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Just now, Tormund said:

Mulgrew deserves a bit more respect to be honest. Yes he’s maybe not as good as he was but he’s done more than enough.

It's an unforgiving industry at times and he's got plenty adulation and hero worship for his scoring exploits but his job is to help keep them out so no he hasn't done more than enough.

20k+ plus per week and being allowed to put country before club at times is more than enough to take a bit of justified flak.

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Just now, Ewood Ace said:

I don't pay any attention to pre-season friendlies they are about fitness and nothing else. 

Judge him after a few games yeah 👍🏼

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2 hours ago, alex l said:

I have to question whether those criticising TM on that quote have read the full article. He's pretty much dismissed attack and midfield additions, says defence will be looked at along with keeper. The overall message is he still intends to get transfers in, yet the line being focused on is that is content with defensive options. 

Given that was our frailty, 48 hours before game 1 he's hardly going to instill confidence if he said we're desperate for defenders cos we're poor at the back. It would also drive up prices for us 

Again its about priorities. After he's signed the forwards and mid-fielders he likes---then have a last-minute look at the defence.

Wrong way round!

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I thought it more than a coincidence that Mulgrew’s crap spells coincided with club vs country spats with the manager, so maybe the issue was at least partly attitudinal. Mowbray’s end of season rants plus signing this City player might have Mulgrew pull his socks up and start stopping a few with his bollocks.

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Sounds like it wasn't a bad fee for Nuttall the lad still has lots of lower division potential and he was handy to have around although a bit bizarre how he was overlooked at times.  That though probably reflected his lack of all round game he's a lurker rather than a worker and a poacher rather than target man at this level.

Worth the experiment though and they've got a bit back towards covering it so best of luck, feed him and he'll bag a few.

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Nuttall is not a championship standard player 

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22 minutes ago, Tormund said:

Mulgrew deserves a bit more respect to be honest. Yes he’s maybe not as good as he was but he’s done more than enough.

I'm not going to pretend he can defend just to be respectful.

Charlie has an absolute wand of a left foot. I don't think I've watched a Rovers player with better set pieces, probably even Bentley (hard to say though because Bentley was doing it in the Prem). His goal contribution is exceptional, a centre half has no right to score anything like that number, and he was so crucial to us in the League One season. He wasn't defending particularly well then either, but with the type of team we were relative to opponents, it didn't stand out as much or cause as many problems, and was easily outstripped by his goals.

For this league though, he is too slow, with poor positional sense, stands off too much, and we are suffering from playing him even when he launches those beauties into the net, as the stats back up. It's not disrespectful to say this, it's just reality.

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9 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Mike Hickman - straight in the team and scored hat trick in 5-2 win over Plymouth IIRC.

Check. He scored 2. Clearly not ready to play

What about Keith Fear?  Hadn’t even been introduced to the team then scored 2 (or maybe 3) at Burnley

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It's fine to criticise Mulgrew for the errors he made, but phrases such as "If Mulgrew starts, we lose. End of." are disrespectful, as are other comments made about him in this thread.

I happen to agree that his best days are behind him and he ought not to play just because he's club captain. But I'm comfortable with him starting on Saturday as TA has just landed, we've no other fit senior specialist CB available and this ought to be one of our easier games this season (at least defensively). 

Within 2 or 3 games, I'm confident that TA and / a new CB will be starting, unless Mulgrew pulls up trees; if he does, then he deserves to carry on.

Re Nuttall, good luck to him. I'd have preferred a loan as he could tear it up for Blackpool given proper game time because he knows where the net is, but if we got a good fee (as it seems we did) and there's either a good sell on or buy back clause, then I think it makes sense all round.

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Maybe if Evans would occasionally stick a foot in and break up the play in front of him Mulgrew wouldnt have been put in positions to be exposed...even better if Smallwood had a litle pace and wasnt chasing shadows...easy to blame Mulgrew when the two main men in front of him are substandard.

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Just now, onlyoneDuff said:

Maybe if Evans would occasionally stick a foot in and break up the play in front of him Mulgrew wouldnt have been put in positions to be exposed...even better if Smallwood had a litle pace and wasnt chasing shadows...easy to blame Mulgrew when the two main men in front of him are substandard.



His worst performances last season came towards the end of the season when it was Travis in front of him. But anyway the results don't lie we are a better side without Mulgrew in it.

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Just now, onlyoneDuff said:

Maybe if Evans would occasionally stick a foot in and break up the play in front of him Mulgrew wouldnt have been put in positions to be exposed...even better if Smallwood had a litle pace and wasnt chasing shadows...easy to blame Mulgrew when the two main men in front of him are substandard.

