tomphil Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, booth said: "Super Atko" was a nickname forged from sarcasm. Never knew him Super as Atko until his midfield conversion and probably not even till long after that when King Kenny got the best out of him. I always thought his name was F###in Hell Atkins not Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AllRoverAsia Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Hasta said: It's plausible that someone actually could have spiked Steve Kean's drink. Someone did piss in his drink, alledgedly, but not sure if that qualifies as "spiking" or just a job well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The current home kit is the worst in our history and came about because Waggott and Commercial messed up shirt sponsorship for this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Commondore said: *As an overseas fan, I don't feel any particular way about Burnley. I do sympathize with the extra joy or gloom it brings other supporters when we win or lose against them, but for me personally they're just another team. *Tom Cairney was never that good. *The fact that our current team sports four players straight from the academy that have proven to be dependable or better at Championship level has been supremely underrated. HOW DARE YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said: Tom Cairney was never that good. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Tom Cairney was good but he was lazy so his boss got it right preferring to build his side around the dynamic Jason Lowe....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_big_nose Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Cairneys a very good player, as obviously is King - as can be seen from their subsequent careers. With the benefit of hindsight there's a strong argument to say we should have sold Rhodes and played King and Gestede up front, and held onto Cairney and played him in the middle. But that's hindsight for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted February 5, 2019 Backroom Share Posted February 5, 2019 Cairney is an excellent player at Championship level - when used in the right position. I'm not convinced he has the ability to step up to the PL though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Brereton looks a much better all round footballer than Nuttall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mellor Rover said: Brereton looks a much better all round footballer than Nuttall. I have 2 arthritic knees, a bad back and stopped playing 30 years ago, and I'm still a better footballer than Nuttall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Kalanic was very unlucky not to score more, and was actually a decent player. Edited February 5, 2019 by booth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog of the rovers Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Andy Todd. Really didn't take to him. Getting stupidly sent off against Birmingham and the blatant thuggish elbow on van Persie, crossed the line too many times in his football career (IMHO) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We should have stuck with Kean as we were at the top of the league when he left. (Disclaimer: definitely not my view, but a view heard from where I sat in the Riverside at the time) And... Why is Dalglish giving away our best player for this Shearer lad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Some fans are using ticket prices as an excuse to not attend games, but they wouldn't attend anyway. If we supported Kean, we would not have gone down. The atmosphere from the crowd impacted on the players performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted February 5, 2019 Backroom Share Posted February 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: If we supported Kean, we would not have gone down. The atmosphere from the crowd impacted on the players performance I always find this one especially funny, as some of our best results under Kean (Arsenal and Swansea come to mind) came on big protest days. Meanwhile when the protests were stopped and a truce was called with the club during early-mid December 2011, and fans banded together to support the club and temporarily halt protesting inside the stadium, we got limp performances and defeats against Sunderland, WBA and Bolton - in fact our performance against Bolton was so bad that it nearly incited a riot. One of the darkest days of that time period. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Some fans are using ticket prices as an excuse to not attend games, but they wouldn't attend anyway. If we supported Kean, we would not have gone down. The atmosphere from the crowd impacted on the players performance Tin hats in the post and be with you soon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, DE. said: I always find this one especially funny, as some of our best results under Kean (Arsenal and Swansea come to mind) came on big protest days. Meanwhile when the protests were stopped and a truce was called with the club during early-mid December 2011, and fans banded together to support the club and temporarily halt protesting inside the stadium, we got limp performances and defeats against Sunderland, WBA and Bolton - in fact our performance against Bolton was so bad that it nearly incited a riot. One of the darkest days of that time period. Ya , all true, but I do think the atmosphere was so bad that it had an effect on the players. Even insofar as them wanting out of the club. Easier said than done not to have an atmosphere while that idiot sat in the dug out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Ok ,here is one to redeem myself All things considered, Kean got off lightly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted February 5, 2019 Backroom Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: Ya , all true, but I do think the atmosphere was so bad that it had an effect on the players. Even insofar as them wanting out of the club. Easier said than done not to have an atmosphere while that idiot sat in the dug out though. I honestly don't think it had any effect at all. We were crap under Kean long before things got really bad, we were crap when things were really bad, and we were crap for some time afterwards too. The club had been mismanaged to a point where the players had become unprofessional and disillusioned. Some of our better players (eg. Salgado) were frozen out, whilst butt kissers had preferential treatment. In reality, if the atmosphere at Ewood was the big problem we would have seen an improvement in performances and results on the road. Instead we won 6 at home and only 2 times away, which suggests it wasn't the atmosphere at Ewood that was the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, DE. said: I honestly don't think it had any effect at all. We were crap under Kean long before things got really bad, we were crap when things were really bad, and we were crap for some time afterwards too. The club had been mismanaged to a point where the players had become unprofessional and disillusioned. Some of our better players (eg. Salgado) were frozen out, whilst butt kissers had preferential treatment. In reality, if the atmosphere at Ewood was the big problem we would have seen an improvement in performances and results on the road. Instead we won 6 at home and only 2 times away, which suggests it wasn't the atmosphere at Ewood that was the problem. That's told me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Venkhater Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Here's a good one... The Jack Walker takeover enabled the Venky's nightmare to take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted February 5, 2019 Backroom Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, Bigdoggsteel said: That's told me then Any blame towards the fans was misguided, imo. It didn't take a genius to see the writing was on the wall with Kean in charge. No amount of applause or positive chanting was going to make up for the manager's total lack of tactical awareness or the deficit in quality across the team which got worse and worse as Kean's tenure went on. Also worth remembering we had the ultimate insult of Kean being given a new and improved contract in November 2011 despite his horrific performance as manager, something he brazenly lied about literally days before it was announced. The people blaming the supporters for our position tended to be those who had mistakenly backed Kean to be some kind of managerial mastermind, and who had celebrated his appointment alongside the sacking of Allardyce. Much like with Ipswich fans and Mick McCarthy, they were unable to admit to their error and so deflected blame everywhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Toronto Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Here's a good one... The Jack Walker takeover enabled the Venky's nightmare to take place. Unquestionably. By taking ownership away from a mass of (relatively) impoverished local fans into the hands of one very rich tax exiled fan, plus running the club at enormous losses, the only possible future buyer was a very rich entity. Given that no local fan was remotely as rich as Jack, it was inevitable the buyer would be a non-local non-fan. Jack pursued his and our dream, but it resulted in our nightmare. Icarus flying too close to the sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC4LAB Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The three nil drubbing at Wigan under Paul Ince was my worse ever Rovers match.more than any Kean one...especially having pedalled there on my bike.....Check this out but when we went down, we were still feeding the Yak and were top half highest scorers in the league.maybe even as high as 8th .Shame we let two and three times as many in ...Letting Neilson go.... think it was QPR... ..... the end .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverthechimp Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Alan Shearer is not a nice bloke and hates being reminded that he won the league at Rovers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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