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13 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Very short sighted in today's market though; you only have to look at the profit the Bees have made on Konsa in one season. Full back prices are also astronomical these days too. It's like the V's are still stuck in the 90s.

The "v"s aren't buying the players Mowbray is apparently

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Just now, Miller11 said:

Never mind the fees we payed for Armstrong, Brereton and probably now Gallagher too... Dominic Samuel cost more than our entire defence.

Denying there is something beyond Mowbray’s control going on is burying your head in the sand.

Venkys won’t spend on defenders.

Says you - you can't state something as fact when it's actually just an opinion. Opinions are indeed like arseholes...

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                GK 

RyNy   Lenihan   CH     Bell

   Travis   Dack   Johnson

  Gally       DG      Rothwell

 

Would like that

433 is just 4231 in all but name really

Edited by S8 & Blue

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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

                GK 

RyNy   Lenihan   CH     Bell

   Travis   Dack   Johnson

  Gally       DG      Rothwell

 

Would like that

Full backs not good enough defensively.  Would mean Lenihan and CH being pulled out of position to cover.

would be great going forward though.

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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

                GK 

RyNy   Lenihan   CH     Bell

   Travis   Dack   Johnson

  Gally       DG      Rothwell

 

Would like that

433 is just 4231 in all but name really

Yup, Travis and Johnson would sit, Dack would assume his usual position and Gally and Rothwell are the wide forwards that we already use anyway.

Same thing as what we';re doing anyway tbh.

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Just now, yeti-dog said:

Says you - you can't state something as fact when it's actually just an opinion. Opinions are indeed like arseholes...

You can draw conclusions when presented with evidence though.

And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest my theory holds water.

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No, I think if it's proper 4-3-3 then you have to have three genuine midfielders in there. For instance, Liverpool might have Keita, Fabinho and Henderson. All mobile, get up and down the pitch to support  both the attack and the defence - they aren't just there to be defensive mids.

I'd be okay with that as it rules out  Evans and Smallwood and prefers the Travis type of midfielder. 

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Just now, 4000Holes said:

Full backs not good enough defensively.  Would mean Lenihan and CH being pulled out of position to cover.

would be great going forward though.

I think GK and CH will make a huge difference 😂

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Just now, ruggles1995 said:

heres a shout, what about Peter Crouch on a Free ? I think he would be a alright squad player. Forget Age, experience, and squad role I think he would do a job

Tall enough to play CB at least. Seriously, you think we need another striker when we're just about to buy our sixth for that position already and only have one spot in the team?

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Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Where did I say that I think it would be acceptable? I just said what I think will happen 

By open ended I mean, if Gallagher signs a 4 year deal, will his future wages mean we have less to spend this summer or will it come out of future budgets. Obviously coming out of future budgets would be better. 

Sorry, I hadn't read your subsequent posts at that point, which don't appear to support the notion at all. I was just going off the fact you appear generally happy with how things are going and will go, and have staunchly defended our transfer approach pretty much all summer.

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Just now, yeti-dog said:

No, I think if it's proper 4-3-3 then you have to have three genuine midfielders in there. For instance, Liverpool might have Keita, Fabinho and Henderson. All mobile, get up and down the pitch to support  both the attack and the defence - they aren't just there to be defensive mids.

I'd be okay with that as it rules out  Evans and Smallwood and prefers the Travis type of midfielder. 

Yeah but it would be a good plan B if DG is tiring -

Trav, Johnson, Downing as Milner, Dack as Salah, Rothwell as Mane and Gally as Firmino, 

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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Yeah but it would be a good plan B if DG is tiring -

Trav, Johnson, Downing as Milner, Dack as Salah, Rothwell as Mane and Gally as Firmino, 

We just need a VVD now and we are set

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Just now, S8 & Blue said:

Yeah but it would be a good plan B if DG is tiring -

Trav, Johnson, Downing as Milner, Dack as Salah, Rothwell as Mane and Gally as Firmino, 

If Gally is Firminho, we really have had Southampton's pants down. 

