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This season I bought my first season ticket since our first season back in the Championship (what a shit show that season was by the way) 

The atmosphere is dire, a proper singing section with flags, banners etc teams across the league are doing so and it creates a much much better atmosphere. 

Food and drink prices (I know this practically beating a dead horse) but lower the price by even 50p or possibly price reductions for season ticket holders or even those with x amount of walk ons over the past two seasons. Gives incentive to show up. 

Similar situation with the £3 Waggott Tax if you have x amount of walk ons for the previous 2 season there's no Waggott Tax. 

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On ‎02‎/‎09‎/‎2019 at 10:45, TheKitGuy said:

This season I bought my first season ticket since our first season back in the Championship

Same here, even though I'm based in Hertfordshire these days (formerly Colne) and no doubt the train travel (Welwyn-London-Preston-Blackburn) plus hotel stays will get me bankrupt by the end of the season! :o

P.S.: my very first post, hello everyone.

G

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

Fantastic commitment! :brfc:

Ta! It will needless to say be a bit challenging (in terms of work arrangements) when it comes to midweek games, meaning that I will have to take the afternoon off and will either have to do exactly the same (morning off) the following day or get on an early (and indeed expensive) train down to London via Preston in order to be at work in Hatfield for 10AM at the very latest. By all means, 'interesting' times ahead! :)

G

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On 02/09/2019 at 10:45, TheKitGuy said:

This season I bought my first season ticket since our first season back in the Championship (what a shit show that season was by the way) 

 

1 hour ago, Gus® said:

Same here, even though I'm based in Hertfordshire these days

Just out of interest, what persuaded you two guys to return this year? Were you boycotting or just had other commitments ( or lost a bit of interest)?

Any other boycotters out there, are you determined to stick it out until Venky's leave or tempted to return because it's really not making any difference ?

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1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

 

Just out of interest, what persuaded you two guys to return this year? Were you boycotting or just had other commitments ( or lost a bit of interest)?

Boycotting above all (painful to say the least to see the way the club was/is being run...) but certainly other commitments (e.g. working away/overseas etc.) as well. That said, I went to the Cardiff match (by all means, not the most entertaining one to convince me to get back!) and realised that I was truly missing the routine of heading to Ewood, getting a pint before the game, the overall special feeling of being part of the ‘community’ regardless of the final score and also, why not, a good excuse to go back up North more often (I genuinely don’t like it down here and that’s nothing to do with all the Spurs fans in the office I can assure!). Again, big commitment (even my mates/Spurs fans suggested that it may perhaps be easier and possibly cheaper to attend all away games instead), but I’m genuinely happy to be back.

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20 hours ago, Gus® said:

Same here, even though I'm based in Hertfordshire these days (formerly Colne) and no doubt the train travel (Welwyn-London-Preston-Blackburn) plus hotel stays will get me bankrupt by the end of the season! :o

P.S.: my very first post, hello everyone.

G

Proper fan, well done. 

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Attendances getting critically low now in danger of dropping below 10k. There needs to be a massive overhaul in marketing.

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11,300 home fans today.

So crowds are a few hundred down on last season, which is purely down to us selling less season tickets.

Big failure on Waggott’s part who gave it plenty of big talk about selling 1,500 more, and we’ve actually sold less.

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26 minutes ago, Mr. E said:

Attendances getting critically low now in danger of dropping below 10k. There needs to be a massive overhaul in marketing.

No amount of marketing will bring in the crowds if the product on the pitch is mediocre.

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

11,300 home fans today.

So crowds are a few hundred down on last season, which is purely down to us selling less season tickets.

Big failure on Waggott’s part who gave it plenty of big talk about selling 1,500 more, and we’ve actually sold less.

Wonder what will happen next season when a price increase is introduced....

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54 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Wonder what will happen next season when a price increase is introduced....

It won't matter as all the Premier League glory hunters will be back ..

Right? 😉

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Preston now pulling more through the gates than us.The fourth lowest gate today was about 16,000.

Cheers Venkys the damage you have caused to our fan base may be terminal.

Edited by SIMON GARNERS 194

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Well that was a grim turnout yesterday. Doesn't look good.

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Once we get to September I stop worrying about it as there is nothing we can do.

As the season gets properly going they may rise a little for a game against decent opposition, a little more after Christmas if we sell our standard few hundred half STs, but generally the die is now cast until next season.

