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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

And add another 25% on to any fee we might pay.

Unfortunately it makes sense to keep us in the dark and come across as willing to walk away.

Don't really think so, we give general statements on priority all the time.

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Taking the popular opinion that Lenihan is our best defender (I agree by the way), what was our record like when both Mulgrew and Lenihan played?

I'm not questioning that we need to replace Mulgrew to kick on, but I'm not fully convinced he's completely done either. Just wondered whether there were any glaring stats suggesting we didn't improve as much as you'd expect when Lenihan came back from injury and it was in fact when Mulgrew was dropped for Williams that we started to improve. 

I appreciate I could look this up (although I don't have time), but I feel like someone might've done some analysis on this previously.

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Just now, RoverKyle said:

Taking the popular opinion that Lenihan is our best defender (I agree by the way), what was our record like when both Mulgrew and Lenihan played?

I'm not questioning that we need to replace Mulgrew to kick on, but I'm not fully convinced he's completely done either. Just wondered whether there were any glaring stats suggesting we didn't improve as much as you'd expect when Lenihan came back from injury and it was in fact when Mulgrew was dropped for Williams that we started to improve. 

I appreciate I could look this up (although I don't have time), but I feel like someone might've done some analysis on this previously.

Someone did come up with stats on how we fared with Mulgrew in the team compared to when he wasn't - I remember it being quite grim reading to be honest. 

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TBH I think williams is ahead of mulgrew now. Not a fan of williams at LB, but I dont think he has ever really let us down much at centre back. Thought we finished last season quite well with him and Lenihan as the pair.

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47 minutes ago, FGS5635 said:

TBH I think williams is ahead of mulgrew now. Not a fan of williams at LB, but I dont think he has ever really let us down much at centre back. Thought we finished last season quite well with him and Lenihan as the pair.

Apart from the two free headers we gave Swansea on the final day which they scored from!

Williams really isn't the answer back there, he should be someone to come and fill in for 3 or 4 games because of injury's not a regular starter.

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You can asign goals to every defender. Lenihan certainly has his fair share to.

Im not saying williams is a starter, I just said imo he is ahead of mulgrew at this stage.

Id still rather it is Lenihan plus a new signing back there

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30 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Depressing, another day but same old story.

Think Mowbray making it up as he stumbles along.

 

Yep, another day and the same old story, same old posts! 

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1 hour ago, ChickenBolty said:

"Mr Minimum". What an insult that is. 

I think you forget the state of the moral of the squad, fans and entire community before he was appointed. I for one, can say that it finally feels like being a Blackburn Rovers fan again and it's took some years to feel that way. 

The owners clearly trust him and this has shown by the significant transfer fees he has had since taking over. 

I think his biggest downfall was spending the money on Bretherton. If that transfer didn't happen I think the general consensus of the fan base would be that last season was a success. However, unfortunately (and understandably) people felt that money could have been used to strengthen other areas of the squad. 

The grass isn't always greener and for me and I don't think there is many managers out there who care as much for their club as Tony does for us. 

Spot on. He isn't a coaching genius but his man-management is right up there & that got us promoted out of a division that the likes of Leeds, Sheff Utd and now Sunderland have found out isn't a walk in the park, however big you are. 

We both know last season was not bare minimum touch and go 'survival' but some twist the truth to suit their agenda. These people need to look up the definition of 'support'. 

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Just now, windymiller7 said:

They've just signed pontus jansson from Leeds, so assume, unlike us, they signed a replacement before letting him leave!

Or maybe Janssen was the replacement for Mepham who joined Bournemouth in January? It's hard to know seeing as they are selling so many players 

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Just looking at ins and outs I don’t think Brentford are any better of than last season especially if they sign Gallagher to replace Maupay.

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Just now, pick32 said:

Just looking at ins and outs I don’t think Brentford are any better of than last season especially if they sign Gallagher to replace Maupay.

Now now you won't get any traction here with that kind of talk. Brentford are the model club and we could only dream of being like them. Apparently. 

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34 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Someone did come up with stats on how we fared with Mulgrew in the team compared to when he wasn't - I remember it being quite grim reading to be honest. 

It was. I don't recall exact numbers, but we won more total points in the games where Mulgrew didn't play than the ones where he did - and he played in something like twice as many games as he missed.

When you consider how many goals he scored, too...that's some seriously bad defending that went on in the games he played. Could be coincidence, but my eyes suggest it wasn't.

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Just now, bluebruce said:

It was. I don't recall exact numbers, but we won more total points in the games where Mulgrew didn't play than the ones where he did - and he played in something like twice as many games as he missed.

When you consider how many goals he scored, too...that's some seriously bad defending that went on in the games he played. Could be coincidence, but my eyes suggest it wasn't.

Thats why it makes no sense when people say we will miss his goals. Obviously not if he only scores in games we lose anyway.

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I'd leave Mulgrew out just so he cant take corners. Drives me bonkers having our centre half whip corners in every game to a team full of midgets

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Just now, JacknOry said:

Thats why it makes no sense when people say we will miss his goals. Obviously not if he only scores in games we lose anyway.

It's really a shame we can't just wheel him on for his set pieces. He'd probably be a 3-5 million pound player even at his age if we could!

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Just now, bluebruce said:

It was. I don't recall exact numbers, but we won more total points in the games where Mulgrew didn't play than the ones where he did - and he played in something like twice as many games as he missed.

When you consider how many goals he scored, too...that's some seriously bad defending that went on in the games he played. Could be coincidence, but my eyes suggest it wasn't.

 

Just now, JacknOry said:

Thats why it makes no sense when people say we will miss his goals. Obviously not if he only scores in games we lose anyway.

Fair comments. I do remember seeing the post, but don't recall any of the stats from it. If we can bring in a defender who - on the whole - doesn't make silly mistakes and can largely keep the ball away from the back of the net, we'll improve. 

In terms of set pieces, I'm sure there'll be someone else on our books who can step up and take them. Surely Dack and Rothwell have the technique to be able to test the keeper from a dangerous position. 

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Just now, FGS5635 said:

I'd leave Mulgrew out just so he cant take corners. Drives me bonkers having our centre half whip corners in every game to a team full of midgets

Nice when they go in though!

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Just now, RoverKyle said:

Nice when they go in though!

lol true, but that shows how bad we are at corners that he effecivley shoots everytime he takes one

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Just a random though, what do you guys think we could have gotten for Alan Shearer in today's market? I mean, clubs buy 4th choice keepers for more than we got for him back in the day.

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Just now, rickard said:

Just a random though, what do you guys think we could have gotten for Alan Shearer in today's market? I mean, clubs buy 4th choice keepers for more than we got for him back in the day.

Under the same circumstances? I.e. we have recently been champions of England & had Shearer in his prime?

Basically as much as Kane would cost in the current market, comfortably in the hundreds of millions, 

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Just now, rickard said:

Just a random though, what do you guys think we could have gotten for Alan Shearer in today's market? I mean, clubs buy 4th choice keepers for more than we got for him back in the day.

Well if they are talking 70mil for Lukaku, then shearer is worth at least 3 billion quid in todays market

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