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8 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Despite their wealth, this will continue while Venky's are here. Managers, players, CEOs come and go. The only people who really care are the fans.

While the club is in a 'reasonable' position in the league people will put up with the situation but what we really need is positive action to persuade the owners to sell up.

I know the arguments - Who would buy the club with the debt? we wouldn't get anyone better, Venky's pay the bills -  I know I know, but as TBTF says the club is dying a slow death - look at the demographic of supporters at Ewood - where's the next generation of supporters coming from ?  Action required!

 

The club needs owners with a better understanding of how a successful club would be run - no doubt - but what "positive action" to persuade Venkys to move on have you identified ? I can't think of any.

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4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The club needs owners with a better understanding of how a successful club would be run - no doubt - but what "positive action" to persuade Venkys to move on have you identified ? I can't think of any.

Everybody boycott the next supporters consultation meeting unless the owners send a creditable representative to listen to our concerns. Attempt to create some meaningful communiction. If they refuse then more fans will realise they just don't care.

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If waggot had ewt about him, like some sense maybe, then hed look at us now, realise the squads at bare bones, but still within contention, maybe think "these lads could do with a big backing" and make the next two home games £22 for both, and make it a 'buy one get one free, you are rovers, we need you'. 

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Tickets are already on sale for the next two, so won’t happen.


Make West Brom a tenner on Easter Monday. If we are still in contention we’ll sell shed loads, and as they are doing well they’ll probably fill the Darwen End instead of their usual 1500/2000.

Big crowd, big occasion.

(It won’t happen as Waggott will want £30 off a potential  2/3000 travelling support)

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57 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Tickets are already on sale for the next two, so won’t happen.


Make West Brom a tenner on Easter Monday. If we are still in contention we’ll sell shed loads, and as they are doing well they’ll probably fill the Darwen End instead of their usual 1500/2000.

Big crowd, big occasion.

(It won’t happen as Waggott will want £30 off a potential  2/3000 travelling support)

I know mate. Exactly the issue, he doesnt forsee these opportunities.

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with us being so close to the playoffs now, fans need to show their support. 

I think @SIMON GARNERS 194's idea is a good one but Rovers wont want to devalued their new 6 games offer which is good offer also considering who we are playing and our current league position 

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Floating fans don’t ‘need’ to do anything.

The hardcore 12,000 are already there. The rest will come if they fancy it. 8th in the second division isn’t going to get that many more than usual forking out nearly £30 for a Jack Walker ticket or a mini season ticket (the Big 6).

Yes, that’s hard for fans like me and you to understand because we are passionate fans that wouldn’t dream of not being there, ‘floating fans’ are just that and don’t have the same motivation to be there every week.

Even in 2001 when we had a bigger core support than now, the club still offered two separate games for £5 in the promotion run in (Huddersfield and Sheff United).

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4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Floating fans don’t ‘need’ to do anything.

The hardcore 12,000 are already there. The rest will come if they fancy it. 8th in the second division isn’t going to get that many more than usual forking out nearly £30 for a Jack Walker ticket or a mini season ticket (the Big 6).

If they fancy it? A good chance of playoffs. 

The 6 game offer is a good offer. 

5 out of 6 games are 3pm kick off time. A big plus for certain fans who play football Saturday morning don't have rush around to get a game. 

Waggott explained the process of ticket offers at Supporter consultation meeting. He has targets to meet in terms of revenue and offers have to be sign off. 

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Yes if they fancy it. If they fancied it every week they’d have a season ticket. 

The Big 6 is a quarter season ticket and priced as such, so will sell in the hundreds, like half STs do. Floating fans don’t fork out £100-£150 in one go generally. They pick a game intermittently. But a few hundred is ok, better than nothing, but it won’t make much of a dent to those empty seats.

I would expect an offer of some sort in the run in, like the last game if there’s something riding on it. This would follow the precedent of Villa (£10 for the last home game) in the relegation season and Oxford. As it is those one off games that will see tickets sell in big numbers - which will provide the big crowd we need to help us potentially get over the line.

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I'd be interested to see how a fiver game went down at Ewood. 

Tbh I spoke to a lot of their fans yesterday and they were pretty negative about it, saying all the plastics came for that game.  It did start emptying second half and pretty much a sea of red by the end.

Regardless of that though, we need to tap into the plastics...   

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Of course we do. Any hardcore fan that would rather see nearly 20,000 empty seats just so they can take some weird moral high ground is of a totally different mindset than me...

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4 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

I'd be interested to see how a fiver game went down at Ewood. 

Tbh I spoke to a lot of their fans yesterday and they were pretty negative about it, saying all the plastics came for that game.  It did start emptying second half and pretty much a sea of red by the end.

Regardless of that though, we need to tap into the plastics...   

I think most are against it because they always lose when they do 5 quid games - they call it a bit of a curse. 

