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10 hours ago, 47er said:

So long as £7M doesn't go on one player who isn't able to play.

Isn’t able to play or isn’t able to dislodge the eventual player of the season?

Im not under the impression transfer business is simple, and whilst I’d like to see more cash hit the first team, I’d be happy if they’re putting the wage bill up and/or investing a few million in the team !

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15 hours ago, Angry_Pirate said:

                      GK

Zabaleta - CB - Kompany  - LB

            Keane - CM

RW         - Zidane -     Dugarry

            Lewandowski

I think those 7 would beat almost every Blackburn starting 11 from the past 8 years. 😂

Were we not linked with Gareth Bale at one point during the Bentley to Spurs period and turned down the part exchange, also we turned down signing Son Hueng Min for the weekly wage of a championship player, did we not? Stick Bale at LB and Son on RW and that team is only a CB and CM shy of Champions League domination...

I'd personally keep Raya in goal 😉

No Luca Toni???😳

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19 minutes ago, Biz said:

Isn’t able to play or isn’t able to dislodge the eventual player of the season?

 

Isn't good enough.

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Just now, 47er said:

Isn't good enough.

No worries, I personally wouldn’t be judging any u21 without even a handful of starts! Each to their own.

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When you stated we spent £10+ million last summer on transfers, I assume you were assuming £7M for the transfer of Brereton?

Its just that you denied that for months....

As for the under-21 bit, when we signed him you insisted he was an 'experienced" player with Forest and told me how many games he'd played.

I'm all for under-21's but not at £7M. You can't divorce the fee from the transfer when judging it.

So, to be relevant to the thread, I hope TM never makes a blunder like that this transfer window or any other.

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Just now, 47er said:

When you stated we spent £10+ million last summer on transfers, I assume you were assuming £7M for the transfer of Brereton?

Its just that you denied that for months....

As for the under-21 bit, when we signed him you insisted he was an 'experienced" player with Forest and told me how many games he'd played.

I'm all for under-21's but not at £7M. You can't divorce the fee from the transfer when judging it.

So, to be relevant to the thread, I hope TM never makes a blunder like that this transfer window or any other.

Ah so it was an attempt to dig up 8 month old arguments!

Put it this way, if we spend this summer, a decent dollop on a young lad who’s not quite ready to usurp one of the other key players, I won’t be calling it a blunder before they’ve even had a proper chance! 

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

I'm all for under-21's but not at £7M. You can't divorce the fee from the transfer when judging it.

So, to be relevant to the thread, I hope TM never makes a blunder like that this transfer window or any other.

Let’s not forget that £7m isn’t what was paid. Only £3/4m was upfront, the rest comes in the form of add-ons.

So “similar budget to last year” really means about £4-5m, not £10m. 

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Just now, JoeHarvey said:

Let’s not forget that £7m isn’t what was paid. Only £3/4m was upfront, the rest comes in the form of add-ons.

 

£3/4 million it is then...

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1 hour ago, Biz said:

Ah so it was an attempt to dig up 8 month old arguments!

Er, no it wasn't but you haven't addressed it!

Put it this way, if we spend this summer, a decent dollop on a young lad who’s not quite ready to usurp one of the other key players, I won’t be calling it a blunder before they’ve even had a proper chance! 

"not quite ready"---outrageous understatement! And, if they cost £7m (a very decent dollop) and can't make the side, I'll be calling it a blunder again. Especially if we can't afford ready defenders.

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, JoeHarvey said:

Let’s not forget that £7m isn’t what was paid. Only £3/4m was upfront, the rest comes in the form of add-ons.

So “similar budget to last year” really means about £4-5m, not £10m. 

You don't know how the deal breaks down in numbers. Nobody outside the top people in the clubs involved does. Even the LT has reported inconsistent figures.

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2 hours ago, Biz said:

Ah so it was an attempt to dig up 8 month old arguments!

Think he's just asking you to be consistent with your own arguments, instead of shifting them with the wind when it suits.

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Just now, JoeHarvey said:

Let’s not forget that £7m isn’t what was paid. Only £3/4m was upfront, the rest comes in the form of add-ons.

