Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Ossydave]

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

See that Man Ure are being linked in the Sunday Press with a £50 move for Mcginn who we were linked with 12 months ago before TM no doubt told him (like Bauer) that he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter and he'd have to dislodge the mighty Corry and Richie. You couldn't make it up.

As far as the rumours concerning us go I'd be gutted if Raya was sold, think he'll turn out to be a top keeper and if he goes he'll no doubt be replaced by an "experienced" keeper like Steele who let's every shot the opposition take in.

I'll also be disappointed if Gallagher comes in. He'll never be better than average imo and I can't for the life of me understand why we want to reunite the strike force that took us down, especially seeing as Graham is now three years older and has one foot planted firmly in the knackers  yard.

I'd rather stick with Brereton (in the correct position) than Gallagher. I think Brereton has raw potential, for me Gallagher doesn't have much about him at all. What you see is what you get with him. Lots of endeavour but not much quality.

What's happened to all the bold talk about scouring Europe for players? Seems we can't sign anyone unless they've played for us before (Hanley, Gallagher) or played for Boro (Downing) plus all the others we've been linked with.

The McGinn story is an Alan Nixon exclusive, you do realise that?

If United sign him for 50m it'd be one of the most ridiculous deals in transfer history and show how far they've fallen.

[philipl]

44 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Firstly I have to point out that I respect others opinions on this forum and I have not despite some suggestion slated members off on a persistent basis.

Secondly, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes at Ewood than anyone on here will ever know and on that basis TM and co SHOULD be given due credit and that includes Waggott who IMo has done ever so well after what’s gone before in the past 8 years or so.

Thirdly, it’s all fair and well being critical however some of it borders on rancid persistent rubbish and speculation, it’s this bit that bores the pants off readers on this forum and when one highlights this they are instantly set about!

Fourthly, discussion is all fair and well, but for it to be a progressive conversation or exchange of views, there has to be some element or basis of truth BUtT the fact remains, in particular to this thread, there hasn’t been one shred of evidence to back up the speculative theories!

There have been some wonderful contributors in these forums over the year but who no longer participate and that’s a shame. Whether they are barred, banned, suspended or whatever, the fact remains they are no longer here because of the abuse dished out. 

If there is any business being conducted at Rovers then I would suggest waiting for the club to announce it before over reacting to social media outburst and the daily fail news!

Other than that have a great Sunday, 3 weeks u TIL a day out at Ibrox???

This post- completely agree.

[K-Hod]

50 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Firstly I have to point out that I respect others opinions on this forum and I have not despite some suggestion slated members off on a persistent basis.

Secondly, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes at Ewood than anyone on here will ever know and on that basis TM and co SHOULD be given due credit and that includes Waggott who IMo has done ever so well after what’s gone before in the past 8 years or so.

Thirdly, it’s all fair and well being critical however some of it borders on rancid persistent rubbish and speculation, it’s this bit that bores the pants off readers on this forum and when one highlights this they are instantly set about!

Fourthly, discussion is all fair and well, but for it to be a progressive conversation or exchange of views, there has to be some element or basis of truth BUtT the fact remains, in particular to this thread, there hasn’t been one shred of evidence to back up the speculative theories!

There have been some wonderful contributors in these forums over the year but who no longer participate and that’s a shame. Whether they are barred, banned, suspended or whatever, the fact remains they are no longer here because of the abuse dished out. 

If there is any business being conducted at Rovers then I would suggest waiting for the club to announce it before over reacting to social media outburst and the daily fail news!

Other than that have a great Sunday, 3 weeks u TIL a day out at Ibrox???

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, some are too harsh, some not harsh enough. People have different opinions. Isn’t that reflective of society in general? 

You say that you respect others’ opinions, then you go on to criticise them. I only ever see you post and remark on people’s views and tell people when they can judge the manager.

Just maybe keep scrolling past people’s comments you don’t like and ignore them? 

Loads of people on here say things I disagree with and loads say stuff I agree with, such is life. 

I think we are getting into dangerous territory if we are telling people what they can and can’t think and when they are allowed to think it. 

My advice? Just keep scrolling....

 

Edited June 30, 2019 by K-Hod

[AllRoverAsia]

 

 

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Firstly I have to point out that I respect others opinions on this forum and I have not despite some suggestion slated members off on a persistent basis.

Secondly, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes at Ewood than anyone on here will ever know and on that basis TM and co SHOULD be given due credit and that includes Waggott who IMo has done ever so well after what’s gone before in the past 8 years or so.

Thirdly, it’s all fair and well being critical however some of it borders on rancid persistent rubbish and speculation, it’s this bit that bores the pants off readers on this forum and when one highlights this they are instantly set about!

Fourthly, discussion is all fair and well, but for it to be a progressive conversation or exchange of views, there has to be some element or basis of truth BUtT the fact remains, in particular to this thread, there hasn’t been one shred of evidence to back up the speculative theories!

There have been some wonderful contributors in these forums over the year but who no longer participate and that’s a shame. Whether they are barred, banned, suspended or whatever, the fact remains they are no longer here because of the abuse dished out. 

