rigger Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, DE. said: I answered the Mulgrew point and moved onto another. Maybe I should have broken it into a seperate paragraph? A separate sentence would suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2019 Backroom Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, rigger said: A separate sentence would suffice. I can only apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBRFC Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 hours ago, AJW said: What concerns me is that we sell Dack and don't get the 4 or 5 players we desperately need we effectively are worse off than were we are now This is exactly what would happen, when has selling our best player to invest the funds into the team ever made us stronger? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Venkhater Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: This is exactly what would happen, when has selling our best player to invest the funds into the team ever made us stronger? Tony Field? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: This is exactly what would happen, when has selling our best player to invest the funds into the team ever made us stronger? Speedie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, rigger said: Speedie ? We didn't sell Speedie for 5 mill and invest it in Shearer and Ripley or have I missed your point because I think that is the type of thing he means, apologies if wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBRFC Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Tony Field? Anyone in the last 40 years? 46 minutes ago, tomphil said: ? We didn't sell Speedie for 5 mill and invest it in Shearer and Ripley or have I missed your point because I think that is the type of thing he means, apologies if wrong. Yeah thats what i meant. Shearer, Duff, Bentley, Santa Cruz, Samba, Jones, Rhodes all sold for mega money, the year after in every case we really struggled. It's pure fantasy to suggest we'll sell Dack and buy 5 players to become a better team, not a chance it will work that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Just now, MarkBRFC said: Anyone in the last 40 years? Yeah thats what i meant. Shearer, Duff, Bentley, Santa Cruz, Samba, Jones, Rhodes all sold for mega money, the year after in every case we really struggled. It's pure fantasy to suggest we'll sell Dack and buy 5 players to become a better team, not a chance it will work that way. Yep just too many demands on the money coming in for a loss making club like Rovers when it's coming in in dribs and drabs over several years it gets swallowed up the same way that's why the only way it would happen is owners stepping In and injecting specific funds there and then to provide the means to buy a new player for big money. These lot haven't seemed to work that way and post Jack or maybe early trust days it probably hasn't happened at all. I think that's why when Rhodes was being sold they tried to demand 9 million in one lump with the rest in instalments. If they'd got that Lambert might have got some of the funds he was promised instead of just the headroom on Rhodes wages. Edited April 4, 2019 by tomphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted April 4, 2019 Backroom Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Yeah thats what i meant. Shearer, Duff, Bentley, Santa Cruz, Samba, Jones, Rhodes all sold for mega money, the year after in every case we really struggled. It's pure fantasy to suggest we'll sell Dack and buy 5 players to become a better team, not a chance it will work that way. Indeed. Considering the money that's already been available and the calibre of player brought in on those funds... what evidence is there to suggest the Dack money will go towards anything other than a few more mediocre players? Probably more strikers to convert to wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, DE. said: Indeed. Considering the money that's already been available and the calibre of player brought in on those funds... what evidence is there to suggest the Dack money will go towards anything other than a few more mediocre players? Probably more strikers to convert to wingers. I wouldn't be so sure. It could get spent on central midfielders to convert to centre halves. Or possibly wingers to convert to full backs. Maybe central midfielders to convert to wingers, like Rothwell. The options are limitless (except for signing players to play in their actual positions, that's taboo). We could even sign very expensive players in pretty much any position, to play on the bench. Which may happen increasingly as we stick strictly to our artists:soldiers ratio regardless of the opposition. You shouldn't pigeon-hole our transfer plans like that, the world is our oyster (Please note, oysters will be used as sharks, pigeon-holes will be used as badger dens). Edited April 5, 2019 by bluebruce 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickard Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 6 hours ago, bluebruce said: I wouldn't be so sure. It could get spent on central midfielders to convert to centre halves. Or possibly wingers to convert to full backs. Maybe central midfielders to convert to wingers, like Rothwell. The options are limitless (except for signing players to play in their actual positions, that's taboo). We could even sign very expensive players in pretty much any position, to play on the bench. Which may happen increasingly as we stick strictly to our artists:soldiers ratio regardless of the opposition. You shouldn't pigeon-hole our transfer plans like that, the world is our oyster (Please note, oysters will be used as sharks, pigeon-holes will be used as badger dens). This is one of those situations where I want to laugh because it sounds ridiculous, but then I look at the squad we have and the transfer history and.... well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) All our budget should go on defenders. We have enough everywhere else I would argue. 