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1 hour ago, 47er said:

We need a song that's special to us and can be sung by everyone. "Blue Moon" "Forever Blowing Bubbles" "You'll Never Walk Alone" etc.

Can't think of one, mind! :(

 

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6 hours ago, 47er said:

We need a song that's special to us and can be sung by everyone. "Blue Moon" "Forever Blowing Bubbles" "You'll Never Walk Alone" etc.

Can't think of one, mind! :(

A Day In The Life

”I read the news today oh boy

About a local man who made the grade

Thought big in 1991

While everybody laughed

King Kenny made us proud”

 

“I read the news today oh boy

The Premier League In Blackburn Lancashire

And Shearer scored so many goals

We got to count them all

Now we know how many goals it takes to win the Premier League

I’d love to tuuuuuuurn baaaaaaack tiiiiiime...

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

Rovers Rovers Rovers...”

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9 hours ago, 47er said:

We need a song that's special to us and can be sung by everyone. "Blue Moon" "Forever Blowing Bubbles" "You'll Never Walk Alone" etc.

Can't think of one, mind! :(

I prefer it when we just copy whatever song Man Utd fans are singing at the time.

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9 hours ago, 47er said:

We need a song that's special to us and can be sung by everyone. "Blue Moon" "Forever Blowing Bubbles" "You'll Never Walk Alone" etc.

Can't think of one, mind! :(

How about heal the world by Michael Jackson. Fits perfectly with Tony's contract policy

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I should have known better!

Nice thought Stuart, the song does have a Blackburn link after all.

But many of the songs fans have adapted for their club have no obvious affinity to the club at all. "You'll never walk alone" has because it was a big hit for a Liverpool group, and  "Blue Moon" because City play in blue. Furthermore the words haven't been changed at all in most cases, the fans just adopt them--Hi Ho Silver Lining, I'm forever Blowing Bubbles eg. So what's special to us? No Nay Never I suppose. 

 

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Just now, 47er said:

I should have known better!

Nice thought Stuart, the song does have a Blackburn link after all.

But many of the songs fans have adapted for their club have no obvious affinity to the club at all. "You'll never walk alone" has because it was a big hit for a Liverpool group, and  "Blue Moon" because City play in blue. Furthermore the words haven't been changed at all in most cases, the fans just adopt them--Hi Ho Silver Lining, I'm forever Blowing Bubbles eg. So what's special to us? No Nay Never I suppose. 

 

It's a generational thing probably but I always associate the boys are back in town by thin Lizzy with rovers as that is what the players used to come out to when I was a kid. Everytime I hear it is automatically think of rovers walking on to the pitch. 

I appreciate I'm in the minority

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Went on Charlton’s website to see how many tickets they got for Wembley (the life I lead ay!)

I noticed they do a Valley Express to every home game. They do 8 routes (just two are pasted below).

They generally get similar gates to us, yet realise that their particular neck of the woods has changed demographically, with much of their fanbase now outside of south east London and in Kent and Sussex - with coaches having pick ups throughout.

Rovers need to wake up to where more and more of our fanbase reside - and it isn’t within the borders of Blackburn.

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5 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Went on Charlton’s website to see how many tickets they got for Wembley (the life I lead ay!)

I noticed they do a Valley Express to every home game. They do 8 routes (just two are pasted below).

They generally get similar gates to us, yet realise that their particular neck of the woods has changed demographically, with much of their fanbase now outside of south east London and in Kent and Sussex - with coaches having pick ups throughout.

Rovers need to wake up to where more and more of our fanbase reside - and it isn’t within the borders of Blackburn.

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Nothing new- Charlton were doing this in the 1980s when I lived in Chislehurst which was border between Palace and Charlton support. 

Charlton always emphasised being a Kentish team traditionally being slightly further away from central London than Millwall and West Ham. 

Other than Gillingham which is very much the club of the Medway towns they have traditionally drawn support from Kent and East Sussex.

 

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3 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

And we now draw our support wider than BB1 and BB2 than we ever have previously. 

 

Not true. I wandered round the home coach park during our Premier League winning season and  there was even a Stroud Valleys Rovers supporters coach up from Gloucestershire. Buses from North Wales, Cumbria and various parts of Yorkshire as well as closer to home. Counted 29 full sized coaches...

It is only 8 years since our average home attendance was 25,000 (exactly).

 

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*Sigh*. OK, 90s aside, as we won’t be filling coaches from Stroud anytime soon.

Im taking about our core, still extant support, the support that was largely concentrated in the town of Blackburn.

A decent percentage of that core is now in Chorley borough, South Ribble, Ribble Valley, Preston and so on.

Yes, we’ve always had support in those areas, but due to demographic change in Blackburn, it is becoming an ever larger percentage.

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For  the record our last two average attendances have been:

2018/19 - 14,552 which is 17th sandwiched between Bolton and Preston. Bolton is divided by 22 and would almost certainly been behind us had they played Brentford.  

