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If it's true they thought Brereton and Gallagher would be banging them in on Rhodes, Rudy levels by now so that's why they shelled out i absolutely despair of the judgement of the management and coaches. 

To me it just sounds like backside covering hogwash directing the blame back at the players but who'd be surprised if it wasn't. 

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Just now, bluebruce said:

He said big departure and you said he is right but more than one.

Am I right to assume you meant more than one small or fringe player departure, rather than more than one big departure?

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

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2 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

For me this has big Ben written all over it.

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31 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

In terms of departures your right, but it’s more than one. Tm has been having 1on 1 meetings all afternoon , few are being asked to leave with options put to them 

If that is correct, why do them so late in the window?!

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15 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

Mulgrew surely. 

We need his wages off the books.

I don't blame him for hanging onto a contact we gave him, but at 33, if he wants to play a bit more football in his career, he needs a fresh start somewhere new.  

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25 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

Mulgrew, Smallwood, Graham come to mind as feasible. 

I'd personally be upset if Graham featured on the list.

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35 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

Interesting. 

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17 minutes ago, Doaksie said:

Mulgrew, Smallwood, Graham come to mind as feasible. 

I'd personally be upset if Graham featured on the list.

Me too, but I'd be surprised as well. Armstrong being productive at centre forward, and maybe Dack's injury in a strange sort of way, means that we can possibly see a way of not being as reliant on Graham, but I don't think Mowbray will think that we're there yet (or anything close, disappointingly). 

There might be a different decision to be made at the end of the year, but keeping Graham at least for one more window should be no-brainier. I hope we keep him next year too, which admittedly will probably be his last. 

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38 minutes ago, Silas said:

Mulgrew surely. 

We need his wages off the books.

I don't blame him for hanging onto a contact we gave him, but at 33, if he wants to play a bit more football in his career, he needs a fresh start somewhere new.  

He can literally only go to Wigan though is the thing. Or those very specific leagues with different season timetables. Was it like, Australia and the MLS?

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57 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Big players but not regulars this season and not in plans moving forward 

Any chance you could share any of the names?

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"Northampton Town goalkeeper David Cornell who could yet make a late move away from Sixfields this month. The 28-year-old’s contract with the League Two side expires at the end of the season and he could be available on the cheap before the end of the month."

 

Just end the window now. Stop the suffering

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4 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

"Northampton Town goalkeeper David Cornell who could yet make a late move away from Sixfields this month. The 28-year-old’s contract with the League Two side expires at the end of the season and he could be available on the cheap before the end of the month."

 

Just end the window now. Stop the suffering

Ha ha! Might be better putting Smallwood in goal again! Lol!

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4 hours ago, Ossydave said:

 

Leeds have signed Jean-Kevin Augustin on loan from Leipzig.........

only took them 4 months for find one. Know since October they want one. Don't know much about the player tbh

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But he cannot play wide full stop. You dont have to defend it when youve said previously that you disagree with it, you are trying to justify it because Mowbray has done it. If he cannot get in the team in his natural position, then he should play at all. This wide forward bollocks doesnt work either. Its neither helping the players development or more importantly benefitting the team.

Like I said its the way Mowbray is currently playing the system. If we sign a right side wide player this week it might change

3 hours ago, JHRover said:

Without wanting to be negative about this ( I think it is a positive step) it does raise further questions. Why have we left it to now to appoint this person? How long will it take for him to arrive and get to work on targets? Why didn't we appoint him this time last year?

It appears to me that it is just more stalling and diversionary tactics. Keep the fans off our backs for a few more months because before long we'll have all these great European players coming in. 

We advertised the position in August for an European Scout. Have we been waiting for working for him to work his notice? waiting for Venkys to green light the contract? 

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

£4m for Nahki Wells is great value.

I wouldn't be paying 4 mil for him. 

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5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

only took them 4 months for find one. Know since October they want one. Don't know much about the player tbh

Like I said its the way Mowbray is currently playing the system. If we sign a right side wide player this week it might change

We advertised the position in August for an European Scout. Have we been waiting for working for him to work his notice? waiting for Venkys to green light the contract? 

I wouldn't be paying 4 mil for him. 

You wouldn’t pay 4 million for a lad on 15 goals so far this year and on course for 20/25? Younger than when grab an went to forest so 6 million who you linked despite a poorer record?

What did you describe the Brereton fee again as? A steal was it?

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

 

Despite the utterances of some on here and the 'smoke and mirrors' from Ewood, I think it's pretty clear we haven't a transfer pot to p1ss in.

