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Just now, danger19_80 said:

Different teams/tactics though. I agree it's worrying but he needs at least 10 games for things to settle before pushing the panic button imo.

The 10 game rule is gaining traction.

To save going through 10 games, 3 months, until Christmas, after the January Window rinse and repeat ritual lets just accept that Mowbray is here until HE doesn't want to be. 

He's in a Godfather position.

Be scared.

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Just now, tonyoz said:

I'm a Lenihan fan so I won't argue there. I disagree with your second paragraph though...……...we really haven't looked like scoring so far this season (own goals excepted). Gallagher is not the answer IMO. As someone else intimated earlier...……...it's a wee bit embarrassing having 12 million on the bench and sending Danny on to do the business!

On the contrary, it sounds like we mostly agree that it's a personnel choice. Fair to say that if Graham was on the pitch instead of Gallagher a few of the crosses we put in may have found their way into the net? Or perhaps he manages to lay off a ball to Dack for a clear strike on goal. 

It's funny because even though there has been criticism of TM not putting players into the team from the get go, I actually think we would have been better off with Graham up front for these first few matches and integrating Gallagher after we had a few points on the board and a bit of confidence flowing. Now granted even with Graham on the pitch we may have lost to both Charlton and Fulham, but I think we'd have had a better shots on target ratio than 8%. 

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Just now, DE. said:

On the contrary, it sounds like we mostly agree that it's a personnel choice. Fair to say that if Graham was on the pitch instead of Gallagher a few of the crosses we put in may have found their way into the net? Or perhaps he manages to lay off a ball to Dack for a clear strike on goal. 

It's funny because even though there has been criticism of TM not putting players into the team from the get go, I actually think we would have been better off with Graham up front for these first few matches and integrating Gallagher after we had a few points on the board and a bit of confidence flowing. Now granted even with Graham on the pitch we may have lost to both Charlton and Fulham, but I think we'd have had a better shots on target ratio than 8%. 

I'm also a Graham fan by the way...……………….heh heh!

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Just now, danger19_80 said:

Different teams/tactics though. I agree it's worrying but he needs at least 10 games for things to settle before pushing the panic button imo.

Few different players yes, not seen anything in the 2 games to suggest different tactics as yet.

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Just now, Paul Mellelieu said:

The poor run, immediately after TM won manager of the month, coincided with Lenihan's injury.  Taken as a whole the season was a success.  Can TM take us to challenge for promotion?  I don't know, but I think he deserves a chance, and less of the name-calling that is a permanent feature here.  He isn't a Keane or Coyle, or Kidd for that matter.  

I've never really been a fan, certainly wouldn't call him names though. Big few weeks ahead for him.

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Just now, tonyoz said:

I'm also a Graham fan by the way...……………….heh heh!

He's got a strike rate of just over 1/3 for us in the league so we all should be really!

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4 hours ago, Mercer said:

I think there will be goals galore. 

Just stuck £25 on more than 4.5 goals at 5/1.

Sunk a few earlier today at Clitheroe Food Festival (seemed a better proposition than PNE v Wigan) and now off to local - think it's going to be a long afternoon in more ways than one!

Well you’ve maintained your 100% record 😁

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Just now, Songman said:

Few different players yes, not seen anything in the 2 games to suggest different tactics as yet.

Walton, Tosin, Johnson, Gallagher...the whole spine of the team is different

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The quote "that's football" has really pi55ed me off. It's not "football" it's pure naivety of a sub standard manager who needs to start getting tough! 

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Just now, renrag said:

Well you’ve maintained your 100% record 😁

Feckin good job the nags do a job for me !

Just as Goodwood was glorious just a short time ago, Ascot today was awesome.  Netted a wonderful hat trick with Stone Of Destiny, Power Of Darkness and Sapa Inca.  That's one hat trick more than either Brereton or Gallagher will deliver this season !

As I keep saying, my Rovers' betting is a bit of fun only though my Mowbray bet @ 19/1 on being the first Championship manager to go is looking pretty tasty !

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41 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

I've judged him over the last three seasons and he's done well for us.  Is he a world-beater, probably not, but neither are Blackburn Rovers anymore.

He hasn't done well for the last 10 months or so since Preston away.

He's taking us down I'm afraid. Shades of Hodgson where he was poor in the preceding season and it continued into the following season culminating in his dismissal.

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9 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

Eh? Have you replied to the wrong post?

You said that our defensive frailties aren't down to the personnel, yet the two centre backs today were good - far better than last week's two. Are some wires getting crossed on my part?

