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18 minutes ago, tomphil said:

A decade in football is a lifetime and the elements he had then are way different to now, as is the difference between elite quality in Philips and bog standard in Armo.

Means feck all now any of that pal, sorry.

Yes I agree tomphil, I was just making the point he has taken a team out of this division.

I said at the back end of last season that he should get 10 games to see if he change things, in my opinion he's certainly done that.

The biggest criticism of Mowbray on here was he never goes for the win, well thats not the case this season so far! He was also criticized for not bringing in any decent defenders, he's hopefully addresses that issue to.

Its still very early in the season, we look a good side going forward, if he fixes the backline we could do something this season and I never thought I'd be saying that at the back end of last season.

Keep the faith.

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38 minutes ago, 47er said:

Yes. We've all to our views about Chaddy but none of us would wish that on him. I suppose on reflection one of us might, which is a disturbing thought. more likely to be someone on Twitter.

Chin up Chaddy, we know that's not you!

A lot of his posts on Twitter seem to be trump/biden related, so wondering if he is a yank. 

But yeah, Chaddy winds a few up but this is bang out of order whoever is doing this. 

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26 minutes ago, Gav said:

Yes I agree tomphil, I was just making the point he has taken a team out of this division.

I said at the back end of last season that he should get 10 games to see if he change things, in my opinion he's certainly done that.

The biggest criticism of Mowbray on here was he never goes for the win, well thats not the case this season so far! He was also criticized for not bringing in any decent defenders, he's hopefully addresses that issue to.

Its still very early in the season, we look a good side going forward, if he fixes the backline we could do something this season and I never thought I'd be saying that at the back end of last season.

Keep the faith.

Agree with much of it most of my moaning has been because of the timid Bowyeresqe nature of this managers approach too often.  Said many times all i wanted to see was us genuinely having a go over the season i feel he's on the right track in that regard.

I'd much rather this approach than drawing every week and hear a manager jacking off on the old unbeaten run line. It'll have its ups and downs like we are seeing, elated one min tearing your hair out next but to me that's what football is about. Mundane crap can be shoved where the sun doesn't shine !

Problem with TM is he's never ever shown himself to be someone who can find balance, any balance never mind the the right one.  It's wearing thin now he's had god knows how many windows and enough backing to see us looking to break upwards from the middle pack. His repeated blind spots and stubborness in regards to certain players will be the undoing again imo but we'll see.

He's been good at proving us wrong when we've thought all is lost but just not good enough in proving he's the man for the ultimate goal.

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I also think that if it was as simple as having a slow build then every club in the country would do it, rather than firing their manager and trying to appoint better.

Having said that I think the frustration comes because we can all see how close we get, but we're constantly undone by either individual errors or tinkering. But the fact these individual errors have been happening since Tony took charge it's hard to not point the finger.

The league this year is much weaker than previous seasons, and with the games coming so thick and fast any team that can stay injury free and show any semblance of consistency will get out of this league. Just can't see us being that team as we can't seem to do either of those things. 

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42 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

A lot of his posts on Twitter seem to be trump/biden related, so wondering if he is a yank. 

But yeah, Chaddy winds a few up but this is bang out of order whoever is doing this. 

Yeah it was totally out of order. I knew Chaddy wouldn't have posted that right away. A guy who posts on here from time to time managed to alter one of my posts to totally change the meaning of what I intended to say. You've got to be a complete tosser to do stuff like that. It's the only time I've complained to the Mods about another member of any of the forums I'm on.

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28 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

What's Chaddy posted that's controversial?

The point is, he hasn't. He has obviously had his Twitter account and his account here hacked.

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36 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

What's Chaddy posted that's controversial?

Loads of stuff previously,  but the porn star stuff wasn't from him.

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Fucking hell Tony:

"Joe Rothwell, he turned up today and his back was really sore. Whether he’s been isolating for those 10 days and has just been laying on a sofa, I’m not sure"

Is this the sort of manager we want... not for me.

