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8 hours ago, adz4d2 said:

http://sportsrecents.com/blackburn-rovers-keen-on-signing-liverpools-ben-woodburn-on-loan/?fbclid=IwAR0dsepK8AR3JwTHhlm2e13rQxI__x27CmH3sHSFpObMq9Gx4m0l3DR9-d8

BEN WOODBURN, would be a colossal signing if we were to pull it off, extremely highly rated and definitely someone who could improve us going forward.

We were linked with him last summer I seem to recall. Or might have been the Jan window?

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Ah yes the kid on loan from a Premier League club with only a handful of career appearances everyone gets excited about when he joins, conveniently for next to nothing, before disappointing. Seen that one before here. Next please.

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32 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Ah yes the kid on loan from a Premier League club with only a handful of career appearances everyone gets excited about when he joins, conveniently for next to nothing, before disappointing. Seen that one before here. Next please.

I think I will go and hang myself...

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If we don't sign many good oven ready players this window as I expect we won't then I will expect a lot of rotating next season between youth and the old favs.

That'll be frustrating and probably detrimental at times so be prepared but the season after it might pay dividends with a few of the established players being phased out and a few off the wage bill.

The aim might be a vibrant young side on a more sustainable wage bill so there'll be plenty book value for trading purposes and FFP.  I think that might just be the plan even though it's being dressed up as something else.  For me though again you really need that built on rock solid foundations and a good core style of football, I think this manager and coaching staff will be good at the former but not sure about the latter but will the owners care if the team is worth money and costing less ?

If we could actually have a good stab at the play offs somewhere in there it would make it all the more exciting for the fans and help this growing a team/club again no end so I really hope that is the real aim not just old heads to try to hold together a water treading low investment young side. 

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49 minutes ago, philipl said:

I think I will go and hang myself...

Steven Hendrie, Jack Byrne, Martin Samuelson, Modou Barrow, Doniel Henry, Matt Grimes, Kasey Palmer, Todd Kane, Kerim Rekik, Cameron Stewart.

Seen it all before.

Only ones that worked out ok for us were Tom Lawrence and Sam Gallagher though both had played regularly elsewhere before coming here.

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I thought Kane was ok in spells and to be fair some of those interesting signings under both Bowyer and Mowbray have fallen down because both manager quite clearly either had no idea how to use them properly or were very reluctant too.

Begs the question did they really want them or just grabbed them for bodies sake puffing out the squad cheaply or did they even sign them !

Be nice to actually spend a summer recruiting for positions properly.

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25 minutes ago, arbitro said:

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2019/june/an-amicable-departure/

Mowbray on Conway saying his wages will now 'will open up some cash flow to put into wages'. 

I found that an odd comment as it was Mowbray who was happy to spend the wages on someone not expected to actually play much but is 'nice' and was his fly on the wall in the dressing room. Tony would be suited to running a Rest Home.

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12 hours ago, blueboy3333 said:

Knee jerk reaction after 12 months? That's a very slow jerk. It's almost tantric. 

He was bad this season no argument there what I'm saying is there have been loads of cases where players have not lived up to price tag in first year but proved well worth the money over time. 

Let the player develop to the potential many think he has and the fee which could rise to 7m will have been worth it.

Or we bin him off call him a flop and buy someone. 

I know which strategy I thinks better. 

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He's basically saying Craig's 10k pwk will be useful to put towards Downings 20k..... 😎

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Just now, Beanie01289 said:

He was bad this season no argument there what I'm saying is there have been loads of cases where players have not lived up to price tag in first year but proved well worth the money over time. 

Let the player develop to the potential many think he has and the fee which could rise to 7m will have been worth it.

Or we bin him off call him a flop and buy someone. 

I know which strategy I thinks better. 

Oh we have no choice but to stick with him. The fee has determined that.

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12 hours ago, Miller11 said:

The fact that he has only managed a handful of appearances is precisely the reason people are questioning the wisdom of the signing.

It’s not, the main reason, as you’ve just stated in your longer reply, is people question his ability. 

Im saying it’s impossible for a supporter like myself or yourself to judge somebody’s technical ability based off the amount of games Brereton has played.

 

if the main issue was that he cost £7m and he doesn’t play, I’d agree totally, but by your own admittance that’s not what this is about.

