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5 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Rhodes scores goals, but we don’t create enough chances, so it would be a waste of a wage really.

Agreed - and as I say, he'd play as a striker on his own. Tony isn't suddenly going 4-4-2 IMO. Rhodes is the least suited striker to being the 'man' up top on his own in the history of football.

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3 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Agreed - and as I say, he'd play as a striker on his own. Tony isn't suddenly going 4-4-2 IMO. Rhodes is the least suited striker to being the 'man' up top on his own in the history of football.

Though we've become accustomed to playing with 10 men in most games.

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11 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Agreed - and as I say, he'd play as a striker on his own. Tony isn't suddenly going 4-4-2 IMO. Rhodes is the least suited striker to being the 'man' up top on his own in the history of football.

That's right, when he was here he had Conway and Marshall on the wings, for the majority of his time here, who were very good for at least a couple of seasons, at times he also had a big man to play off in Gestede, and on occasions Brown (who was good at that role, but just couldn't score). In his first season he also had the brilliant Nuno Gomes as a partner for parts of the season.

Fast forward to now, and we have no wingers, but maybe Gallagher could work in a partnership with him.

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15 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Agreed - and as I say, he'd play as a striker on his own. Tony isn't suddenly going 4-4-2 IMO. Rhodes is the least suited striker to being the 'man' up top on his own in the history of football.

Bit of a myth that - Rhodes first season here he mainly played up front on his own.

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On 13/01/2020 at 21:29, bob fleming said:

This. Along with 4000’s post. Why buy two strikers for so much money if it was never the intention to play them both, in their normal position at the same time? Why buy so many midfielders when apparently there isn’t one amongst them that can play the Dack role? 

Fully understand that you go with one up front when Dack is fit, but don’t we “need to have different ways of playing”?

Putting Brereton and Gallagher out wide does neither of them any favours - evidently. I’ve said it for months (not on here admittedly!) but no defence would fancy playing against Graham and Gallagher with a team whipping crosses into the box. Or Arma, maybe even Brereton would benefit from playing with a strike partner (why haven’t we even tried this?). We just don’t have that in our locker it would appear. Downing can cross a ball though. Rankin Costello? Chapman? But your limiting your options when there’s only one striker to aim at.

I’d go 4-4-2 and to hell with it. Get organised, disciplined, stick to the system and let the other team worry about us for a change. Wide men drop back in when we don’t have the ball and help the full backs / midfield. 

Far too sensible for Tone and doesn't allow for any use of his tombola drum. Mowbray out. Bob Fleming in today.

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11 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

What was his budget? Buttons compared to mowbrays mega shop infact are we even sure he signed the players but chaddy you seem to know the budget? Let’s be honest here Coyle arrived by HSH (Dave Sheron) also whom came was Joao, Hendrie, Stokes all HSH clients.

Mowbray is apparently HSH, Jordan Jones who we are now linked with is HSH albeit via a solicitor type the same who signed off Hendrie and co, Peter Whittington HSH, Harry Chapman HSH, Smallwood is HSH. 

We also seemingly can not shake of Simon Conning Premier/Crown football and his boat full of shit players; Luke Varney, Cristian Walton, Sam Gallagher, Ryan Nyambe, Tommie Hoban, Anton Forrester, Ben Brereton.

And they’re just the ones of the top of my head. How many would you have in your 11?! For the records messers Sheron, Craig Honeyman, Stephen Horner are all ex SEM under he who shall be named as Jerome.

I couldn’t give two flying f***ks if a manager wears shorts or does a Pulis and dons a baseball cap. It’s hardly the constructing base of a discussion!

No idea on why Warnock isn’t here after Cheston and Co but strongly suspect it’s on align somewhere with the above track records. If it smells fishy it probably is.

....and Lambert was brought to the club by Horner (HSH).

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40 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Rhodes scores goals, but we don’t create enough chances, so it would be a waste of a wage really.

Not sure about that. The issue in the last few games has been that we created,but didnt finish our chances. 

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36 minutes ago, OJRovers said:

Can’t see Rhodes coming, mainly because of the wages.

We’re also starting to see the failings of Mowbray’s policy of buying young players to make a profit. We spent £500k on Samuel and £200k on Bell. For them to leave for nothing at their young ages is really poor management.

What's this about Bell leaving? 

Seems odd letting Samuel leave now at a loss. 

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11 hours ago, Scotland1 said:

What was his budget? Buttons compared to mowbrays mega shop infact are we even sure he signed the players but chaddy you seem to know the budget? Let’s be honest here Coyle arrived by HSH (Dave Sheron) also whom came was Joao, Hendrie, Stokes all HSH clients.

Mowbray is apparently HSH, Jordan Jones who we are now linked with is HSH albeit via a solicitor type the same who signed off Hendrie and co, Peter Whittington HSH, Harry Chapman HSH, Smallwood is HSH. 

We also seemingly can not shake of Simon Conning Premier/Crown football and his boat full of shit players; Luke Varney, Cristian Walton, Sam Gallagher, Ryan Nyambe, Tommie Hoban, Anton Forrester, Ben Brereton.

