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11 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

I know hope springs eternal but having watched the Bournemouth game I have to say I like the new system which is quite a radical departure from where we were for most of last season, we've actually got quite a lot of good attacking players, so am interested to see if Tony and the team have turned a corner. 

Desperately needs some quality defenders though or it's all for naught.

Joey, for all our attacking prowess we had two shots on goal on Saturday. One I could have kept out.

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Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

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Just now, Mercer said:

Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

All of the above, then lose.

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

I think to be honest you are dammed if you do or dammed if you don't at the moment. He's trying something new, it looked pretty good against Bournemouth, let's see how it goes next few games.

Prefer that to just hiding away with a defensive game.

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Performance was ok, I think a side like Bournemouth will always allow you to play a bit of football though so we probably looked a bit better than we probably are.

Still, we only had two shots on target in the whole game, and we still conceded 3.

So nothing new really one game in.

Still though, I'm more intrigued to see how we go next week against Wycombe who will probably sit in, and look to pick us off with set pieces a bit like Luton did at Ewood last season.

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44 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

I think to be honest you are dammed if you do or dammed if you don't at the moment. He's trying something new, it looked pretty good against Bournemouth, let's see how it goes next few games.

Prefer that to just hiding away with a defensive game.

This.

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37 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Performance was ok, I think a side like Bournemouth will always allow you to play a bit of football though so we probably looked a bit better than we probably are.

Still, we only had two shots on target in the whole game, and we still conceded 3.

So nothing new really one game in.

Still though, I'm more intrigued to see how we go next week against Wycombe who will probably sit in, and look to pick us off with set pieces a bit like Luton did at Ewood last season.

I agree I think that's where having a flexible approach could help. If a team sits in going 4231 or 4411 could help using whoever is at  the 10 role to unlock.

But then I suppose if they sit back we can still press them hard in 433 and get them to make mistakes and turn over the ball.

I know they're a trillion times better than us, but Liverpool hardly struggled to break teams down in a 433, they were just relentless.

I guess we will just see how it works. Probably other teams will work out best thing against us, no matter the vaguries of the formation, is to just hoof it as we are so weak under a high ball or running back towards our goal.

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2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

If he comes out and does not make a bullish statement before a game he has been criticised; now if he comes out and does make a bullish statement he is getting criticised for that ! Things are just getting silly.

Edited by Mashed Potatoes

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2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

 Steve Bruce team talk: "We should get a hatful against their crap defence but watch out for their intensity"

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He’s probably saying this so he has an excuse to go back to long balls to Gallagher in the wing when we get beaten again 🙄

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10 hours ago, Mercer said:

Mowbray in LT on Newcastle:

“We’ll go to Newcastle and do what we did against Bournemouth, ask questions of them, play on the front foot and see whether they can live with the intensity we’re trying to find.”

I really do think our manager is delusional and has lost the plot.

 

I seem to remember Souness losing the plot a bit before leaving... One can only hope. 

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1 hour ago, Dan said:

I seem to remember Souness losing the plot a bit before leaving... One can only hope. 

souness lost the plot by falling out with everyone and offering them all out,hard to imagine mowbray going beserk and pinning bennett to the dressing room wall☺️

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5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

souness lost the plot by falling out with everyone and offering them all out,hard to imagine mowbray going beserk and pinning bennett to the dressing room wall☺️

True! But he could start playing him up front like Dino Baggio :lol:

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A few of us have been arguing for a while that Mowbray needed 10 games of the new season to galvanise the current squad and see if can squeeze a bit more out, the majority on here wanted him sacked.

It’s very early days, I don’t think we have the squad to go up, we’re 2/3 players short, but that’s not Mowbray fault, he can only wee with the willy he’s got.

Great start to the season Tony, long may it continue :tu:

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Tonight he needs a ten year after extension. In a few weeks he'll probably need sacking again.

That's the way it rolls 🤣

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If our preseason and competitive performances are anything to go by, then Mogga deserves every credit. We've looked dominant and pretty damn slick! Loving it.

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1 hour ago, JoeH said:

When you think about our 2016/17 trip to Derby County (where we did actually win), and you look at the squad that we took... it’s actually so relieving and exciting to think about where we are now. Some of the players in the match day squad: 

Jason Steele
Jason Lowe
Danny Guthrie
Gordon Greer
Hope Akpan
Wes Brown
Liam Feeney 

Then you fast forward to now, in the 2020/21. Our squad, the way we play, the press and the passion and the inensity. The skill on the ball and the high calibre players.

If you’d have told me we’d have the likes of Lewis Holtby and Daniel Ayala knocking around our team, and we’d be scoring 11 goals in 3 games this season, back at the end of the 2016/17 relegation season, I’d have laughed you off the forum.

We’ve come a long way, and I haven’t even touched on the youth progression side of things either. Tony Mowbray has absolutely revolutionised this football club, it’s philosophies and has only ever sold ONE important player at the club in 8 transfer windows.

Not so fair a comparison. One given three years with no sales and a good budget, the other sells his best players with no replacements. 

Go back a further year for a team of Gestede, Rhodes, Ciarney, Conway, Marshall, Hanley, King and Duffy and you see we have had a strong championship team before (how the hell that team never even got playoffs is a travesty). Progression compared with this team in terms of quality is much less pronounced. 

That said am I glad we are where we are than under Owen Clueless - too right. Not defending Clueless as a manager at all, just saying it's not a fair comparison. 

And fair comparison or not I also appreciate that we are in a better position than that year. 

I also think while Bowyer was better at spotting players TM would have got the Rhodes et al squad into the playoffs. 

And as another aside from this comparison it's interesting that of  Bowyer's unfulfilled potential team Evans is the only one still here (I think). 

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Whatever Tony and co. have done over the last few weeks, they should carry on doing it. Just need Ayala to fit into the team and then a left back and backup keeper.

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3 hours ago, Blue blood said:

 And fair comparison or not I also appreciate that we are in a better position than that year. 

I also think while Bowyer was better at spotting players TM would have got the Rhodes et al squad into the playoffs. 

And as another aside from this comparison it's interesting that of  Bowyer's unfulfilled potential team Evans is the only one still here (I think). 

 

Good way of summing things up. I think whilst there have been valid criticisms of TM's selection policy, there's no way that he would have stuck to the rigid 442 which might have suited some of our squad, contributed to letting King & Judge slip through our fingers. 

Agree that we shouldn't forget Bowyer's incredible ability to spot good value players. Cairney, O'Connell, Rudy, Conway, Marshall, Duffy, Judge, Evans and Spurr for about half a Sam Gallagher. Then again, he also brought in Steele, Brown and Varney, so it just goes to show that you can't win them all. 

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