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Just now, HowieFive0 said:

Just trawling through all the comments tonight. Like many as a Season ticket holder and fan  im brassed off we aint took new blood onboard. Loans ..anything!

But also got me thinking  reading tonight ..just how many on this forum actually put money back into the club ? Even our foreign contingent  buy the I follow ..but so many screwing the club for not spending ? I get the feeling many on here don't .

considering the amount of money iv`e spent on matches at ewood since i started paying for myself at age 16 i must have spent a fortune,thats not including other stuff like shirts and merchandise,you can`t question my loyalty

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Just now, HowieFive0 said:

Just trawling through all the comments tonight. Like many as a Season ticket holder and fan  im brassed off we aint took new blood onboard. Loans ..anything!

But also got me thinking  reading tonight ..just how many on this forum actually put money back into the club ? Even our foreign contingent  buy the I follow ..but so many screwing the club for not spending ? I get the feeling many on here don't .

I pay for 2 season tickets, but I think you are right look on the fb group how many ask for streams, I think we walking an FFP tightrope and Mulgrew coming back coupled with the failure to ship Samuel and Smallwood out has left no room in the budget. I'm not to disappointed as I sort of expected it, i'm happy enough if we get more game time for JRC and JB. I do think we should have brought a left back in that was critical for me

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Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

considering the amount of money iv`e spent on matches at ewood since i started paying for myself at age 16 i must have spent a fortune,thats not including other stuff like shirts and merchandise,you can`t question my loyalty

Good lad ..thought you d be the first to  reply ...

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2 minutes ago, Dave574 said:

Some say I bullshit some actually belive me. Now that only a huge surprise will see any incomings ive been given a explaination by my contact. The information wasn't wrong, things just change sometimes. First of all he was 100% right about Lamptey and the developement there in yesterdays posts (the story broke today) and earlier today I gave a explaination about the Atsu-case and a few hours later it broke on the LT.

What happened today? Many of these things I first got too now now, so don't shoot the messenger.

First of all, like it or not, no matter what Tony have said about funds, Rovers was 100% sure they would get rid of some players, so they could balance both number of players and wages.

Smallwood: Said no to a league one club early last week and was aiming for Sunderland who have shown interest a long time. A lot of people, including myself tought he turned them down today but it was actually Sunderland who suddently backed out of the deal. Why, I don't know.

Chapman: Was offered to a bunch of League one and two teams. League two couldn't afford wages and two League one clubs took the bate. BUT in a back-up role and Chapman then decided to stay.

Brereton: 4 (!) Clubs, none of them English, showed interest in a loan deal, nothing happened and don't know why.

Mulgrew: Seattle Sounders was more than interested as soon as he came back but couldn't match the wages. Mulgrew wanted Rovers to pay him the difference - Rovers said no. 

Incomings:

Lamptey: Was done deal, just some fees about reaching certain numbers of games. Negotiated for 2 weeks until Brighton came up with a insane bid.

Atsu: Was of a while ago when Newcastle played hard to get and wanted full payment of wages. When other clubs said no, just like us, Rovers revisited the deal today but offered to pay the exact same as the bid the last time(!?).

Matty Longstaff: We actually made a bid, Newcastle turned it down, said no chance. Tried to loan and negoiated but even the loan-fee ended up being too high.

Nice one for sharing the info.

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4 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

considering the amount of money iv`e spent on matches at ewood since i started paying for myself at age 16 i must have spent a fortune,thats not including other stuff like shirts and merchandise,you can`t question my loyalty

Absolutely likewise. Forty years, and thousands spent, just not now under this regime. 

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7 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

I’ve never ever been a fan of Mowbray. If he took us up I’d still want him out. He’s so far out his depth it’s unreal. His treatment to some players have been diabolical and spending 12 million on two of the worst strikers I’ve see says it all. Guys if we beat boro 10-0 on sat I’ll still want him out. 