And they’re just the ones of the top of my head. How many would you have in your 11?! For the records messers Sheron, Craig Honeyman, Stephen Horner are all ex SEM under he who shall be named as Jerome.

I couldn’t give two flying f***ks if a manager wears shorts or does a Pulis and dons a baseball cap. It’s hardly the constructing base of a discussion!

No idea on why Warnock isn’t here after Cheston and Co but strongly suspect it’s on align somewhere with the above track records. If it smells fishy it probably is.

That's horrendous if correct: so Venkys have learned nowt? or don't want to?

It strikes me we're just a 'launderette'.

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But why would Rudy Gestede want to come back here? He is a decent target man alright, and can head the ball (into the net), but really?? We have gone sooooo far backwards since Rudy and Rhodes lit up our front line, and the trouble is, everyone knows it. I don't for one moment think that tinkerman Tony and his Tombola tactical ineptitude are invisible to others within the game. No, for players of that quality to come here, knowing it would be practically career suicide, there would have to be a large financial incentive - which we are not in a position to offer, as far as the evidence appears to show.

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Please, not Rhodes, the only thing that Lambert got right!!!

We do not have the capacity to carry Rhodes with the players we have in our squad. 

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33 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Bit of a myth that - Rhodes first season here he mainly played up front on his own.

All anyone needs to do is watch his goals for Rovers back from the beginning, the build ups as well.  I always said part of GB's rather annoying two deep defensive mids was to draw the opposition on and create space up top.  A . for Rhodes  B. for his wrong sided wingers to cut in.

It was often flawed because teams found it too easy to play through us and he himself had no idea about setting up a good back 4 but if nothing else it got the best out of Rhodes.

And Rudy briefly.

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We've got Brereton (0 goals) and Gallagher (1 goal) along with an aging Graham.

Would I take regular 20+ a season man back here? You bet. Trouble is with this manager he would over complicate things and probably ensure Rhodes struggled to hit the target through odd formations and positions.

Ain't going to happen either way. 

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47 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Bit of a myth that - Rhodes first season here he mainly played up front on his own.

Imo Rhodes did very little but score (though he was very good at that) Gestede and King were a much better pairing, and I believe we may have been promoted if Bowyer had given them a chance to play together more in the league.

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25 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

But why would Rudy Gestede want to come back here? He is a decent target man alright, and can head the ball (into the net), but really?? We have gone sooooo far backwards since Rudy and Rhodes lit up our front line, and the trouble is, everyone knows it. I don't for one moment think that tinkerman Tony and his Tombola tactical ineptitude are invisible to others within the game. No, for players of that quality to come here, knowing it would be practically career suicide, there would have to be a large financial incentive - which we are not in a position to offer, as far as the evidence appears to show.

Talk about revisionist rose tinted glasses. With a splash of negative hyperbole thrown in for good measure! 

21 minutes ago, Doug said:

Please, not Rhodes, the only thing that Lambert got right!!!

We do not have the capacity to carry Rhodes with the players we have in our squad. 

Ya, how could we carry all those goals. 

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18 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Talk about revisionist rose tinted glasses. With a splash of negative hyperbole thrown in for good measure! 

Ya, how could we carry all those goals. 

You obviously never saw him play

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20 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Talk about revisionist rose tinted glasses. With a splash of negative hyperbole thrown in for good measure! 

Ya, how could we carry all those goals. 

Haha! Revisionist rose tinted glasses eh? Please don't tell us you think the team / club has got better since the days of Rhodes and Rudy.. perlease!! As for negative hyperbole, ya, you got me. Mr Negative

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We're so poor at scoring bringing Rhodes back had a lot to recommend it.

But... His around game is non-existant. So if were under the kosh whose going to provide an out ball? I guess we could start playing him and or Gally/Armstrong up front in a two. But then you have less bodies in midfield.

Hmmm. Tough one.

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Just now, WIR Second Coming said:

Haha! Revisionist rose tinted glasses eh? Please don't tell us you think the team / club has got better since the days of Rhodes and Rudy.. perlease!! As for negative hyperbole, ya, you got me. Mr Negative

Are you sure you aren't mixing the names Rhodes and Rudy up with Shearer and Sutton?? 

Rudy and Rhodes were 2 good strikers, but we were no better off than we are now. You do remember the Williamson/Lowe axis in the middle don't you? 

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5 minutes ago, Doug said:

You obviously never saw him play

Ya, I saw him play plenty, as did those who voted him onto the Championship team of the decade. 

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1 hour ago, OJRovers said:

Can’t see Rhodes coming, mainly because of the wages.

We’re also starting to see the failings of Mowbray’s policy of buying young players to make a profit. We spent £500k on Samuel and £200k on Bell. For them to leave for nothing at their young ages is really poor management.

why Poor? 

Both signed for low fees but not good enough for top half/top 6 championship team. Now not good enough quality wise

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