As our crowds are 80/90% made up of ST holders with very few walk ons, our gates only wax and wane on season ticket sales, we’ve lost a few hundred this summer, ergo crowds are a few hundred down.

For the second year in a row Waggott has missed his targets, indeed we aren’t even stagnating now, but going backwards. He now needs to reflect on why. He won’t, of course, as he still doesn’t understand the fanbase and catchment area one iota.

 

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Waggott is to blame for our low attendances.

Failed to capitalise on a huge feelgood factor - potentially even a turning point - and instead turned fans off.

Never rewards loyalty and doesn’t do enough to attract new fans. He will say he does (like sending a delegation to the Eid in the Park event) but as long as he thinks he has the right pricing structure, it’ll be the long-standing fans who, quite literally, pay for his failures.

I also think that the football offered by Mowbray isn’t inspiring and every game we are questioning the logic of his line-ups, game plan, and substitutions. Such is the mediocrity of the football that even winning doesn’t feel like it will bring in the 18,000 crowds that we should be able to expect. Not unless it ends in promotion...

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I think 18,000 is pushing it for us in this league, especially as we are forever an also ran, regular home attendees of 14,000 or so would be fine for now. We had many a PL home fan attendance of less than 18,000 in the 2000s.

But for us to have a 1,000 less home fans in the ground than was seen at Deepdale yesterday is a worry - though I believe anyone buying a ticket yesterday were guaranteed one for the City cup tie.

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The attendance yesterday in all honesty is what I would expect. I thought millwall would have brought maybe 1000 rather than 500 that they did though,so a better home turn out than I thought. Last year we had 13.300 at the same fixture but this was the 1st home game of the year, we had a similar crowd to yesterday when we played Reading at home (noted, this was on a Tuesday ) ; I would say we are inline for similar crowds to last season. Each week are crowd will be one of the lowest but how low depends on who is playing who and where. Also as mentioned about Preston have set a condition on the game yesterday for applications for the city game, maybe some city fans bought tickets.

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I don’t think 18,000 is pushing it but it will take more imagination than freezing earlier price rises.

We aren’t going to compete with City, or Liverpool, or United for quality and level of competition but we should be able win hearts and minds in terms of what it means to support your home town club and have the club mean something to the town (ideally without a disaster). How often do we hear stories of how people came to a game and were hooked - by the atmosphere, excitement on the pitch or even a particular player - but we have to get them into the ground first. Our most exciting player currently doesn’t get on the pitch until the last half hour.

I’m sure many of us have had the dreaded conversation with our young children about why they can’t support United or Liverpool, and calmly and sincerely explaining about how you don’t pick your team, it picks you. “You are from Blackburn which makes you a Rovers fan” (although birth certificates are probably being misplaced at the minute). Those conversations for 1st gen fans to 2nd gen fans will continue to be a long way off unless we get people down to Ewood in the first place.

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It is pushing it because that would mean we need to sell around 15/16,000 season tickets, and we will not be doing that until a) prices are dramatically reduced or b. we are promoted.

 

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Which is what I’m saying. 16,000 ST sales should not be beyond us.

But they are with Waggott’s current strategy.

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We would need a Huddersfield pricing strategy timed right, I.e on the back of a season of real promise or statement of intent in the transfer market.

Neither of those will be happening any time soon nor will the Hudds approach.

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

We would need a Huddersfield pricing strategy timed right, I.e on the back of a season of real promise or statement of intent in the transfer market.

Neither of those will be happening any time soon and neither will the Hudds approach.

I was reading Huddersfield have 18000 season ticket holders and only 2200 matchday tickets available.

They had sold out in early April.

 

We have 8600 season tickets and 20,000 available.

Ours went on sale in June.

 

Something is wrong.

Edited by OldEwoodBlue

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Stop blaming the strategy. The tickets aren’t that expensive. They’re competitively priced for the league we’re in. That’s not subjective. Are they more expensive than Preston. I doubt it. 

Could they be cheaper? Obviously. But where do you draw the line. Do you still want a competitive squad? 

I’m bored of the excuses. Fans can look to find reasons not to go, that’s their prerogative. There will always be a reason. The product on the pitch. The owners. Transfer activity. Not starting Rothwell. Mowbray. The shade of blue on the shirts.

The damage was done years ago. Our crowds have been static since 2013. I genuinely don’t believe that there’s any marketing strategy which will significantly change that. Promotion may be the only way.

 

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