sympatheticclaret Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 An Exclusive reported on-line on the " Independent's " website .... " The Football Association and the Football League have backed a proposal from The National Association of Football Statisticians to downgrade the first 22 years of the FA Cup, to the equivilant of the FA Amateur Cup which commenced in 1893-94, and ran until the 1973-74 season. The years affected run from 1872 to 1893, and the winners of the Cup for those years will not be permitted to claim these successes as FA Cup wins on their official Club websites or publications. Explaining the reasoning, N.A.F.S. Secretary, Dr John Hickson said " Any objective analysis of the early years of the " FA Cup " reveals a large number of " byes ", " walkovers " and hugely one-sided results, and in the modern age, we no longer feel it appropriate that these early incarnations of the greatest Club knockout Cup should be classed as true F.A. Cup Competitions ". He added, " The dominance of Public School Old Boys and Military Clubs in the early years, as well as mis-matches with the early Professional Clubs coming up against "true amateur " sides, does not sit well in the modern professional age ". An FA spokesman endorsed the decision, which is expected to be passed unopposed at next month's FA Council meeting, where the renaming of the Football Association, as the " English Football Association " is also expected to gain approval . Some of the affected downgrading concern Clubs no longer in existance, such as Wanderers, Royal Engineers and Clapton Rovers. David Singleton, West Bromwich Albion's head of media relations said, " We accept this decision with some reluctance, but understand the reasoning behind it " . West Bromwich Albion will no longer be able to claim their 1888 & 1892 victories on their official " Roll of Honour" . Aston Villa, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End are also affected losing one victory each, but the Club most affected is Championship side Blackburn Rovers who will have 5 of their FA Cup wins effectively deleted from the history books. No one at Blackburn Rovers was available for comment, although a source inside the Club said " they were studying the implications of the decision closely, and a statement is expected to be issued in due course ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mattyblue Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Bloody hell, it was only a youth game! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 We're into May now. April 1st was a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 At least we will become an urban myth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerb Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Have you spent the day in the Sean Dyche? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 By the way, who are Clapton Rovers? Do they play in the Burnley and district Sunday league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodrell Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Eric clapton's fantasy team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanks Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, bazza said: By the way, who are Clapton Rovers? Do they play in the Burnley and district Sunday league? No Your thinking of Clampetts Rovers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I suppose it's a bit like going back in time to 1987 and applying todays rules. The team who finished 91st in the league this year, are now a non league club, so I guess you could say, we had better alter the record books to show all the teams who have finished in that lowly position spent some time in the conference. Fantasy land which ever way you look at it of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudtobeblue&white Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Nice one. That’ll make The Scottish Cup the world’s oldest football competition, and the FA will have to change their name to the EFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Stuart said: the FA will have to change their name to the EFA. That’s happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Mattyblue said: That’s happening Sacrilege Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom Madon Posted May 8, 2019 Backroom Share Posted May 8, 2019 Is this actually true? Am I missing something? Thats a farce if so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudtobeblue&white Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Now that the World's oldest club have to take their banner down proclaiming so, the FA will expunge all records prior to the PL, and the top six will be happy, sadly for the Ding's we will still be above them in any "stats". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Amazing that they would willingly throw away our heritage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/28/fa-rebrand-efa-arrogant-2030-world-cup-bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old darwen blue Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Don’t listen to him/her talking a load of bollocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympatheticclaret Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, lraC said: I suppose it's a bit like going back in time to 1987 and applying todays rules. The team who finished 91st in the league this year, are now a non league club, so I guess you could say, we had better alter the record books to show all the teams who have finished in that lowly position spent some time in the conference. Fantasy land which ever way you look at it of course. You could do that, but it was Torquay who finished 91st in the Football League that season ....... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudtobeblue&white Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, old darwen blue said: Don’t listen to him/her talking a load of bollocks. It? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyian Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, sympatheticclaret said: An Exclusive reported on-line on the " Independent's " website .... " The Football Association and the Football League have backed a proposal from The National Association of Football Statisticians to downgrade the first 22 years of the FA Cup, to the equivilant of the FA Amateur Cup which commenced in 1893-94, and ran until the 1973-74 season. The years affected run from 1872 to 1893, and the winners of the Cup for those years will not be permitted to claim these successes as FA Cup wins on their official Club websites or publications. Explaining the reasoning, N.A.F.S. Secretary, Dr John Hickson said " Any objective analysis of the early years of the " FA Cup " reveals a large number of " byes ", " walkovers " and hugely one-sided results, and in the modern age, we no longer feel it appropriate that these early incarnations of the greatest Club knockout Cup should be classed as true F.A. Cup Competitions ". He added, " The dominance of Public School Old Boys and Military Clubs in the early years, as well as mis-matches with the early Professional Clubs coming up against "true amateur " sides, does not sit well in the modern