 

So if he takes us from league 1 to the prem you think hes out of his depth give yourself a shake ( and I know technically he took us down but the damage was done by Coyle before hand)

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3 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Ah the expected meltdown is in full flow on here I see 🤣

I don't know why people get their expectations up, if you don't you don't get disappointed.

Just browsing through done deals and the only one that stands out as decent is Maddison to Hull, however he's not really on a par with Jarrod Bowen who's off so not so it's not really that good for them after all although they'll pocket a fair bit of cash.

Problem is mate we really needed some signings with Dack, Rothwell and Evans all being out for a while, not to mention the rebuilding job that's unquestionably going to be needed in the summer. I don't really care what other clubs are doing, I just know that we needed reinforcements and for the second January in a row we didn't get it. We're a Lenihan injury away from huge problems at the back alone, never mind how thin on the ground we are across the rest of the pitch.

We really have to hope some of the youngsters can step up, as I think we're going to need them now. 

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5 minutes ago, Dave574 said:

Some say I bullshit some actually belive me. Now that only a huge surprise will see any incomings ive been given a explaination by my contact. The information wasn't wrong, things just change sometimes. First of all he was 100% right about Lamptey and the developement there in yesterdays posts (the story broke today) and earlier today I gave a explaination about the Atsu-case and a few hours later it broke on the LT.

What happened today? Many of these things I first got too know now, so don't shoot the messenger.

First of all, like it or not, no matter what Tony have said about funds, Rovers was 100% sure they would get rid of some players, so they could balance both number of players and wages.

Smallwood: Said no to a league one club early last week and was aiming for Sunderland who have shown interest a long time. A lot of people, including myself tought he turned them down today but it was actually Sunderland who suddently backed out of the deal. Why, I don't know.

Chapman: Was offered to a bunch of League one and two teams. League two couldn't afford wages and two League one clubs took the bate. BUT in a back-up role and Chapman then decided to stay.

Brereton: 4 (!) Clubs, none of them English, showed interest in a loan deal, nothing happened and don't know why.

Mulgrew: Seattle Sounders was more than interested as soon as he came back but couldn't match the wages. Mulgrew wanted Rovers to pay him the difference - Rovers said no. 

Incomings:

Lamptey: Was done deal, just some fees about reaching certain numbers of games. Negotiated for 2 weeks until Brighton came up with a insane bid.

Atsu: Was of a while ago when Newcastle played hard to get and wanted full payment of wages. When other clubs said no, just like us, Rovers revisited the deal today but offered to pay the exact same as the bid the last time(!?).

Matty Longstaff: We actually made a bid, Newcastle turned it down, said no chance. Tried to loan and negoiated but even the loan-fee ended up being too high.

Longstaff is completely out the blue, think they have high hopes for him though. Don’t think they would sell at all

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Just now, Proudtobeblue&white said:

Absolutely likewise. Forty years, and thousands spent, just not now under this regime. A very offensive post.

Why offensive post ? I said I get the feeling many on here don't ..? btw glad to hear it .

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tend to pick my matches these days,mainly because football has gone to the dogs and i don`t get the buzz much anymore,the game is`nt for the working man these days,deffo don`t enjoy football like i used to

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1 hour ago, Paul Mani said:

@J*B you seem to have a pretty clear idea on ffp. How close are we to the limit? How will that effect the summer bearing in mind a third of the current player expenditure (wages) are set to be out of contract? Will be able to spend back up to that mark? Will sales be necessary?

If nothing else, this window shows that we are VERY concerned with FFP. Absolutely no way have Venkys completely ruled out any spending.

The other day you were confidently spouting the club were totally relaxed about FFP !

Face it lad you spout straight off the top of your head like most of us on here then do some u turns not long after. You either get fed spin then have to backtrack or, like most us again it's just your own assumptions.

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6 minutes ago, Dave574 said:

Some say I bullshit some actually belive me. Now that only a huge surprise will see any incomings ive been given a explaination by my contact. The information wasn't wrong, things just change sometimes. First of all he was 100% right about Lamptey and the developement there in yesterdays posts (the story broke today) and earlier today I gave a explaination about the Atsu-case and a few hours later it broke on the LT.