If there is any business being conducted at Rovers then I would suggest waiting for the club to announce it before over reacting to social media outburst and the daily fail news!

Other than that have a great Sunday, 3 weeks u TIL a day out at Ibrox???

I miss ABBEY too 

[rovers11]

I would be happy with the Gallagher signing. He’s still young and did well in his loan season here despite being part of the worst Rovers set up in decades. I’d guess we’d be laying around £5m for him and apparently he’s willing to take a drop in wages to come here.

Raya looks like he’s on his way out of the club. I don’t think TM rates him and that was evident from dropping him from the team for the final few games of the season. I’ll be a little disappointed to see him go as I think he could become a good GK, but equally I will not be overly bothered as I think we can get a more finished article to replace him. 

[AllRoverAsia]

 

 

 

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Just now, K-Hod said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, some are too harsh, some not harsh enough. People have different opinions. Isn’t that reflective of society in general? 

You say that you respect others’ opinions, then you go on to criticise them. I only ever see you post and remark on people’s views and tell people when they can judge the manager.

Just maybe keep scrolling past people’s comments you don’t like and ignore them? 

Loads of people on here say things I disagree with and loads say stuff I agree with, such is life. 

I think we are getting into dangerous territory if we are telling people what they can and can’t think and when they are allowed to think it. 

My advice? Just keep scrolling....

 

I really, really like that 

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I agree with you that Gallagher would bring more to the table than Brererton and he's more likely to fulfill the Graham role in the future but I don't honestly think he's the answer to our central striker problems. He's another one who lacks physicality and aggression. If we could give him some of what Big Sam gave Kevin Davies it might be another story.

I was going to say, Gallagher isn't a target man. He's never played up to his size. 

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, 1864roverite said:

Thirdly, it’s all fair and well being critical however some of it borders on rancid persistent rubbish and speculation, it’s this bit that bores the pants off readers on this forum and when one highlights this they are instantly set about!

Fourthly, discussion is all fair and well, but for it to be a progressive conversation or exchange of views, there has to be some element or basis of truth BUtT the fact remains, in particular to this thread, there hasn’t been one shred of evidence to back up the speculative theories!

I don't read every post as, if I've missed a day or so, I just go back a few pages to get on topic with the conversation.

However I don't get the two points I've quoted. It's a summer transfer thread. Since as long as I can remember, rumours and speculation have happened. Just because it's just a random rumour, it doesn't mean the merits of that player can't be discussed.

If your referring to something else, please just quote me a couple of examples as I really don't know what your talking about other than, what appears to be, you don't agree with some people and therefore you don't want to have to hear other peoples opinions.

Edited June 30, 2019 by Hasta

[Mattyblue]

Surely every poster on every football forum knows a summer transfer thread will be full of gossip, rubbish, over positive folk, over negative folk, ‘ITKers’, links to obscure sites linking us to player x,y,z, folk slagging off the ambition of the club, the inadequacies of the manager and on it goes.

It was ever thus, certainly on brfcs. But for some reason this isn’t allowed when Mowbray is involved, he’s a nice fella, doing a decent job, but he ain’t immune to a slagging off on the Internet.

So can we please stop with the daily arrival of his knights in shining armour telling people what is and isn’t acceptable to post.

Edited June 30, 2019 by Mattyblue

[Fraserkirky]

Fraserkirky   

 

Posted May 1, 2018

If your looking for a marquee signing then John McGinn from Hibs is the man. He is leaving Hibs probably for the championship. Price tag of 5m. 23 year old Scottish international. Brilliant centre midfielder

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I mentioned John McGinn on this forum a full three months before he signed for Villa. If Tony is needing any help with the scouting department he can shoot me a PM.

Man United could do a lot worse than spend 50m on him. 

Edited June 30, 2019 by Fraserkirky

[Fraserkirky]

As for selling Raya, then it’s just a stupid idea unless it’s 5m + and you have someone much better lined up for cheap. Still something in the Joe Hart stuff, strikes me as someone Tony would love.

Gallagher, ugh...not interested. He is not that different to Brereton. Much rather get Charlie Austin for a year, whilst Brereton develops. Butterworth coming through too as is Jack Vale. Need a Centre Half and Centre Midfielder to go straight into the first team, as a priority.

[roversfan99]

One thing that people imply with Gallagher is how he was hamstrung under Coyle, I'm not sure I fully agree with that theory as whilst obviously Coyle is a terrible manager, it was more often than not defensively where he was found wanting. Indeed, he often played in a 4-4-2 with Graham in the first half of that season, and if not with Emnes. You could argue that Mowbray's style was even less suited to him, with one striker and Gallagher often wide, a position he cannot perform in effectively, and I'm sure he scored most of his goals under Coyle.

That season he spent here was by far his best to date, and it wasnt that good. In the last 2 years he has spent key years of his development, firstly in a very underwhelming, barren year at Birmingham, followed by a year of him back at Southampton not playing at all, with a serious injury added into the package.