 IMO, Armstrong just hasn't got the physicality to be a number nine, is not a 'wide man' and is more suited to being one of two front men in partnership with a bigger unit, however, doesn't seem to be a Mowbray system! 

 

As an aside, as I said before the window opened, I still think, and increasingly think so, there will be at least one 'big' departure before the window closes.

So if we haven't got any money why have we put cash bids in for players then? 

Armstrong ripped Sheff Wed apart and his pace and movement in 9 role will create the space for Holtby and Rothwell to be more creativity. Since Dack injury he has set up to the mark and performed very good

big departure? You always say this and nothing will come true of it. why weaker a squad when we are close to the playoffs picture?

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

If that is correct, why do them so late in the window?!

Potential clubs waiting to get players off their books before they can buy or loan players. Players waiting until close to the end of the window before wanting to move

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1 minute ago, Scotland1 said:

You wouldn’t pay 4 million for a lad on 15 goals so far this year and on course for 20/25? Younger than when grab an went to forest so 6 million who you linked despite a poorer record?

What did you describe the Brereton fee again as? A steal was it?

blimey, Keep going back to the Brereton fee argument. I did admit the other week that I got it wrong. Its a shame that sadly some people are very petty and use this as a stick to beat certain posters with. 

Linked Grabban to Rovers? don't think so. His wages are too high for us. Maybe check things before you posted it. 

I rather we spend the money on keeper and defence departments which we need to this summer. Need at least 2 keepers and 4 to 5 defenders in this summer

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19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So if we haven't got any money why have we put cash bids in for players then?  If a player is worth £3million in the eyes of his existing club then you aint got a snowball's chance in hell of landing him with a derisory offer.  IMO, it's 'window dressing' for the fans and, sadly, many fans buy it thinking we are active in the market. 

Armstrong ripped Sheff Wed apart and his pace and movement in 9 role will create the space for Holtby and Rothwell to be more creativity. Since Dack injury he has set up to the mark and performed very good.  IMO, we need a number 9 with a physical presence and Armstrong doesn't fit the bill.  I am far conviced by Armstrong - a speed merchant but, IMO, technically poor with a limited football brain.

big departure? You always say this and nothing will come true of it. why weaker a squad when we are close to the playoffs picture?  Be prepared to be surprised then!  We might be close to the play offs but I think our squad is a short on what is needed - throw in a manager who I think is hugely short of the required standard and we wont be at the races.  The bottom line, IMO, is we will stand still, at best.

Potential clubs waiting to get players off their books before they can buy or loan players. Players waiting until close to the end of the window before wanting to move.  My thoughts - we might get one or two cheap loans in or a very low cash signing but there will be at least three out the door including at least one 'big beast'.

 

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31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

only took them 4 months for find one. Know since October they want one. Don't know much about the player tbh

Like I said its the way Mowbray is currently playing the system. If we sign a right side wide player this week it might change

We advertised the position in August for an European Scout. Have we been waiting for working for him to work his notice? waiting for Venkys to green light the contract? 

I wouldn't be paying 4 mil for him. 

If it takes 6 months to appoint a scout, whatever the reason behind it, we might as well give up.

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43 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

only took them 4 months for find one. Know since October they want one. Don't know much about the player tbh

Like I said its the way Mowbray is currently playing the system. If we sign a right side wide player this week it might change

We advertised the position in August for an European Scout. Have we been waiting for working for him to work his notice? waiting for Venkys to green light the contract? 

I wouldn't be paying 4 mil for him. 

Yeah, but it’s wrong and everyone can see it bar Mowbray. 
 

The galling thing is we have actual wingers kicking their heels, while Gallagher is out of position, like a fish up a tree. It’s not his fault he is picked there though.

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27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

only took them 4 months for find one. Know since October they want one. Don't know much about the player tbh

Like I said its the way Mowbray is currently playing the system. If we sign a right side wide player this week it might change

We advertised the position in August for an European Scout. Have we been waiting for working for him to work his notice? waiting for Venkys to green light the contract? 

I wouldn't be paying 4 mil for him. 

 

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So if we haven't got any money why have we put cash bids in for players then? 

Armstrong ripped Sheff Wed apart and his pace and movement in 9 role will create the space for Holtby and Rothwell to be more creativity. Since Dack injury he has set up to the mark and performed very good

big departure? You always say this and nothing will come true of it. why weaker a squad when we are close to the playoffs picture?