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Just now, JacknOry said:

I think most are against it because they always lose when they do 5 quid games - they call it a bit of a curse. 

Aye true, maybe a bit of the old stage fright 

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

Yes if they fancy it. If they fancied it every week they’d have a season ticket. 

The Big 6 is a quarter season ticket and priced as such, so will sell in the hundreds, like half STs do. Floating fans don’t fork out £100-£150 in one go generally. But a few hundred is ok, better than nothing, but it won’t make much of a dent to those empty seats.

I would expect an offer of some sort in the run in, like Villa (£10 for the last home game) in the relegation season.

Most people don't have 100 pounds but I'm not sure if you set direct debit up to pay 2 or 3 months. I don't know. 

Maybe last game against Reading 

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No DDs for the offer that I can see.

Yes if we are in the mix I would expect Reading to be the one.

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Another thing which doesn’t help RE: people arriving early is the bloody music.

Its a small thing but I’ve stopped going into the stadium earlier (and potentially buying more food and drink) because for the last four years it’s been the same playlist in the build up to the game.

Its genuinely depressing listening to the same stuff sometimes twice a week, every other week. Small thing but it’s something which could help slightly and wouldn’t cost much at all to implement...

 

**My 2p is that the Big 6 ticket is a good idea. 

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4 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Another thing which doesn’t help RE: people arriving early is the bloody music.

I arrive early 2pm in the stadium. But I don't listen the music just talk to the people I go with. 

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All part of a stripped back operation, I’m afraid.

Up to about 2016 we had a radio station and an in house TV station. So pre-game there was a variety to what you saw/heard (though Radio Rovers did decline in quality over the years).

Now you have Neil Yardley on the pitch reading the teams out, then he’s charging up to the gantry for the first half ifollow commentary, then he’s on the pitch at half time doing the half time raffles, then he’s back to the gantry for the second half.

Add it to a shut town centre club shop, a shut Blues Bar, a filthy ground, crap disabled facilities, shoddy programme, piss poor catering that can’t even compare to Accy Stanley’s offering and all the rest of it. It’s a skeleton operation, but remember, they ‘never refuse to sign a cheque’.

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1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

All part of a stripped back operation, I’m afraid.

A decade ago we had a radio station and an in house TV station. So pre-game there was a variety to what you saw/heard (though Radio Rovers did decline in quality over the years).

Now you have Neil Yardley on the pitch reading the teams out, then he’s charging up to the gantry for the first half ifollow commentary, then he’s on the pitch at half time doing the half time raffles, then he’s back to the gantry for the second half.

Add it to a shut town centre club shop, a shut Blues Bar, a filthy ground, and all the rest of it. It’s a skeleton operation, but remember they never ‘refuse to sign a cheque’.

We’re a championship team, how on earth can we justify an in-house TV station? Do you want our debt to increase even higher? Would you seriously have kept those things running if you were in charge? Be reasonable.

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I’m being generous calling it a ‘TV station’. It was on the big screen and concourse teles for a couple of hours. It cost feck all. It wasn’t MUTV!

It was a few videos/interviews from the week and highlights from the game.

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5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

All part of a stripped back operation, I’m afraid.

A decade ago we had a radio station and an in house TV station. So pre-game there was a variety to what you saw/heard (though Radio Rovers did decline in quality over the years).

Now you have Neil Yardley on the pitch reading the teams out, then he’s charging up to the gantry for the first half ifollow commentary, then he’s on the pitch at half time doing the half time raffles, then he’s back to the gantry for the second half.

Add it to a shut town centre club shop, a shut Blues Bar, a filthy ground, crap disabled facilities, piss poor catering that can’t even compare to Accy Stanley’s offering and all the rest of it. It’s a skeleton operation, but remember, they ‘never refuse to sign a cheque’.

That bottom paragraph is a classic. It’s the one sentence that drives me insane. No business owner should ever get credit for not refusing to sign a cheque, it’s their responsibility. They are putting a service on for us and it should be worthy of the entry fee. 
 

Currently it isn’t. So all of this not refusing to sign off cheques is shite - you can fix the ground, get decent pies in and put on a decent show without worrying about FFP. 

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1 hour ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

We’re a championship team, how on earth can we justify an in-house TV station? Do you want our debt to increase even higher? Would you seriously have kept those things running if you were in charge? Be reasonable.

Like the debt was spiralling out of control because of the tv station that was already there being run mostly by people who are still there.

Don't talk so much pap.

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4 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

We’re a championship team, how on earth can we justify an in-house TV station? Do you want our debt to increase even higher? Would you seriously have kept those things running if you were in charge? Be reasonable.

Nearly every team in this division seems to have one. Especially teams in the PL2, almost every youth side we face has live streaming of the youth games on YouTube under a "Rovers TV" banner.

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5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I arrive early 2pm in the stadium. But I don't listen the music just talk to the people I go with. 

Why comment then?

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