You look at his style of play and I don't think it at all fits into the style Mowbray has mentioned. He was rather ungainly and at times clumsy, you cant imagine the likes of Dack and Rothwell playing one twos off him. 

You also then ask further questions of the Brereton deal. In essence, we'd have spent over 10m on 2 strikers neither of which youd expect to start to the season. Thats in no way a luxury we can afford with the deficiencies we have further back. We play one striker with Dack just off them, we would have beside Graham, we would have Gallagher and Brereton both needing game time, Samuel who for some reason Mowbray rates, Nuttall and Armstrong competing for one place.

And obviously, theres the matter of splurging presumably a huge chunk of our budget on a striker when our defence is so bad.

He's definitely a better player than Brereton, Samuel or Nuttall at this moment in time, and hes far from the worst striker I've ever seen. But for me, I dont particularly rate him, and spending so much off our budget on him would be a terrible decision in my opinion.

Edited June 30, 2019 by roversfan99

[Guest]

Got to agree with the above, Gallagher was performing decently in a very poor side. I firmly believe that he could do well for us, but only if he's given full trust by Mowbray. Gallagher would have to be our starting striker, and we'd have to play around him. If not, then there's no point signing him, because we've already got a young lad in Brereton warming the bench.

Would sooner see us spend £5m on Jake Cooper really though.

[Give 'Em the Axe]

I wonder what kind of a fee Southampton would be looking for? I'd be quite satisfied if he signed up. Not one to have us dancing in the street, but solid.

[Sparks Rover]

21 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

 

Man United could do a lot worse than spend 50m on him. 

I don't think they could do many worse things....madness. mid table utd at best next season 

[neophox]

Graham looks realt fit in austria ans hungra and Raya keeps training as usual. Chapman also looks well as Dack!

[USABlue]

5 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:

I totally get what your saying but in the context of Tony's transfer habits I think Gallagher is the best we could hope for

also I agree about his physicality and agression but his desire, energy, endless running and closing down would be a great asset in seeing games out and keepin the ball higher up the pitch. Something I critised brereron for not doing and should be the bare minimum of a young striker. Gallagher is also a far better finisher. 

But no he isn't the answer to our target man, hold up play and linking the midfield but if tony is serious about playing retention football then he could be a better option than graham. Sadly i don't think we have the quality in the players around him to play this way and we will soon be reliant on graham again to do what he does so well

Like against Preston you mean?   That said I am not against Gallagher coming back.  Question is will Tony play him to his strengths or does his height mean Tony fancies him as a centre half.

Edited June 30, 2019 by USABlue

[Tormund]

Gallagher will be a decent enough signing at this level, he’s played this league and has done ok overall. If the budget is small then there’s not much better out there than him realistically. It’s time he left Southampton and settled somewhere where he will play and possibly thrive. 

[USABlue]

On the Southampton theme, any word on the Ginger Ninja and where his fortunes lie.  I know not here but interested in where he may end up.

[Oldgregg86]

29 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Like against Preston you mean?   That said I am not against Gallagher coming back.  Question is will Tony play him to his strengths or does his height mean Tony fancies him as a centre half.

I'm sure he is older and wiser and learned a lot from his first spell here and at brum

[JHRover]

Just now, USABlue said:

On the Southampton theme, any word on the Ginger Ninja and where his fortunes lie.  I know not here but interested in where he may end up.

Apparently his girlfriend didn't like being Up North so on that basis his career will be restricted to clubs in England south of Birmingham. Will be a shame for the lad if Everton or Man Utd offered him a deal but he had to turn it down.

As with 99% of professionals if we make the right offer he's available. Think we can safely say that's the issue.

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said:

I don't think they could do many worse things....madness. mid table utd at best next season 

If mcginn is worth 50 mill then I'm Brad Pitt's body double. He isn't even that well rated by his own Scotland fans. He'll be a midtable premiership player at best

Edited June 30, 2019 by roverandout

[Sparks Rover]

Just now, Oldgregg86 said:

I'm sure he is older and wiser and learned a lot from his first spell here and at brum

I remember Bolton at home in the relegation season, he should never play for the club again.   Waste of space really.

[Fraserkirky]

Just now, roverandout said:

If mcginn is worth 50 mill then I'm Brad Pitt's body double. He isn't even that well rated by his own Scotland fans. He'll be a midtable premiership player at best

He is by Villa and Hibs fans, the ones that got treated every week. He is phenomenal, and can still improve. The playoff final was a stalemate until he created the first goal and scored the second. 

[AspRover]

Re Raya, I'd prefer to keep him but if he is going to be sold then I want the replacement keeper in first please and thankyou.

Rate him or not he's the best we've got and I don't want a situation where we sell him and then flail around desperately trying to get a new keeper in as the window drags on and targets A,B and C turn us down or head elsewhere before a panic buy on deadline day.

If we're getting a new keeper he'll need a full pre-season with this defence. They aren't of the quality for someone to just slot right in seamlessly.