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Birmingham charged us £15 the other week so if Waggott really does base his prices on what the other club charges our fans e.g. Leeds then what will his excuse be against Birmingham?

He just makes it up as he goes along. Some Rovers fans are still falling for it.

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Also £20 at WBA, yet we will be charging them £28 when they come here.

You can see people lapping it up over on social media about this myth with the Sheff Wed prices, "well its what they charge us so fair play".

No it isn't.

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Just now, MarkBRFC said:

Also category A are Wigan on a Monday night on Sky, and Stoke on a Wednesday night in February.

Crazy, crazy pricing.

Stoke. Bottom of the league. Freezing cold Feb night game. On the red button. If you get home from work and just fancy it, you will remember the Waggott Tax already kicked in. £31 before pie and bovril.

Certified Crazy indeed.

 

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The only credit I can give Rovers is that it isnt just us. Swansea away in December I expect will be £30 adults for a midweek game on TV. 

At least a day and a half off work. 5 hours each way travel and the best part of £100 for ticket, travel, programme and food/drink. Or sit at home for free on the red button. 

Takes some justifying a couple of weeks before Christmas. 

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Swanseas home attendances held firm last season despite relegation.  However they are a few thousand down most games this season now they've realised an imminent return isn't happening.

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2 hours ago, Hasta said:

Swanseas home attendances held firm last season despite relegation.  However they are a few thousand down most games this season now they've realised an imminent return isn't happening.

Most clubs do keep the bulk of their support on relegation,,, unless you are relegated in a state of civil war with public enemy number 1 STILL as manager...

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2 hours ago, Hasta said:

Swanseas home attendances held firm last season despite relegation.  However they are a few thousand down most games this season now they've realised an imminent return isn't happening.

They'll be down to 11-12,000 if they stay at this level long term. 

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22 hours ago, Stuart said:

Sarcasm?

Anywho... 22,000. That would be a fantastic total for a January fixture, and our highest Championship gate since Boro (Christmas 2014).

A £10 PNE ticket would I suspect bring about a similar gate to the Oxford game. (27k)

Conversely, if it did nothing for the gate then it would prove Waggott right and we could have no further complaint about £40 tickets. (Although we all know that the sole purpose of that was/is to sell bundles/STs).

I see no sarcasm in my response. I agreed it would be a good opportunity to finally settle the discussion on ticket incentives or pricing. Personally I believe the Oxford game was a recent unique set of circumstances. I don't believe £10 tickets will bring the crowds flocking back to Ewood. I've explained my reasoning too many times to make it worth repeating and I'm sure you will have read these.

I think a home gate for PNE at £10 would be 13/14000. Originally I didn't bother to explain my logic but here it is. I'm not sure of the accuracy of my numbers as I read so many different ones on here but I think the following is reasonable. We have +/- 8600 ST holders and 2-3000 walk ons which gives us the +/- 11500 home gate which seems to be fairly consistent this season. I feel a £10 offer would attract +/- 2500 which would put the home gate at 13/14000. If we are still 16th with one win in six it's hardly going to galvanise folk in to going to Ewood. PNE at home isn't a big deal for many. Yes, to you, to me it's a local derby but then we are there every week and see it differently.

Would PNE bring 8000? If they are still top of the table, playing well and a chance to put one over a local rival I think it's highly likely 8000 or so would turn up.

Yes, 22000 would be an excellent January gate but this was not your initial point nor is it the one I replied to. You had been referring to the Oxford game and suggesting PNE at £10 "and put the debate to bed for once and all" which implies, for me, you think there would be a very significant increase in home attendance. I don't, simple as that.

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12 minutes ago, Paul said:

I see no sarcasm in my response. I agreed it would be a good opportunity to finally settle the discussion on ticket incentives or pricing. Personally I believe the Oxford game was a recent unique set of circumstances. I don't believe £10 tickets will bring the crowds flocking back to Ewood. I've explained my reasoning too many times to make it worth repeating and I'm sure you will have read these.

