch side had van Persie or van Nistelrooy they'd be world champs.

I think that VAR got both decisions wrong against England. I don't think that Lingard was offside, and like Stuart I think that the Swiss defender made a meal of the contact, which occurred way before (in VAR time) the header hit the bar.

VAR has good and bad, it is here to stay and will hopefully improve.

Although England were poor on Thursday, and missed a hat full of chances yesterday I think that Southgate still has the team improving. Going far at next year's Euro's is a real possibility.

Kyle Walker's days are numbered. He was great in Russia last year but has regressed. Alexander-Arnold may not be as quick but he is a better defender, and is wonderful going forward. Wan-Bissaka is also very promising, but not as good an attacker as Alexander-Arnold.

If Stones plays every week next season he will return to his 2018 form, but Gomez looks the part.  

Central midfield is still a worry. Dier is limited. Henderson is all action but his style is not the Frenkie de Jong type international football needs. Winks? I've not seen enough of him to comment. Foden is talked about but will he get a game at City? Chelsea are looking for another new manager. Hopefully whoever it is will play Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi every week when they come back from their injuries.

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Just now, speeeeeeedie said:

 

Central midfield is still a worry. Dier is limited. Henderson is all action but his style is not the Frenkie de Jong type international football needs. Winks? I've not seen enough of him to comment. Foden is talked about but will he get a game at City? Chelsea are looking for another new manager. Hopefully whoever it is will play Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi every week when they come back from their injuries.

Winks might not be top drawer (he was one of the better players in a champs league final so he must be alright) but if we want to play out from the back then he's by far the best midfielder at picking the ball up from the centre backs, and thats what we failed to do on Thursday. The cb's got the ball down and looked up but the midfield didn't provide them with enough options. Though we looked a lot better when Henderson came on for Delph too, Delph is a handy player to have around but can't play cm against top level opponents. Dier is a very limited player, Rice looks like he has some potential, Loftus-Cheek needs to stay fit and start regularly but is talented, 

Going even further forward then Foden as one of the 3 is the hope, just got to hope he starts more games for city next year.

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Just now, BlackburnEnd75 said:

Winks might not be top drawer (he was one of the better players in a champs league final so he must be alright) but if we want to play out from the back then he's by far the best midfielder at picking the ball up from the centre backs, and thats what we failed to do on Thursday. The cb's got the ball down and looked up but the midfield didn't provide them with enough options. Though we looked a lot better when Henderson came on for Delph too, Delph is a handy player to have around but can't play cm against top level opponents. Dier is a very limited player, Rice looks like he has some potential, Loftus-Cheek needs to stay fit and start regularly but is talented, 

Going even further forward then Foden as one of the 3 is the hope, just got to hope he starts more games for city next year.

Henderson is still underrated even after captaining his team to the Champions League. Rice has impressed in the Prem but especially in that Holland game he went missing rather than as you say making an option to play the ball into midfield, Delph isnt good enough, Winks will be key as will Maddison having played under Rodgers at Leicester in a midfield 3 rather than as a 10. As soon as Henderson came on it was noticeable that he was available so much more often to take the ball on the half turn.

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