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4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not sure I swallow this line about him being hindered by a shambles of a season. I think I would only really buy into it if it was a blip/poorer season within his career, rather than by quite a distance his best to date.

He always played with a partner, whether it was Graham, Emnes or Joao, and he had (a couple of years and at the start of the season especially, an in form) Conway and Marshall playing quite a few crosses, and our side in general was obviously primarily dysfunctional defensively rather than offensively, hence the pile up of 3-2 defeats. His goal return of around 1 in 4 was fairly respectable if very unspectacular.

He was actually far better under Coyle than under Mowbray, where he often played wide towards the end when the goals dried up, something I fear may be replicated if he is played there again.

He definitely has something to his game, hes easily our second best striker, he is fairly quick and although he cant win a flick on to save his life, he has a really good header on him if hes attacking the goal and gets a yard on his man. He was forever offside, often lacked intelligence (somewhat understandable at the age he came in at, but nothing to suggest hes developed since) hes obviously nowhere near prolific at this level and he cant hold the ball up at all.

I'm also unsure that he fits into this supposed technical side Mowbray wants to play, he is quite ungainly and clumsy and technical ability doesnt rank as one of his best attributes.

All this being said, my main gripes with the deal are the cost baring in mind our frailites elsewhere, rather than with the actual player. But he wouldnt get into my team v Charlton.

A genuine concern.

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1 hour ago, den said:

The academy is there for the future.  £12m spent in this league, by a club like ours must provide first team regulars.  There really can’t be any arguments with that. 

 

I totally agree Den. A £12m investment with the first team should hopefully produce a future profit. 

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3 hours ago, Stuart said:

Interesting points.

It seems a little like Mowbray is building for 2020/21 but forgetting a little about 2019/20.

We have no divine right to think that we can be promoted by planning slowly and methodically any more than we have to believe that we can get away with not planning for this season and not flirt with relegation. And right now we have a relegation-battle standard back 5.

IMHO:

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Black = gone; Red = planning without; blue = current first team; white = understudy; orange = challenging for squad place (yes, Williams is listed twice).

I just can’t see how we can fit Adam and Butterfield into that already congested midfield - even if Smallwood and Evans left - unless Mowbray has already written off Butterworth and Buckley.

I would bet they are well down his pecking  order.  One or both will have to have a Travisesque opportunity to force Mowbary to have to take a longer look.  I am firmly in the camp the believes we would not have seen Travis again for some time had it not been for Richie's red card.

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12 minutes ago, tonygreenbank said:

I totally agree Den. A £12m investment with the first team should hopefully produce a future profit. 

Pretty sure he's not talking about future profit, but first team regulars now.

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Just now, bluebruce said:

Pretty sure he's not talking about future profit, but first team regulars now.

Perhaps I’m not making myself clear but the £12m investment in first team regulars might well ensure future profits.

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After years of moving on loan from club to club let's hope Gallagher can put down some roots and blossom into a decent player. Gallagher and Brereton up front with Dack operating between them might work. What I do not want to see is Gallagher playing as one of Mowbray's quasi winger /wide players. 

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8 hours ago, AAK said:

I am presuming thats your status pal with the greenbank name, can i give myself a pat on the back for my columbo skills?

He gives his location as Cornwall so try again?

 

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2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

After years of moving on loan from club to club let's hope Gallagher can put down some roots and blossom into a decent player. Gallagher and Brereton up front with Dack operating between them might work. What I do not want to see is Gallagher playing as one of Mowbray's quasi winger /wide players. 

You are going to be disappointed then jim I'm afraid.

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4 hours ago, roverandout said:

I will get behind the club when venkyscum clear off. As it is mowbary is a useless clueless manager, his signings are mediocre to say the least. Johnson could turn out to be a decent signing but his priorities are all wrong. Defence. Defence, defence. His scattergun approach is baffling. Dean Smith had the ability at Brentford to pick a player, maupay being a good example. Mowbary has no imagination. He just goes for former players and players he's worked with. He's a clown. We need a manager that can inovate 

Brentford wanted Gallagher

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Like the lad, he likes it here - about as close as we're probably gonna get for a Graham replacement right now. DG is still head and shoulders the man at the front but at his age, this can change almost overnight. 

In isolation the signing is a good one - in my opinion anyway. Just bring in a CB (or two) and a GK and this moany old fcker will shut up til January.

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6 hours ago, USABlue said:

I would bet they are well down his pecking  order.  One or both will have to have a Travisesque opportunity to force Mowbary to have to take a longer look.  I am firmly in the camp the believes we would not have seen Travis again for some time had it not been for Richie's red card.

Completely agree. He absolutely forced his way in. Yet Mowbray still continues to increase the competition for Travis.

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Good news. Now let's step up the search for a keeper and some much needed defensive reinforcements. Ideally a CB and LB

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Because he wanted to sign him last summer but missed out. Ergo the Gallagher ‘pot’ for a young, English forward went on BB in the dying embers of the window.

All in my humble, non ITK opinion, of course.

Edited by Mattyblue

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14 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

New

New Lenihan New Williams

Rothwell Dack Johnno

Arma Graham Gally

 

Like Balajis total football 

For me I only really see Lenihan as first choice and I prefer William's at CB over LB. But he ain't good enough to play at CB all season

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

Because he wanted to sign him last summer but missed out. Ergo the Gallagher ‘pot’ for a young, English forward went on BB in the dying embers of the window.

All in my humble, non ITK opinion, of course.

Fair enough. Unlikely in my opinion (which is probably less ITK than yours).

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Why unlikely? 

What seems unlikely to me is buying an English £7million young 6 foot plus forward in the same summer of purchasing another English 6 foot plus forward for £5million.

But maybe you’re right and that was the plan, it would’ve been some statement of intent for a club straight out of the third division, though odd priorities, no?

 

Edited by Mattyblue

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I think that Mowbray really likes Gallagher but missed out on him for various reasons. I think scouts gave him glowing reports about Brereton and recommended signing him as a player with rich potential on being told that he might be available. I don't see the owners sanctioning the Gallagher transfer if Brereton was signed as an alternative and is yet to make an impact. That would, in essence, make Gallagher a 12m signing.

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I’m looking at it the other way, if SG had signed, BB would still just be that lad at Forest who ran past Liam Feeney at the City Ground.

Edited by Mattyblue

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

I’m looking at it the other way, if SG had signed, BB would still just be that lad at Forest who ran past Liam Feeney at the City Ground.

I hope you're correct. If you are then we have quite generous owners.

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We’ll see at the close of the window, let’s await these defenders, net spend of about £1.5 million thus far...

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Just now, Mattyblue said:

We’ll see at the close of the window, let’s await these defenders, net spend of about £1.5 million thus far...

Your maths is out. About 8.5m for the Brereton/Gallagher hybrid 😉

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