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15 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Plenty of games left. This league is wide open.

How many times have we heard that over the last ten years. Some people never learn

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48 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

The point is, he hasn't. He has obviously had his Twitter account and his account here hacked.

If he's been working and left his desk top / laptop open, work colleagues are notorious for pranks. 

Sounds like some of the stuff is a bit more than a prank though - sadly, there are folk like that around.

 Didn't Chaddy recently say he works some night shifts?

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52 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

The point is, he hasn't. He has obviously had his Twitter account and his account here hacked.

Oh right, that's serious. How does the average person hack an account? 

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44 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Loads of stuff previously,  but the porn star stuff wasn't from him.

I didn't see it, wasn't sure what everyone was on about. Not good. 

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37 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Fucking hell Tony:

"Joe Rothwell, he turned up today and his back was really sore. Whether he’s been isolating for those 10 days and has just been laying on a sofa, I’m not sure"

Is this the sort of manager we want... not for me.

Jeeeeesus you can’t say that, has he lost the plot? He wouldn’t say that about one of his favourites, complete bully.

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34 minutes ago, broadsword said:

How many times have we heard that over the last ten years. Some people never learn

Aye, we'll be hearing the same this time next season.

We have now progressed to mediocrity + . Results and points wise it's the same as mediocrity, just with added goals.

We still can't defend and are still mentally weak when it comes to games with any kind of pressure on them.

We also have a manager who can't resist tinkering for the sake of it.

Round and round it goes.

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5 hours ago, Gav said:

 

I’m sure someone posted Tyrhys Dolan on the Covid thread on the other side of the forum last night, completely out of the blue referring to chaddy, the mods have removed it, hopefully they know who the culprit is.

Some spineless faceless bedroom dwelling no mark no doubt.

As for Mowbray, the good news is we’ve time to sort out the defence, still very early days.

The bad news is, he’s been trying for 3yrs!

He's been trying to sort out defences throughout his managerial career.

He usually fails.

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I'd give him until the international break. 

Swansea, Middlesbrough, QPR. 

By then we will be a quarter through the season. 11 games. If we don't get a couple of wins from them or if we lose two or more of them then we are at the sort of stage where a serious club would be taking action.

E.g. if we reach 11 games and only have 10, 11, 12, 13 points on the board then that is basically 1 point per game and normally barely enough to survive. Not good enough.

Probably fortunate this season with Wycombe being so bad and Wednesday starting on minus 12. 

 

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I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but you can all ‘give him until x’, it doesn’t matter as there’s not a chance he’s going anywhere this season.

He’s got a deal for another season after this and he’ll see his contract out (staring relegation in the face would be the only possible exception).

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3 hours ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Fucking hell Tony:

"Joe Rothwell, he turned up today and his back was really sore. Whether he’s been isolating for those 10 days and has just been laying on a sofa, I’m not sure"

Is this the sort of manager we want... not for me.

Shoulder shrug, you win some you lose some, sometimes players tell the truth sometimes they don't. Life goes on and we all still get paid.

The world according to Mr blasie 

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2 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said:

He's been trying to sort out defences throughout his managerial career.

He usually fails.

Which is strange Asia being a defender himself....

Lets hope he goes one better this time. 

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1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but you can all ‘give him until x’, it doesn’t matter as there’s not a chance he’s going anywhere this season.

He’s got a deal for another season after this and he’ll see his contract out (staring relegation in the face would be the only possible exception).

You're probably right...but you never know. He has been well backed financially again and talks about having the team he wants now. There was a slight feeling of going for broke on deadline day which might suggest some pressure has been applied. 

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1 minute ago, Gamst said:

You're probably right...but you never know. He has been well backed financially again and talks about having the team he wants now. There was a slight feeling of going for broke on deadline day which might suggest some pressure has been applied. 

Mowbray might have the team that he wants, but its not the defence we need.

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