So “similar budget to last year” really means about £4-5m, not £10m. 

But that pretty much applies to every transfer. If we sold Dack and the reported fee was £15m that would include add ons and more importantly staged payments. Any club would have to budget for add on clauses over the length of a players contract. 

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58 minutes ago, JoeHarvey said:

Let’s not forget that £7m isn’t what was paid. Only £3/4m was upfront, the rest comes in the form of add-ons.

So “similar budget to last year” really means about £4-5m, not £10m. 

3 to 4 million upfront is a hell of a whack.

Agree on the 4-5 mill being more realistic for an actual spend budget and it's a decent figure that can make a difference if they pull their fingers out and go for the right players in the right positions.

2 coming in first 11 capable plus 2 good loans and the usual couple of squaddies would be a step in the right direction but they must be for the right areas on the pitch not scattergun for the sake of bodies or long odds gambles.

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4 hours ago, Biz said:

Isn’t able to play or isn’t able to dislodge the eventual player of the season?

Im not under the impression transfer business is simple, and whilst I’d like to see more cash hit the first team, I’d be happy if they’re putting the wage bill up and/or investing a few million in the team !

He makes a valid point. Did we need an up and coming player or could the 7m have been better spent elsewhere? He rarely replaced Graham, mainly coming on as a wide man. 

If I'd had 7m on FM, I wouldn't be signing potential. If we have similar amounts this summer, then I hope he signs, proven quality to enhance the 1st 11. 

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Just now, Dr X said:

He makes a valid point. Did we need an up and coming player or could the 7m have been better spent elsewhere? He rarely replaced Graham, mainly coming on as a wide man. 

If I'd had 7m on FM, I wouldn't be signing potential. If we have similar amounts this summer, then I hope he signs, proven quality to enhance the 1st 11. 

Still though - as I originally stated, I’d be happy to see us pumping a similar amount into the team this summer!

Transfers are never straight forward either, you rarely get them all right - and since last summer we added a few decent players, I’m confident we will again if the same amount is available.

57 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Think he's just asking you to be consistent with your own arguments, instead of shifting them with the wind when it suits.

I’m quite sure that none of us need the cyclical and boring arguments about how much he actually cost.

If you’re desperate for that - I’m sure you and 47er can find the Brereton thread, save rest of us the repetition.

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8 minutes ago, Iceman said:

 

and need a proper tough captain! Bennett is a liability imo.. 

Chris Samba is still without club as far as I know. Wonder if he's still any good. 35 years old and probably used to a bit higher salary than we can afford... 

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Just now, rickard said:

Chris Samba is still without club as far as I know. Wonder if he's still any good. 35 years old and probably used to a bit higher salary than we can afford... 

No

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Just now, rickard said:

Chris Samba is still without club as far as I know. Wonder if he's still any good. 35 years old and probably used to a bit higher salary than we can afford... 

Really find it surprising how he wasn't a megastar post-Rovers. An absolute colossus once he got used to the league and ironed out the odd concentration error. 

Even 70% of Samba at his pomp is what we're crying out for. Sadly he's not likely to be as good as that. 

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47 minutes ago, Dr X said:

He makes a valid point. Did we need an up and coming player or could the 7m have been better spent elsewhere? He rarely replaced Graham, mainly coming on as a wide man. 

If I'd had 7m on FM, I wouldn't be signing potential. If we have similar amounts this summer, then I hope he signs, proven quality to enhance the 1st 11. 

😂😂🤣🤣

Yeah, you are right Dr X. Maybe attach your FM history to your CV the next time the job comes open...you may get it.

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1 hour ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

😂😂🤣🤣

Yeah, you are right Dr X. Maybe attach your FM history to your CV the next time the job comes open...you may get it.

Glad you agree. 

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2 hours ago, Biz said:

 

I’m quite sure that none of us need the cyclical and boring arguments about how much he actually cost.

If you’re desperate for that - I’m sure you and 47er can find the Brereton thread, save rest of us the repetition.

Are you really obtuse enough to miss the point twice, even when I spelt it out so clearly? If that's all you've got then it really would be pointless having a discussion with you, so I will just leave it here.

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