I think a home gate for PNE at £10 would be 13/14000. Originally I didn't bother to explain my logic but here it is. I'm not sure of the accuracy of my numbers as I read so many different ones on here but I think the following is reasonable. We have +/- 8600 ST holders and 2-3000 walk ons which gives us the +/- 11500 home gate which seems to be fairly consistent this season. I feel a £10 offer would attract +/- 2500 which would put the home gate at 13/14000. If we are still 16th with one win in six it's hardly going to galvanise folk in to going to Ewood. PNE at home isn't a big deal for many. Yes, to you, to me it's a local derby but then we are there every week and see it differently.

Would PNE bring 8000? If they are still top of the table, playing well and a chance to put one over a local rival I think it's highly likely 8000 or so would turn up.

Yes, 22000 would be an excellent January gate but this was not your initial point nor is it the one I replied to. You had been referring to the Oxford game and suggesting PNE at £10 "and put the debate to bed for once and all" which implies, for me, you think there would be a very significant increase in home attendance. I don't, simple as that.

Fair enough.

IMHO, at £10 PNE would definitely sell out ANY allocation.

With large numbers of away fans, home fans would respond.

It would easily be our biggest gate of the season.

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38 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Fair enough.

IMHO, at £10 PNE would definitely sell out ANY allocation.

With large numbers of away fans, home fans would respond.

It would easily be our biggest gate of the season.

Let's hope the club take the initiative and we find out.

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40 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Fair enough.

IMHO, at £10 PNE would definitely sell out ANY allocation.

With large numbers of away fans, home fans would respond.

It would easily be our biggest gate of the season.

It would depend on where we where. If mowbray is still here, with his team still looking weak as piss, i doubt wed sell more than 16-18k home tickets.

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1 hour ago, AAK said:

It would depend on where we where. If mowbray is still here, with his team still looking weak as piss, i doubt wed sell more than 16-18k home tickets.

This is it. It doesn’t matter what anyone on here or Tesco Steve cooks up to solve the dwindling gates and interest, it’s all being massively let down by the drivel on the pitch. In fact, if we had a decent team with forward thinking exciting management the support is there and you wouldn’t need to give it away

Edited by Sparks Rover

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They'll never ever discount the Preston game to the tune of a tenner they don't want the hassle. I don't see why they couldn't come up with some initiative to get a few more home fans on though it's the kind of game that would drag a few back.

They'll prefer to keep the game cat A and the gate around 20k knowing they'll sell out this season it's just too easy an opportunity to fleece away fans and home hardcore again. The acid test will be the kick off time.

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Just now, tomphil said:

They'll never ever discount the Preston game to the tune of a tenner they don't want the hassle. I don't see why they couldn't come up with some initiative to get a few more home fans on though it's the kind of game that would drag a few back.

They'll prefer to keep the game cat A and the gate around 20k knowing they'll sell out this season it's just too easy an opportunity to fleece away fans and home hardcore again. The acid test will be the kick off time.

Aye they'll be having palpitations as it is at the prospect of nearly 20,000 turning up. Expect a story in the Telegraph offering advice on what to do on the big day etc. Any more than that an Caley and co. will need time off with stress.

Absolutely no appetite at Ewood even from the bean counters to see 25,000+ on or even try and get to it. If PNE were to bring 7000 that would mean we'd need to get an extra 5000 or so home fans on. A challenge but priced well and promoted as Derby day and it is something to aim for and would be a brilliant atmosphere if we got close.

They know PNE will bring a minimum of 5000 for the annual family day out whatever the price so maximising income from those will be the priority. Not really bothered about filling the home ends. A extra few thousand on the home gate would require effort, cheaper tickets and aggravation for those who just don't want it.

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1 minute ago, JHRover said:

Aye they'll be having palpitations as it is at the prospect of nearly 20,000 turning up. Expect a story in the Telegraph offering advice on what to do on the big day etc. Any more than that an Caley and co. will need time off with stress.

Absolutely no appetite at Ewood even from the bean counters to see 25,000+ on or even try and get to it. If PNE were to bring 7000 that would mean we'd need to get an extra 5000 or so home fans on. A challenge but priced well and promoted as Derby day and it is something to aim for and would be a brilliant atmosphere if we got close.