2017/18 - 12,173 obviously significantly boosted by the Oxford game 

 

In the Championship last season 12 clubs averaged gates over 20,000. 

If you go back  to comments at the season start I believe Steve Waggott said the budget was for an average gate of 14,500 which we hit with more home supporters and less away supporters than forecast.

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Just now, philipl said:

For  the record our last two average attendances have been:

2018/19 - 14,552 which is 17th sandwiched between Bolton and Preston. Bolton is divided by 22 and would almost certainly been behind us had they played Brentford.  

2017/18 - 12,173 obviously significantly boosted by the Oxford game 

 

In the Championship last season 12 clubs averaged gates over 20,000. 

If you go back  to comments at the season start I believe Steve Waggott said the budget was for an average gate of 14,500 which we hit with more home supporters and less away supporters than forecast.

I thought Waggott said 16k to break even? 

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Considering we had gone down to 8,000 season ticket holders under Coyle. This season, for a mid table campaign, the crowds were fine and a good recovery from that clownshoe's time.

But now it's time to push on. We won't see dramatic increases in this league but we certainly can add to the season ticket holder base.

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Just now, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Only success on the pitch will bring fans back,it's the same at most Clubs in a similar position..there is no use in keep fretting about it.

Fundamentally, that’s true. But it still wouldn’t kill the powers that be to improve the match day experience.

When this is inferior to that at Accy Stanley, questions need to be asked.

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If the club want to increase season tickets sales and get increased numbers into ewood, how about they charge the current price for season tickets at the current number sold, if the overall number increases reduce the price of the season tickets (existing/early purchasers could get the amount back on their rovers card), and increase single match ticket prices. Would give existing season ticket holders an incentive to persuade friends to buy  a season ticket.  Away fans would have to pay more as well for tickets. It could  possibly lead to more fans at every game, be cheaper for season ticket holders and increase revenue for the club.

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8 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Fundamentally, that’s true. But it still wouldn’t kill the powers that be to improve the match day experience.

When this is inferior to that at Accy Stanley, questions need to be asked.

Surely winning more games is the best, and probably only, way to improve the matchday experience. Success on the pitch is the only way forward.

I've never been to Stanley but I'm struggling to understand how the matchday experience at the Crown with an average gate of 2827, 24th in League One, watching the team which finished 14th is better than a visit to Ewood Park???

If it's so good why would less than 3,000 bother to go?? If people want a better matchday experience the answer is simple..........

Edited by Paul

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Just now, 47er said:

But that "less than 3000" used to be less than 1200.

I woudnt get carried away with Stanleys "average" home gate figure .When away teams are filling half the ground for Stanley that figure is certainly being bloated. A more accurate figure would simply be how many actual home fans do they attract.

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7 hours ago, Paul said:

Surely winning more games is the best, and probably only, way to improve the matchday experience. Success on the pitch is the only way forward.

I've never been to Stanley but I'm struggling to understand how the matchday experience at the Crown with an average gate of 2827, 24th in League One, watching the team which finished 14th is better than a visit to Ewood Park???

If it's so good why would less than 3,000 bother to go?? If people want a better matchday experience the answer is simple..........

You’re missing the point. If we could be doing things better, we should be aiming to. 

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The independent buses from pubs in Darwen illustrate the point in question. I know for a fact that if the facility wasn’t there, a number of people wouldn’t bother going to Ewood. It would be worthwhile trialling something similar from Chorley, Clitheroe, Accrington etc to see how it went. 

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Just now, darrenrover said:

The independent buses from pubs in Darwen illustrate the point in question. I know for a fact that if the facility wasn’t there, a number of people wouldn’t bother going to Ewood. It would be worthwhile trialling something similar from Chorley, Clitheroe, Accrington etc to see how it went. 

If a bus from Chorley picked up en route and received the same priority as away support coaches I would catch that as opposed to driving. Parking is £200 per season. So from my perspective only something around £5/person would be acceptable -we have 2/3 in the car.

Priority over cars leaving the car parks would be essential as without this there is no tangible benefit.

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https://www.pnefc.net/news/2017/september/matchday-shuttle-bus-services-confirmed/

Have a read through this and ask yourself why Rovers don't have a similar facility in place for these areas/Hyndburn/Ribble Valley.

Bone idleness and penny pinching would be my guess. Probably saves a few bob and makes life easier but long term it will only do one thing.

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20 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

You’re missing the point. If we could be doing things better, we should be aiming to. 

I don't think so. I'm watching a decent team, managed by a fundamentally decent person, possible top six campaign in 2019/20 in a PL standard ground (yes it needs some attention), parking is OK, good seats, reasonable coffee on the odd occasion I drink it.

What's not to like? What else could the club offer? Better atmosphere? Yes, but that's the fans not the club. The one thing I'd like changed is holding the car parks after the game, which is probably a police and not club issue.

All for £15/match

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