What happened today? Many of these things I first got too know now, so don't shoot the messenger.

First of all, like it or not, no matter what Tony have said about funds, Rovers was 100% sure they would get rid of some players, so they could balance both number of players and wages.

Smallwood: Said no to a league one club early last week and was aiming for Sunderland who have shown interest a long time. A lot of people, including myself tought he turned them down today but it was actually Sunderland who suddently backed out of the deal. Why, I don't know.

Chapman: Was offered to a bunch of League one and two teams. League two couldn't afford wages and two League one clubs took the bate. BUT in a back-up role and Chapman then decided to stay.

Brereton: 4 (!) Clubs, none of them English, showed interest in a loan deal, nothing happened and don't know why.

Mulgrew: Seattle Sounders was more than interested as soon as he came back but couldn't match the wages. Mulgrew wanted Rovers to pay him the difference - Rovers said no. 

Incomings:

Lamptey: Was done deal, just some fees about reaching certain numbers of games. Negotiated for 2 weeks until Brighton came up with a insane bid.

Atsu: Was of a while ago when Newcastle played hard to get and wanted full payment of wages. When other clubs said no, just like us, Rovers revisited the deal today but offered to pay the exact same as the bid the last time(!?).

Matty Longstaff: We actually made a bid, Newcastle turned it down, said no chance. Tried to loan and negoiated but even the loan-fee ended up being too high.

Sunderland signed a holding midfield player from QPR this week. Sounds like he had a bit more to offer than Smallwood.

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Just now, HowieFive0 said:

Why offensive post ? I said I get the feeling many on here don't ..? btw glad to hear it .

If you go back, I've removed the last sentence having reflected. It's been one of those nights!

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2 minutes ago, tomphil said:

The other day you were confidently spouting the club were totally relaxed about FFP !

Face it lad you spout straight off the top of your head like most of us on here then do some u turns not long after. You either get fed spin then have to backtrack or, like most us again it's just your own assumptions.

Yes he was talking nonsense as usual.

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3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Sunderland signed a holding midfield player from QPR this week. Sounds like he had a bit more to offer than Smallwood.

Youd have more to offer than smallwood.

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13 minutes ago, Dave574 said:

Smallwood: Said no to a league one club early last week and was aiming for Sunderland who have shown interest a long time. A lot of people, including myself tought he turned them down today but it was actually Sunderland who suddently backed out of the deal. Why, I don't know.

Chapman: Was offered to a bunch of League one and two teams. League two couldn't afford wages and two League one clubs took the bate. BUT in a back-up role and Chapman then decided to stay.

Brereton: 4 (!) Clubs, none of them English, showed interest in a loan deal, nothing happened and don't know why.

Mulgrew: Seattle Sounders was more than interested as soon as he came back but couldn't match the wages. Mulgrew wanted Rovers to pay him the difference - Rovers said no. 

Smallwood - Sunderland obviously feel they have better options, and if they get promoted will probably be looking for better than Smallwood long-term. Probably figure they can wait until the summer when he's on a free to decide whether he's still worth a punt.

Chapman - the fact even League 1 teams only want him as backup is obviously not a good sign. Although if he had confidence in his abilities you'd think he'd take the chance and believe he could force his way into the first team for some regular playing time.

Brereton - should have been loaned out, can't understand why he's still here. 

Mulgrew - if we're planning to use him then fair enough, if not then surely any of his significant wages off the books would have been worthwhile. Can only assume we think we can do a better deal in the summer when he'll be available to play for anyone, but his wages will be a stumbling block no matter what - plus six months older and likely having barely played during that time.

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5 minutes ago, DE. said:

Problem is mate we really needed some signings with Dack, Rothwell and Evans all being out for a while, not to mention the rebuilding job that's unquestionably going to be needed in the summer. I don't really care what other clubs are doing, I just know that we needed reinforcements and for the second January in a row we didn't get it. We're a Lenihan injury away from huge problems at the back alone, never mind how thin on the ground we are across the rest of the pitch.