They know PNE will bring a minimum of 5000 for the annual family day out whatever the price so maximising income from those will be the priority. Not really bothered about filling the home ends. A extra few thousand on the home gate would require effort, cheaper tickets and aggravation for those who just don't want it.

What does Caley do for his salary, apart from netting off seats?

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21 hours ago, MCMC1875 said:

What does Caley do for his salary, apart from netting off seats?

Asks for swathes of the Stadium to be closed off... #EasyDayAtTheOffice

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23 hours ago, MCMC1875 said:

What does Caley do for his salary, apart from netting off seats?

Beg the hierarchy to switch kick off times on behalf of his mates in blue.

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Wigan (h) Mon 23 Dec (for Sky) Cat A. Seems like those who decided to announce the match price categories before the season forgot about televised games. Can't wait to see this crowd.

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A normal club would forget about that, as Wigan ain’t fetching folk at £28 for a Sky game.

’Christmas Cracker’ or some other PR guff. £15 anywhere in the ground. Lot of exiled Lancastrians will be arriving back home, lot of people take Christmas Eve off, so a chance of a ‘decent’ crowd... so no chance.

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Wigan are running a promotion for their Boxing Day game v Derby. Adult tickets anywhere in the ground £10, u18s £5 and u12s £2. Available now 6 weeks before the game. 

Promoting it to try and get as many in the ground as possible.

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Won’t happen here because Waggott’s data from the Rochdale game two years ago will show a couple of thousand extra walk ons, so he’ll be looking to milk those with Cat A prices.

The club has given up on any strategic thinking.

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55 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Won’t happen here because Waggott’s data from the Rochdale game two years ago will show a couple of thousand extra walk ons, so he’ll be looking to milk those with Cat A prices.

The club has given up on any strategic thinking.

That type of thing probably added weight to the dearer tickets when the firework display was on. A quick glance at last time and an increase in footfall for a random game in the home sections particularly kids.  Another fleecing opportunity that will backfire in the long run when people turn their noses up at it next season.

Everything is done by spreadsheet though these days including the team i think.

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3 hours ago, JHRover said:

Wigan are running a promotion for their Boxing Day game v Derby. Adult tickets anywhere in the ground £10, u18s £5 and u12s £2. Available now 6 weeks before the game. 

Promoting it to try and get as many in the ground as possible.

Wigan are selling tickets for all games up to the end of January.

Huddersfield and Preston are selling tickets for games into January.

We are only selling November games.

 

Maybe this is because we have another 3 game ticket coming out but whether or not that is the case, why not have them on sale now? 

 

Huddersfield half season tickets go on sale tomorrow. You can choose which game it starts from and just pay the appropriate price. So it can start any time between 15 games and 11 games.

 

Clubs of a similar size to us are on the front foot making it flexible for fans to attend. We will bring ours out last minute when xmas presents are bought and fans are skint.

 

We are not doing all we can. Far from it. We are doing almost nothing.

 

Tomorrow is the pre-meet to set the agenda for next fans forum meeting on the 18th.

I don't think we give a shit about single use plastic and gluten free pies.

 

Why are tickets not on sale yet as with other clubs, to maximise Xmas spend ?

How many 3 match tickets were sold ?

Why are Xmas period games not on sale yet ?

Where are you up to with the matchday buses from strategic locations ?

What about working with the council to re-open the car parks at Ewood ?

Are we actively having a plan for safe standing area next season ? What is the process to make it a reality ?

Is the manager's position being reviewed and monitored by the owners ? Are there any targets set because we are clearly worse than last season and playing very badly.

Who is responsible for this process ? Steve or Suhail or Balaji ?

What task force does the club have in place or planned for addressing the very serious issue of 20,000 empty seats, dire matchday atmosphere and repeated failure to reach sales targets?

What was the outcome of the data collected in the recent survey?

 

Just a small list of very real and important topics I hope to see addressed with the club when the minutes come out. Not at all interested if Bennett washes his water bottle and re-uses it next week.

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All well and good that OEB, but I am interested to know if the club shop will FINALLY have possession of some Harry Chapman photographs.

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