Would be tough to be a centre half in our side when the two full backs are as bad as the ones we have, too. I do think that Mulgrew is passed it, but just chucking in a decent centre half isn’t going to drastically improve things. Our defence last season was (and still is imo) set up to fail.

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The players who helped get us relegated in the first place all seem to have got a free pass on that by sticking around and helping us get promoted again... which was an absolute requirement rather than an achievement.

Coyle, and dross like Lowe, Ward, Guthrie, Akpan, Steele, Brown, Feeney etc all rightly get stick - don’t forget the likes of Mulgrew, Bennett and Evans were also a big part of that and the first two in particular struggled on their return to this level. Graham can obviously cut it, and hopefully Gallagher will redeem himself for that Preston fiasco by having a good season.

Anyway, Mulgrew will need to be on his game on Saturday - I like Lyle Taylor as a player, watched him a fair bit for Wimbledon when he was there. He’s busy and has excellent movement. I expect he will find a fair bit of space. I’d like to be looking forward to the game more, but I’m predicting a back 4 of Bennett, Lenihan, Mulgrew and Downing. That fills me with dread.

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Just now, Miller11 said:

The players who helped get us relegated in the first place all seem to have got a free pass on that by sticking around and helping us get promoted again... which was an absolute requirement rather than an achievement.

Coyle, and dross like Lowe, Ward, Guthrie, Akpan, Steele, Brown, Feeney etc all rightly get stick - don’t forget the likes of Mulgrew, Bennett and Evans were also a big part of that and the first two in particular struggled on their return to this level. Graham can obviously cut it, and hopefully Gallagher will redeem himself for that Preston fiasco by having a good season.

Anyway, Mulgrew will need to be on his game on Saturday - I like Lyle Taylor as a player, watched him a fair bit for Wimbledon when he was there. He’s busy and has excellent movement. I expect he will find a fair bit of space. I’d like to be looking forward to the game more, but I’m predicting a back 4 of Bennett, Lenihan, Mulgrew and Downing. That fills me with dread.

I think it could be...

               Tosin Lenihan Mulgrew

Bennett                                         Downing 

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Just now, Miller11 said:

The players who helped get us relegated in the first place all seem to have got a free pass on that by sticking around and helping us get promoted again... which was an absolute requirement rather than an achievement.

Coyle, and dross like Lowe, Ward, Guthrie, Akpan, Steele, Brown, Feeney etc all rightly get stick - don’t forget the likes of Mulgrew, Bennett and Evans were also a big part of that and the first two in particular struggled on their return to this level. Graham can obviously cut it, and hopefully Gallagher will redeem himself for that Preston fiasco by having a good season.

Anyway, Mulgrew will need to be on his game on Saturday - I like Lyle Taylor as a player, watched him a fair bit for Wimbledon when he was there. He’s busy and has excellent movement. I expect he will find a fair bit of space. I’d like to be looking forward to the game more, but I’m predicting a back 4 of Bennett, Lenihan, Mulgrew and Downing. That fills me with dread.

Bennett was frozen out by Coyle, let’s not rewrite history.

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Just now, RV Blue said:

Bennett was frozen out by Coyle, let’s not rewrite history.

He managed 25 league appearances... so yeah, let’s not.

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3 hours ago, RV Blue said:

So from ‘defenders are coming’ to ‘defensively we’re fine’, after signing a kid on loan from City. Bumbling idiot.

He may not be the greatest manager in the world, but bumbling idiot he is not.  What a lack of respect.

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2 hours ago, K-Hod said:

‘so defensively we’re fine’

Tony, 69 goals against last season says otherwise. 

I thought defenders were coming? 

Or is this another thing the manager says that we shouldn’t pay attention to?

Just checking - is this moderating?

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What does this even mean? We can or can't sign loan players after the 8th?

"While Rovers have until 5pm next Thursday to make permanent, and loan, additions, the window for loan signings for EFL clubs runs until August 31."

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Just now, J*B said:

No this is a moderator having an opinion. As per the thread in forum notices, its actively encouraged. We do not want or need robots, we want people to stop threads being derailed or ending up in slanging matches.

Hard to be even-handed when you're trolling the manager - as I've found.  20 years membership, three months, three bans.

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Just now, danger19_80 said:

What does this even mean? We can or can't sign loan players after the 8th?

"While Rovers have until 5pm next Thursday to make permanent, and loan, additions, the window for loan signings for EFL clubs runs until August 31."

League One and Two teams have until 31st August to complete loans. We have until 5pm next Thursday.

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Just now, Paul Mellelieu said:

Hard to be even-handed when you're trolling the manager - as I've found.  20 years membership, three months, three bans.

How can he troll the manager here? Unless I'm mistaken, the manager isn't a poster on these boards.

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