I meant to say Williams and Adarabioyo in my last sentence in the original reply.

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12 minutes ago, DE. said:

17 points from 57 (19 games). 

He’s not going to get fired for a bunch of defeats that were mostly in Feb/March.

If we’d added the second half of 93/94 to the first half of 94/95, we’d have won the league by ten points. Second half of 94/95 and first half of 95/96 and we wouldn’t have been in the top half.

The only stat that counts in P2 L2.

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Just now, Exiled in Toronto said:

He’s not going to get fired for a bunch of defeats that were mostly in Feb/March.

If we’d added the second half of 93/94 to the first half of 94/95, we’d have won the league by ten points. Second half of 94/95 and first half of 95/96 and we wouldn’t have been in the top half.

The only stat that counts in P2 L2.

A manager who had a poor second half of a previous season don’t usually start with a total clean slate in August. Their card is marked to a certain degree. 

Kidd, Harford, Hodgson et al weren’t potted just for a poor start to that season.

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Just now, Mercer said:

Feckin good job the nags do a job for me !

Just as Goodwood was glorious just a short time ago, Ascot today was awesome.  Netted a wonderful hat trick with Stone Of Destiny, Power Of Darkness and Sapa Inca.  That's one hat trick more than either Brereton or Gallagher will deliver this season !

As I keep saying, my Rovers' betting is a bit of fun only though my Mowbray bet @ 19/1 on being the first Championship manager to go is looking pretty tasty !

You could post your slips, some people might think you're not being truthful based on your lack of success on the footie. 

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Just now, OnePhilT said:

You said that our defensive frailties aren't down to the personnel, yet the two centre backs today were good - far better than last week's two. Are some wires getting crossed on my part?

I meant to say Williams and Adarabioyo in my last sentence in the original reply.

Think RV means more down to manager than personnel. How I read it anyway and is sensible!

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Just now, tonyoz said:

Well my friends, it's 4 am here so time for bed. Thanks for the banter.

Sleep well

 

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Just now, ossyian said:

Think RV means more down to manager than personnel. How I read it anyway and is sensible!

Yes - that's how I understood it. Which is why I pointed out that the two centre backs today performed superbly in comparison to the two last week. So it can't just be down to defensive tactics.. can it? Mulgrew was a converted centre back and designated leader. Today, without him, we were far better, and I think that's a positive to take from the game. Today's failings weren't at the back for me.

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Well I'm waiting until 10 games before I make a judgement as to the manager. 

I would start with Graham and Cunningham next game. 

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Just now, OnePhilT said:

Yes - that's how I understood it. Which is why I pointed out that the two centre backs today performed superbly in comparison to the two last week. So it can't just be down to defensive tactics.. can it? Mulgrew was a converted centre back and designated leader. Today, without him, we were far better, and I think that's a positive to take from the game. Today's failings weren't at the back for me.

And despite all this we still conceded 2 goals. Of the current squad it doesn't matter who plays there as none of them are up to the required standard and that is due to Mowbray's failings in the transfer market, again.

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Saw only the second half but the same meaningless attacks conjuring up absolutely nothing meaningful and questions all over the pitch.

Walton is a bag of nerves in net, rooted to his line at crosses. The defensive situation is unforgivably negligent. Lenihan with yet another injury and we are left with 2 centre backs (who looked ok but concentration is a constant issue regardless of personnel) backed up by a kid who couldnt get on the bench at Stanley. Full backs useless, Bell hasnt got a brain and Bennett at fault for yet another goal. Need Cunningham and Nyambe in right away.

Thought Johnson was as bad today as he was impressive last week. The wide area is a dilemma in itself. Why is Chapman so far away from the squad? What is Mowbrays obsession with strikers who cannot play wide being stuck there? Armstrong is a constant but again he was really ineffective.

The striking situation is a joke, 12m for 2 non scoring strikers. Gallagher incredibly ineffective yet again.

Subs a major problem again, we was left with an imbalanced mess that offered nothing by way of a late goal.

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

You could post your slips, some people might think you're not being truthful based on your lack of success on the footie. 

I used to work with a bloke who was similarly successful at backing winners. He just backed most of the horses in the race.

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Just now, OnePhilT said:

Yes - that's how I understood it. Which is why I pointed out that the two centre backs today performed superbly in comparison to the two last week. So it can't just be down to defensive tactics.. can it? Mulgrew was a converted centre back and designated leader. Today, without him, we were far better, and I think that's a positive to take from the game. Today's failings weren't at the back for me.

Have a look at the 2nd goal, Walton and Williams I think

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