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23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet opinion polls give the Conservatives over 50% of the poll..clearly doing something right

They've had free run since December, from tomorrow that should be over. The Labour Party should now be exposing this lot the incompetents they are.

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33 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

They've had free run since December, from tomorrow that should be over. The Labour Party should now be exposing this lot the incompetents they are.

I'm sure Labour party members were saying this when Corbyn was appoint Leader tho. 

Would you be happy with Starmer as leader? 

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yet opinion polls give the Conservatives over 50% of the poll..clearly doing something right

Cant think what.

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1 hour ago, gumboots said:

Cant think what.

Well well there a surprise 

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3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm sure Labour party members were saying this when Corbyn was appoint Leader tho. 

Would you be happy with Starmer as leader? 

I've no illusions about Labour Party leaders.  Having said that he'd be a thousand times better than Johnson, that much I do know.

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22 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's your view. I believe open and honest. I don't get why it's a big secret. Not like MI6 intelligence reports

Or Reports into Johnson's relationship with Jennifer Arcuri.

Or Reports into Russian interference in the EU Referendum 2016 and the 2017 General election.

 

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Just now, 47er said:

Or Reports into Johnson's relationship with Jennifer Arcuri.

Or Reports into Russian interference in the EU Referendum 2016 and the 2017 General election.

 

Speaking of reports whatever happened to the report into Islamophobia in the Tory Party ?

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As we wait to see who wins the labour leadership farce in 15 mins...

Will be interesting to see if the party takes the opportunity to rebuild its credibility as a party.

Hopefully we see a new shadow cabinet including popular and credible MPs (not from London) including Nandy, Long Bailey, Raynor & Philips.

 

Goodbye to the disasterously incompetent Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Butler, Lavery.

 

Good luck to Lisa Nandy from me.

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Starmer has been elected Labour leader. 

He won the race on the 1st round meaning he won over 50% votes

Angela Raynor elected deputy leader. Winning on the 3rd round

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Mentions not playing party politics but working in the national interest over coronavirus. Working with and asking questions of the government 

Says he will get rid of the poison of antisemitism. He has seen the grief it has brought to the Jewish communities. 

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Communist Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell sent packing by Boris and the UK voters.

Next to get shut of the poison dwarf, Nicola Sturgeon.

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15 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Government approval ratings shows that the majority are happy with handling by them. 

 

" The wisest heads in Downing Street will not be turned by these numbers. They know there's a " rally around the flag " effect at moments of extreme crisis; when citizens are frightened, they want to believe their leaders have got things under control. That's why incumbents around the world, even useless and immoral ones such as Donald Trump, have enjoyed an initial corona bounce in their ratings, regardless of their actions. Johnson will know that one day, perhaps quite soon, he too will be judged. "

That makes sense to me apart from the bit about " wisest heads in Downing Street " - who are they then ? I haven't seen anybody fitting that description !

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What a relief! Some serious opposition at last. A decent man.

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It'll be interesting to see if the right wing Labour MP's stop sulking now or will they carry on throwing their toys out of the pram ? Will they wreck Starmers chances like they wrecked Corbyns ?

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Johnsonn likes to think he's Churchill. Churchill's approval rating was 83% just months before his landslide defeat in 1945. The same will happen to baby Trump. 

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12 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It'll be interesting to see if the right wing Labour MP's stop sulking now or will they carry on throwing their toys out of the pram ? Will they wreck Starmers chances like they wrecked Corbyns ?

Corbin was a train wreck from the start. It’s embarrassing to see some of the reaction on twitter from those who still refuse to lay any blame for Labour’s repeated failures at Corbyn’s door. As a Labour voter I have never felt so conflicted when walking into a voting booth. Thank god we can move on. 

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2 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Corbin was a train wreck from the start. It’s embarrassing to see some of the reaction on twitter from those who still refuse to lay any blame for Labour’s repeated failures at Corbyn’s door. As a Labour voter I have never felt so conflicted when walking into a voting booth. Thank god we can move on. 

It was a train wreck because the right wing MP's made it so. Not the grass roots party in the country, but 150 or so Labour MP's. It was their toy and somebody had the cheek to take their toy away. They would rather see a Tory government than a Corbyn government, that tells me all I need to know. Well they've got what they wished for now, unfortunately their stupidity has cost them their jobs. They pretend to be Socialists but that's all it is, a pretense. That's why I'm left cold by Starmers election, I couldn't really care less.  He's a decent man but so was Corbyn.

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3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It was a train wreck because the right wing MP's made it so. Not the grass roots party in the country, but 150 or so Labour MP's. It was their toy and somebody had the cheek to take their toy away. They would rather see a Tory government than a Corbyn government, that tells me all I need to know. Well they've got what they wished for now, unfortunately their stupidity has cost them their jobs. They pretend to be Socialists but that's all it is, a pretense. That's why I'm left cold by Starmers election, I couldn't really care less.  He's a decent man but so was Corbyn.

He's a decent man with political nous.

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Who looks more statesmanlike than Corbyn ever did. Nowadays politics is as much about image and presentation as it is about policy. Get those things right and you can go a long way. Then if you're basically a decent guy and have a few decent policies you could really go far. 

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15 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It was a train wreck because the right wing MP's made it so. Not the grass roots party in the country, but 150 or so Labour MP's. It was their toy and somebody had the cheek to take their toy away. They would rather see a Tory government than a Corbyn government, that tells me all I need to know. Well they've got what they wished for now, unfortunately their stupidity has cost them their jobs. They pretend to be Socialists but that's all it is, a pretense. That's why I'm left cold by Starmers election, I couldn't really care less.  He's a decent man but so was Corbyn.

Corbyn led the party. He was responsible for Labour’s performance. Look at the election results, what more evidence do you need to show that the experiment failed? Corbyn’s politics galvanised the hard left but no one else. If you don’t win a general election, what is the point? Blair did more for socialism by winning in 97 than Corbyn ever achieved. Let’s get back into government.

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Labour will never win anything, if they can't claim the middle ground.

People's wealth has grown over the years, and so has their awareness of where their wealth come from; and it's not the hard left.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It'll be interesting to see if the right wing Labour MP's stop sulking now or will they carry on throwing their toys out of the pram ? Will they wreck Starmers chances like they wrecked Corbyns ?

It's people like Len Mccluskey that was the problem in your party not MP's like Ian Austin, etc. 

Look at the parliamentary seats you lost that were Labour strongholds for many elections in the last election

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12 minutes ago, dave birch said:

Labour will never win anything, if they can't claim the middle ground.

People's wealth has grown over the years, and so has their awareness of where their wealth come from; and it's not the hard left.

Let's see wether that's still the case when the dust settles on the coronavirus. Who'd have thought the Tories would be compelled to adopt all these Labour policies ?

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18 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Corbyn led the party. He was responsible for Labour’s performance. Look at the election results, what more evidence do you need to show that the experiment failed? Corbyn’s politics galvanised the hard left but no one else. If you don’t win a general election, what is the point? Blair did more for socialism by winning in 97 than Corbyn ever achieved. Let’s get back into government.

Blair did that much for Socialism that he lost a majority twice as big as Johnson's in just over 10 years. How do you explain that one ?

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