3 high quality players, 2 centre halves and a left back. If we spent 10-15 million there, I would be over the moon. Edited April 5, 2019 by Bigdoggsteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 In an ideal world i'd go target man, proper midfielder and experienced captain material centre half and i'd be after quality not any old gamble. Right down the spine of the team and it wouldn't need to upset everything else or massively alter the way he plays it would imo just improve it enough to have a better season than this. Failing that I wouldn't be adverse to a good centre half, a back up one, a good left back and a decent striker on loan. All that should be perfectly doable if the other ideal world isn't. Somehow from inside his dense wooded tree house I think Mr Mowbray will see it completely different to us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted April 5, 2019 Backroom Share Posted April 5, 2019 Left back, right back, centre back and proper competition for Graham are the vital areas for me. We have enough midfielders to adapt to whatever system we employ next season, and if we don't have enough money to replace Raya then he should still be competent enough to not cost us too many points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 The competition for Graham would be nice, but if we don't go abroad or down the leagues we are talking huge money. I would prefer to focus as much resources as possible on the defence. We have some good young players who can come into midfield; Rothwell, Chapman, Davwenport, Buckley and Butterworth could all freshen things up without us having to spend money there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Keeper should be a big priority, a good centre half, a leader in centre mid and a CF... So pretty much the spine for our spineless team. Edited April 5, 2019 by Neal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stinny Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Centre half, centre midfielder, Winger and forward. 4 players that £5 million spent properly would fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tom Stinny said: Centre half, centre midfielder, Winger and forward. 4 players that £5 million spent properly would fix. I don't see how we need a centre midfielder when we have around 11, or a winger when we have Rothwell and Chapman to name but 2 who have barely played this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Said Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Centre half is unquestionably the priority area, closely followed by a goalkeeper and a left back. Yes we need to add further up the pitch but the above 3 are utterly critical. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Stinny Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: I don't see how we need a centre midfielder when we have around 11, or a winger when we have Rothwell and Chapman to name but 2 who have barely played this year Rothwell isn't a winger. Chapmans not played. I'd want Conway gone next year and Bennet as a rotation player which leaves Chapman as a natural winger and Armstrong because he's got some pace. A quality winger is just as important as a left back. I think a quality centre half would make the fallbacks play better because it needs some leadership at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 22 hours ago, tomphil said: ? We didn't sell Speedie for 5 mill and invest it in Shearer and Ripley or have I missed your point because I think that is the type of thing he means, apologies if wrong. I know it's not exactly the same but if Speedie hadn't have gone I don't think we would have got Shearer. Anyway it's all opinion not fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norbert Rassragr Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Since Tony is staying, as we all know he is the next window will decide exactly what path the club is on. If he balls it up and doesn't (or is not allowed to) address the defensive issues then we'll have a pretty dire season. His reputation is at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy3333 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 19/03/2019 at 22:49, RoversClitheroe said: Taylor Allen from Nuneaton is who we have on trial. He's signed for FGR https://the72.co.uk/128242/former-blackburn-rovers-trialist-pens-permanent-deal-league-two-side/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mani Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) TM was questioned yesterday by Rich Sharpe about positions he’s looking to fill and he confirmed priority as Cb’s (Plural) and a front line striker to challenge DG. He wouldn’t rule out a GK, fullbacks and a Cm either. My feeling is that these positions will look to be filled based on what’s available, who leaves and what’s left in the budget after they’ve filled those priority positions. Edited April 6, 2019 by Paul Mani Context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy3333 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Paul Mani said: TM was questioned yesterday by Rich Sharpe about positions he’s looking to fill and he confirmed priority as Cb’s (Plural) and a front line striker to challenge DG. He wouldn’t rule out a GK, fullbacks and a Cm either. My feeling is that these positions will look to be filled based on what’s available, who leaves and what’s left in the budget after they’ve filled those priority positions. Link or is that an interview still to be published? Edited April 6, 2019 by blueboy3333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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