We really have to hope some of the youngsters can step up, as I think we're going to need them now. 

I imagine message boards up and down the country have a similar tone.

Yep we're walking an injury tightrope alright and we've had such rotten luck in that front this season I hope it stops.

More than happy for the youngsters to step in if required.

They may as well scrap this January window it's a complete waste of time.

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5 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

tend to pick my matches these days,mainly because football has gone to the dogs and i don`t get the buzz much anymore,the game is`nt for the working man these days,deffo don`t enjoy football like i used to

Agree with that. Still have an interest, but away days, home games under the floodlights, match of the day, all the things that used to make football great, they just dont interest me as much. Cricket overtaken football for me now, followed by rugby, football comes 3rd.

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10 minutes ago, Dave574 said:

Some say I bullshit some actually belive me. Now that only a huge surprise will see any incomings ive been given a explaination by my contact. The information wasn't wrong, things just change sometimes. First of all he was 100% right about Lamptey and the developement there in yesterdays posts (the story broke today) and earlier today I gave a explaination about the Atsu-case and a few hours later it broke on the LT.

What happened today? Many of these things I first got too know now, so don't shoot the messenger.

First of all, like it or not, no matter what Tony have said about funds, Rovers was 100% sure they would get rid of some players, so they could balance both number of players and wages.

Smallwood: Said no to a league one club early last week and was aiming for Sunderland who have shown interest a long time. A lot of people, including myself tought he turned them down today but it was actually Sunderland who suddently backed out of the deal. Why, I don't know.

Chapman: Was offered to a bunch of League one and two teams. League two couldn't afford wages and two League one clubs took the bate. BUT in a back-up role and Chapman then decided to stay.

Brereton: 4 (!) Clubs, none of them English, showed interest in a loan deal, nothing happened and don't know why.

Mulgrew: Seattle Sounders was more than interested as soon as he came back but couldn't match the wages. Mulgrew wanted Rovers to pay him the difference - Rovers said no. 

Incomings:

Lamptey: Was done deal, just some fees about reaching certain numbers of games. Negotiated for 2 weeks until Brighton came up with a insane bid.

Atsu: Was of a while ago when Newcastle played hard to get and wanted full payment of wages. When other clubs said no, just like us, Rovers revisited the deal today but offered to pay the exact same as the bid the last time(!?).

Matty Longstaff: We actually made a bid, Newcastle turned it down, said no chance. Tried to loan and negoiated but even the loan-fee ended up being too high.

Just how serious are they in moving these guys out though that's the thing. Just look at who and how many have been moved out in the past when we wanted rid, mostly under GB i think.

If the manager of Chief Exec tells you to go or they'll foist you onto any club they can you go if you have interest. Here at Ewood these lot are sitting back cherry picking were they want to go safe in the knowledge they are still on a good screw here if not.

Now hark back to the managers words in summer, not good enough not only is it holding us back in improving it's pushing us further towards FFP problems.

Far too cosy casual and relaxed down there, no urgency for sod all this lot. NOT the way to kick on at all.

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If people think Tony is all of a sudden going to put faith in the youngsters then I fear we are going to be disappointed. Bennett, Smallwood, Samuel etc will probably be getting more game time if needed.

Without doubt the most depressing transfer window ever!!!!

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Looks like we are suffering because Mowbray gives contract extensions as rewards for what players have done in the past, rather than because they will be of further use.

Smallwood, Bennett, Williams and Mulgrew were great getting us out of league 1. But they are holding us back now by clogging up the squad and wage bill.

Mowbray may call it loyalty, but it is a ridiculous way to run a modern football club. I had a guy who fitted a kitchen for me last year, he did a good job but when he was finished I paid him what I owed him and he went away. Mowbray would have paid for him to stay in the house for 6 months in case one of the taps leaked. 

 

 

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