professional age ". An FA spokesman endorsed the decision, which is expected to be passed unopposed at next month's FA Council meeting, where the renaming of the Football Association, as the " English Football Association " is also expected to gain approval . Some of the affected downgrading concern Clubs no longer in existance, such as Wanderers, Royal Engineers and Clapton Rovers. David Singleton, West Bromwich Albion's head of media relations said, " We accept this decision with some reluctance, but understand the reasoning behind it " . West Bromwich Albion will no longer be able to claim their 1888 & 1892 victories on their official " Roll of Honour" . Aston Villa, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End are also affected losing one victory each, but the Club most affected is Championship side Blackburn Rovers who will have 5 of their FA Cup wins effectively deleted from the history books. No one at Blackburn Rovers was available for comment, although a source inside the Club said " they were studying the implications of the decision closely, and a statement is expected to be issued in due course ". 'Kin hell you're trying a Jon Agnew/Geoff Boycott wind up. Fair play. Posters will fall for it big time ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Mattyblue said: Amazing that they would willingly throw away our heritage https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/28/fa-rebrand-efa-arrogant-2030-world-cup-bid It’s not arrogance, it’s copyright! Nothing is sacred anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1st Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, sympatheticclaret said: An Exclusive reported on-line on the " Independent's " website .... " The Football Association and the Football League have backed a proposal from The National Association of Football Statisticians to downgrade the first 22 years of the FA Cup, to the equivilant of the FA Amateur Cup which commenced in 1893-94, and ran until the 1973-74 season. The years affected run from 1872 to 1893, and the winners of the Cup for those years will not be permitted to claim these successes as FA Cup wins on their official Club websites or publications. Explaining the reasoning, N.A.F.S. Secretary, Dr John Hickson said " Any objective analysis of the early years of the " FA Cup " reveals a large number of " byes ", " walkovers " and hugely one-sided results, and in the modern age, we no longer feel it appropriate that these early incarnations of the greatest Club knockout Cup should be classed as true F.A. Cup Competitions ". He added, " The dominance of Public School Old Boys and Military Clubs in the early years, as well as mis-matches with the early Professional Clubs coming up against "true amateur " sides, does not sit well in the modern professional age ". An FA spokesman endorsed the decision, which is expected to be passed unopposed at next month's FA Council meeting, where the renaming of the Football Association, as the " English Football Association " is also expected to gain approval . Some of the affected downgrading concern Clubs no longer in existance, such as Wanderers, Royal Engineers and Clapton Rovers. David Singleton, West Bromwich Albion's head of media relations said, " We accept this decision with some reluctance, but understand the reasoning behind it " . West Bromwich Albion will no longer be able to claim their 1888 & 1892 victories on their official " Roll of Honour" . Aston Villa, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End are also affected losing one victory each, but the Club most affected is Championship side Blackburn Rovers who will have 5 of their FA Cup wins effectively deleted from the history books. No one at Blackburn Rovers was available for comment, although a source inside the Club said " they were studying the implications of the decision closely, and a statement is expected to be issued in due course ". Don't care; I'll still bore the fans of other clubs with the question, "Which is the only club to have won one or other of England's two major Cups in each of the last three Centuries?"? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old darwen blue Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 And the best one, which is the only club to be founder members of the Football League and the Premier League and to have won both? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 A straw clutching dingle don't you just love it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songman Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, sympatheticclaret said: An Exclusive reported on-line on the " Independent's " website .... " The Football Association and the Football League have backed a proposal from The National Association of Football Statisticians to downgrade the first 22 years of the FA Cup, to the equivilant of the FA Amateur Cup which commenced in 1893-94, and ran until the 1973-74 season. The years affected run from 1872 to 1893, and the winners of the Cup for those years will not be permitted to claim these successes as FA Cup wins on their official Club websites or publications. Explaining the reasoning, N.A.F.S. Secretary, Dr John Hickson said " Any objective analysis of the early years of the " FA Cup " reveals a large number of " byes ", " walkovers " and hugely one-sided results, and in the modern age, we no longer feel it appropriate that these early incarnations of the greatest Club knockout Cup should be classed as true F.A. Cup Competitions ". He added, " The dominance of Public School Old Boys and Military Clubs in the early years, as well as mis-matches with the early Professional Clubs coming up against "true amateur " sides, does not sit well in the modern professional age ". An FA spokesman endorsed the decision, which is expected to be passed unopposed at next month's FA Council meeting, where the renaming of the Football Association, as the " English Football Association " is also expected to gain approval . Some of the affected downgrading concern Clubs no longer in existance, such as Wanderers, Royal Engineers and Clapton Rovers. David Singleton, West Bromwich Albion's head of media relations said, " We accept this decision with some reluctance, but understand the reasoning behind it " . West Bromwich Albion will no longer be able to claim their 1888 & 1892 victories on their official " Roll of Honour" . Aston Villa, Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End are also affected losing one victory each, but the Club most affected is Championship side Blackburn Rovers who will have 5 of their FA Cup wins effectively deleted from the history books. No one at Blackburn Rovers was available for comment, although a source inside the Club said " they were studying the implications of the decision closely, and a statement is expected to be issued in due course ". Your a league above us, forget about us like we did you for the best part of 20 year. Watched the Everton game Friday night and could only hear anti rovers chants. It still really hurts you doesn't it.... Edited May 8, 2019 by Songman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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