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I think Gallagher would be a great signing for us. For whatever reason it didn't work out for him at Birmingham.

What if dack gets sold come deadline day and Graham gets an injury? Entirely possible then who would lead the line? Not Armstrong as he is more effective out wide and we dont have any wide players with pace bar Chapman.

If dack does end up moving on Graham and Gallagher would be an ideal partnership.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, EgyptianPete said:

I think it was a joke from the England film cant remember the title, but a funny film all the same. someone will enlighten us.

Mike Bassett England Manager

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21 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Gallagher is not a bad signing, but we would really need to look at moving out Samuel and Nuttall (even on loan), as I can't see them getting anywhere near the team.

Graham, Gallagher, Brereton and Armstrong should be enough options in the 18 and with the other two out on loan with a January recall in case we have injuries.

Rothwell, Chapman, Armstrong, Bennett, Dack, Butterworth and Gallagher as wide /CAM options is plenty too.

Likewise Travis, Johnson, Davenport, Downing, Evans, Buckley (Adam, Butterfield), Smallwood and Bennett are crazy numbers for CM. 

That's 20 players, TWENTY, for 6 positions. Yet we have 1 (poor) GK and 5 (actual) defenders. Insanity.

Yeah, the squad balance right now is way off. You can definitely sense that players are outgoing, hopefully one of either Evans or Smallwood in the middle, if not both. God forbid it's Travis.

I don't understand the issue with signing defenders. Surely Mowbray realises it, he has spoke about defenders coming, is it a case of us losing our targets or is there no longer a genuine appetite amongst the club staff for new players in that area? Do they see Wharton/Magloire stepping up?

We can't judge until the end of the window, but as it currently stands our squad is top heavy. 

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We do need to sign a centre back but I am also hoping that tyler magloire and scott wharton can push on this year and challenge for regular first team football.  The full back areas though are an area of concern.

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Scott Wharton won't push on for a regular first team place if he stays until he is 32 unfortunately. Lad needs to move on for his own career

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Just now, bluebruce said:

Sorry, I hadn't read your subsequent posts at that point, which don't appear to support the notion at all. I was just going off the fact you appear generally happy with how things are going and will go, and have staunchly defended our transfer approach pretty much all summer.

No I haven't. I just haven't posted hourly updates on how worked up I am, unlike some. I try to discuss things from the point oint of where we are. 

We have to sign a keeper. It's implausible that we won't. The CB position worries me and I have expressed that on numerous occasions. 

Edited by Bigdoggsteel

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36 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Yes pal, and you’re conveniently side stepping the very obvious change in tactics and playing style that the manager (and players) have been talking about for weeks.

No pal, it's very convenient to say that but there is nothing obvious about it until they start doing it talk is just that, talk. 

Let's see them use it as their core style before we judge there's a difference between that and changing about in games or week to week to suit the opposition, let's have OUR style and impose it on them for a change.

By the way ever heard the phrase 'revert to type' ?   let's see how long..........

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6 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

heres a shout, what about Peter Crouch on a Free ? I think he would be a alright squad player. Forget Age, experience, and squad role I think he would do a job

No just no, totally spent force and an expensive one.

Edit :  retirement confirms this.

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10 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

                GK 

RyNy   Lenihan   CH     Bell

   Travis   Dack   Johnson

  Gally       DG      Rothwell

 

Would like that

433 is just 4231 in all but name really

No no no no no no. We aren’t paying 5 million for him too play on the f**king wing mate. He’s got too take Graham’s place in the side, if he comes in and hits the ground running then that will happen but I’m not having him shoe horned in on the wing when he’s a striker. 

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OK let's just say we do sign a keeper and CB, we won't be in a bad spot then really. We have serious firepower. Defenders wil not relish coming up against Graham, Dack, Rothwell, Chapman, Downing and Armstrong. A lot of stuff for defenders to worry about there. Then if Brereton and Gallagher start chipping in as well. 

Have ye watched the behind the scenes training videos on YouTube? Brereton banging them in. Maybe it's propoganda 😂 but there are a good few clips of him scoring. 

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