Potential clubs waiting to get players off their books before they can buy or loan players. Players waiting until close to the end of the window before wanting to move

Mowbray is currently playing the wide forward system, and has done so, but that doesnt mean that he is right. The wide areas in my opinion have been an achilles heel throughout Mowbrays tenure. Antonsson had a bit of a hot spell there, Armstrong in very small patches, but aside from that, many of the other players that have been tested there have quite simply not been comfortable or effective there, Gallagher, Brereton, Samuel etc. Even more talented players like Holtby or to a far less extent, Jack Payne have been tried there with no success.

It is ok to go against the managers opinion and state that Gallagher is quite simply not fit to play wide, no matter how many videos he watches or "information he takes on board" it is not only hindering the team having him offering nothing there, but it is also disrupting the players development to be trying to mould him into something (at the age of 24) that he is never going to become a success at because he doesnt have the skillset or the subtlety to do that.

Whether we sign a winger or not this week, and if we dont get at least one that is a failure on the club and the manager, then Gallagher STILL should not be on the wing. It has been trialled and failed many times. All of the analysis and training for Gallagher should be based around him being a more effective striker than we have seen so far. In terms of wide positions, we are not strong in terms of proven quality in these areas, but whether it is the youth and natural width that Rankin Costello and Chapman can provide, the more proven outlets of Downing and Armstrong, (the main issue with these 2 is that we need the former in central midfield or left back and the latter up front) the pace and dribbling but ultimately repeatedly flattering to deceive Rothwell, or even in an emergency someone like Bennett (who I would hope is one that could be moved on in the next 5 days but doubt the manager will) they are all better options than Gallagher lumbering up and down and frustrating us all.

Regarding the cash bids, basically all that has been confirmed by the manager is that we are nowhere near the price tags that teams have set for their players, we may have some money but clearly it is barely any. 

And our players futures should have been sorted by the start of the month then they knew where they stand. I am not sure it makes much sense to keep involving Smallwood and Samuel around the first team squad to be honest.

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5 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Yeah, but it’s wrong and everyone can see it bar Mowbray. 
 

The galling thing is we have actual wingers kicking their heels, while Gallagher is out of position, like a fish up a tree. It’s not his fault he is picked there though.

Agreed, the whole wide forward thing is bollocks really. To be fair, Gallagher has been really poor up front too where he has played plenty as well, so I suspect it is a mixture of being reluctant to drop his big money signing and a lack of proven quality out wide, but it is illogical and is vocally getting the fans irritated now.

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23 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 

Mowbray is currently playing the wide forward system, and has done so, but that doesnt mean that he is right. The wide areas in my opinion have been an achilles heel throughout Mowbrays tenure. Antonsson had a bit of a hot spell there, Armstrong in very small patches, but aside from that, many of the other players that have been tested there have quite simply not been comfortable or effective there, Gallagher, Brereton, Samuel etc. Even more talented players like Holtby or to a far less extent, Jack Payne have been tried there with no success.

It is ok to go against the managers opinion and state that Gallagher is quite simply not fit to play wide, no matter how many videos he watches or "information he takes on board" it is not only hindering the team having him offering nothing there, but it is also disrupting the players development to be trying to mould him into something (at the age of 24) that he is never going to become a success at because he doesnt have the skillset or the subtlety to do that.

Whether we sign a winger or not this week, and if we dont get at least one that is a failure on the club and the manager, then Gallagher STILL should not be on the wing. It has been trialled and failed many times. All of the analysis and training for Gallagher should be based around him being a more effective striker than we have seen so far. In terms of wide positions, we are not strong in terms of proven quality in these areas, but whether it is the youth and natural width that Rankin Costello and Chapman can provide, the more proven outlets of Downing and Armstrong, (the main issue with these 2 is that we need the former in central midfield or left back and the latter up front) the pace and dribbling but ultimately repeatedly flattering to deceive Rothwell, or even in an emergency someone like Bennett (who I would hope is one that could be moved on in the next 5 days but doubt the manager will) they are all better options than Gallagher lumbering up and down and frustrating us all.

Regarding the cash bids, basically all that has been confirmed by the manager is that we are nowhere near the price tags that teams have set for their players, we may have some money but clearly it is barely any. 

And our players futures should have been sorted by the start of the month then they knew where they stand. I am not sure it makes much sense to keep involving Smallwood and Samuel around the first team squad to be honest.

Ya,but he also played Conway, Bennett , Chapman, Downing there and I am sure I am forgetting others. Antonnsson and Armstrong certainly did the job there too. I don't think Gallagher should be there,but he did have a few decent games there and in fairness to the lad he works his bollox off.

I think he gets a very hard time here, particularly from yourself. You actually go as far as pretty much denying knowledge of the fact he scored 12 goals here first time around and repeatedly state that he can't score. 

 

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