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Brereton in the 2018/19 Season made 25 appearances, 4 starts. 15 sub appearances were of more than 20 minutes and of those 10 were 30 minutes or longer. It was NOT just a few 10 minute appearances.

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Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17703350.could-rovers-match-ben-brereton-fee-this-summer/

Better late than never. A year after the event Mowbray tells his current story on the Brereton signing. I can't take much more hogwash.

 

John McGinn, Bersant Celina and Luke Freeman

With those three in our midfield, good chance we would have made the playoffs. 

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2 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17703350.could-rovers-match-ben-brereton-fee-this-summer/

Better late than never. A year after the event Mowbray tells his current story on the Brereton signing. I can't take much more hogwash.

That reads to me exactly what some of us have been saying all along. We had a sum of money, we got knocked back on several players we'd been chasing. So rather than bank it,  we lumped the dosh on a tip off at the last minute.

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Just pleased that he says we have a similar amount to spend this time around too - just hope they have identified and made early moves for our targets this time around. Maybe spread the money around a bit more this time too - CB or two, GK, CM and CF would do then bring in some more experienced loans (not kids from the PL).

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59 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

I found that an odd comment as it was Mowbray who was happy to spend the wages on someone not expected to actually play much but is 'nice' and was his fly on the wall in the dressing room. Tony would be suited to running a Rest Home.

And he will also be using some of his salary budget on Gladwin who isn't expected back until the end of the year at the earliest. Add convalescent home to the rest home.

Madness in my view.

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31 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17703350.could-rovers-match-ben-brereton-fee-this-summer/

Better late than never. A year after the event Mowbray tells his current story on the Brereton signing. I can't take much more hogwash.

There it is from the horses mouth my suspicions confirmed that it was a panic move late on as money was on the table and Mowbray felt compelled to spend it through fear it wouldn't materialise down the line. 

The big question for me is whether that cash was there all summer and we failed to invest it until the 11th hour due to pursuing unrealistic targets for weeks and weeks or it wasn't and someone at Venky Hq suddenly decided to throw a lump sum into the mix to sign a 'star' player hence the last minute nature of it and throwing it all into one player rather than spreading it around the team.

Incomprehensible that Mowbray would opt to spend such an amount on a 19 year old project whilst doing next to nothing with the defence and midfield and ending up with no fit centre halves in January.

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11 minutes ago, JHRover said:

There it is from the horses mouth my suspicions confirmed that it was a panic move late on as money was on the table and Mowbray felt compelled to spend it through fear it wouldn't materialise down the line. 

The big question for me is whether that cash was there all summer and we failed to invest it until the 11th hour due to pursuing unrealistic targets for weeks and weeks or it wasn't and someone at Venky Hq suddenly decided to throw a lump sum into the mix to sign a 'star' player hence the last minute nature of it and throwing it all into one player rather than spreading it around the team.

Incomprehensible that Mowbray would opt to spend such an amount on a 19 year old project whilst doing next to nothing with the defence and midfield and ending up with no fit centre halves in January.

Reading what Mowbray says it is clear that money was available all summer, not spent on Fees as we could not meet wage demands and then spunked on one player rather than maybe lose it. When that player fails to make the grade from the start he becomes one for the future. Hell, I could feck up like that!

I wonder who tipped Mowbray off on Brereton as he would not have been researched, as others have stated. I do remember reading something about this is a well-known Blog ......

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1 hour ago, JoeHarvey said:

It’s not, the main reason, as you’ve just stated in your longer reply, is people question his ability. 

Im saying it’s impossible for a supporter like myself or yourself to judge somebody’s technical ability based off the amount of games Brereton has played.

 

if the main issue was that he cost £7m and he doesn’t play, I’d agree totally, but by your own admittance that’s not what this is about.

When does it become acceptable for a supporter to judge a players technical ability? Is it possible for me or you to ever judge someone who plays for Real Madrid, Man United or Macclesfield? I’ve seen more of Brereton than I’ve seen of any of their players.

Really, it’s more about how Brereton is able to contribute, which in his first season was very little. He did more bad than good. I’d also point out we’ve had plenty of players who are widely accepted as technically lacking (Savage being a prime example) who have contributed plenty, whereas someone like Rochina who had all the technique in the world was pretty ineffective. Besides, if he had as much technical ability, or as much ability to influence as we’ve a right to expect of a £7 million signing, surely he’d have been given more first team opportunities?

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