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QPR (H) - Tuesday 28th Jan

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Maybe I've been harsh, this very good graphic paints a picture of the game for expected goals in a game for each team based off of key performance metrics.

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Tin hat time after I post this but credit where credit is due, this was a win made in Burnley.

Had he been playing, Wells would surely have tucked away some of the chances Rovers created for QPR...

 

A Very Mowbray Rovers performance from what I have seen of recorded highlights.

First half we showed why we are easily good enough to win promotion even from the distant wastes of 11th before last night's kick-off.

Second half we showed why we won't.

 

In a nutshell:

- against wingers who know what they are doing, Bell and Nyambe are not the finished article

- Tosin strolled and passed into too much trouble. Yes he has everything except super human focus and concentration to be the next Virgil; that's why he is an apprentice with us

- Downing ran the show v Wednesday, anonymous last night; Rothwell anonymous v Wednesday but ran the show first half last night. I don't believe this extreme level of variability is purely down to the players and their response to the opponents but I get the sense Mowbray can't help himself fiddling and twiddling

- Gallagher not surprisingly has problems when faced by a full back who can handle real wingers, never mind a Mowbray refugee banished to the outer darkness.

- I really would like to see the youngsters getting far better chances

- Travis is the real deal and seems to have taken a more effective anti-Mowbray jab than his team mates.

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You got all of that from recorded highlights? Impressive 

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6 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Good win tonight, I think primarily it's about results now, the mindset has to be that we are targeting wins from the last seventeen games. If hypothetically we won sixteen of them and drew one we'd probably secure automatic promotion. 

If more realistically we could make a half decent stab at it and win ten or eleven and avoid defeat in most of the rest that should get us in the play offs as the mark required over the last four seasons has been 74, 80, 75 and 74.

That's the heart talking. Do I actually think we'll do it? Maybe under a manager who played our best options in their natural positions, but I think we need  absolutely everything running in our favour and will be held back by Mowbray and not least by:

1) His weird obsession with playing Gallagher out of position on the right wing as opposed to playing an actual winger like Chapman there.

2) His weird obsession with getting Bennett on the pitch even if he doesn't start

3) Our inability to put in a performance for 90 minutes. Not sure if this is physical or mental as I always think we look extremely unfit in comparison to most other sides but then again we rarely played for more than one half at a time in League one either.

Would love to be proved wrong though.

So he gets criticized for his signings , he gets criticized for his tactics, yet we are having arguably out best season since going down? It doesn't add up!

So if his tactics are so bad, how are we doing so well with his signings that are so bad?

Some people need to take a step back. Ye are gone too far down the anti Mowbray rabbit hole and are unable to escape in spite of evidence that contradicts your view. 

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8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Mowbray said after the game that it was betweem Bennett and Brereton and he went for the more defensive option.

Doesn't he always! Its ingrained with him.

From trying to get a third which would have put the game to bed, we have our fans chewing their nails wishing for it to end.

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2 hours ago, Stuart said:

Clutching.

Consistent though! Fans are to blame.

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Just now, 47er said:

Doesn't he always! Its ingrained with him.

From trying to get a third which would have put the game to bed, we have our fans chewing their nails wishing for it to end.

He got it right because we won. Every game in the division last night was decided by one goal with Derby, Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday all losing after being ahead. Good managers are able to set their teams up to close out games and we should be thankful that we are now doing that.

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10 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

So he gets criticized for his signings , he gets criticized for his tactics, yet we are having arguably out best season since going down? It doesn't add up!

So if his tactics are so bad, how are we doing so well with his signings that are so bad?

Some people need to take a step back. Ye are gone too far down the anti Mowbray rabbit hole and are unable to escape in spite of evidence that contradicts your view. 

Spot on. Some people are just desperately searching for something to complain about.

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8 hours ago, Husky said:

It seems more accurate than most. They have Bell down as the worst Rovers performer.

Now compare that to Lancslive where Bell's performance was rated as one of the best:

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https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-player-ratings-qpr-17646936

If I were a winger playing up against Bell and I got the word from the bench to switch wings and try my luck against Nyambe I'd pretend I hadn't heard anything.

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Well an unchanged starting team that won previously wins again.

Forget the 5 nil luxury game although a few more would be nice, it's performances like last night that get you up the league and keep you there. The blend was right and although the subs looked like it was upsetting it again they rode it out and settled down.

In short, the Weds game everything fell for us and some bad luck evened itself but last night everything was right against a team who could easily undue you if not.  Real signs things are finally gelling again......leave it alone Tony !

Edited by tomphil

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People will have their own thoughts and views and there is nothing wrong with that HOWEVER the one common denominator within these thoughts and views is our beloved club. Maybe JUST maybe Rovers can be the team that comes from the middle into the play offs, who knows? We have the players, we have the ability and we have a source of youth waiting in the wings that might just take us one step further than we dare to dream. These kids will drive the more experienced players to perform as they know they are waiting to break through.

Whilst we have some sort of massive team ethic going on at the club, this isn’t so within the fan base, we see it on here. We hear it in the pub and social media is awash with criticism cynicalism and abuse. Perhaps now is the right time for the fan base to unite. Ewood is a fortress when it wants to be, the fans can be a huge part of this, the away support is amongst the best in the league and beyond and we have seen this on so many occasions. We are so close to the top 6, we have a chance and may not be the people’s choice so come guys let’s get it together for the last 17 games, be as one club and let’s see where it takes us.

We will need huge supporters efforts with Fulham wba and Leeds to visit our ground so,let’s start now!

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26 minutes ago, Josh said:

You got all of that from recorded highlights? Impressive 

I didn't watch the whole 90 minutes on play back is what I am saying. Not from the 2 minutes EFL clip.

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I don’t think ‘the pub’ and real life generally is particularly awash with ‘cynicism’ and ‘abuse’ when it comes to Rovers. Majority of fans I come across are pro Mowbray, Venky’s the lot. If they are right to be so is up for debate, but that’s what I find.

As recent elections have proved, seemingly majority opinion on social media platforms does not usually equate to reality on the ground.

Edited by Mattyblue

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The four teams around us playing eachother on the weekend. The stage is well and truly set.

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43 points with 17 games to go...

Same as we were this time last year after beating Hull.

Will Middlebrough away be Brentford all over again?

As said, 74 points is the likely minimum requirement for the playoffs, so another 10 wins still needed

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2 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

He got it right because we won. Every game in the division last night was decided by one goal with Derby, Millwall and Sheffield Wednesday all losing after being ahead. Good managers are able to set their teams up to close out games and we should be thankful that we are now doing that.

So he sets his team to close out a game with a one goal lead----at half-time!!!!?

 And at home? And you're OK with that?

 

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5 minutes ago, 47er said:

So he sets his team to close out a game with a one goal lead----at half-time!!!!?

 And at home? And you're OK with that?

 

It's a results business and we got the 3 points. I don't understand why anybody is unhappy about that.

I bet Millwall fans are wishing that Rowatt had been able to close their game last night out at half time.

Edited by Mashed Potatoes

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40 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

It's a results business and we got the 3 points. I don't understand why anybody is unhappy about that.

I bet Millwall fans are wishing that Rowatt had been able to close their game last night out at half time.

Everyone is happy about that!

Bennet or JRC? That’s the issue.

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3 hours ago, 47er said:

Consistent though! Fans are to blame.

Oh absolutely. We don’t know how lucky we are (despite having the piss taken out of us for 10 years).

Funny that he is embarrassed by fellow supporters not turning out in numbers, yet not embarrassed that “the club” cancels the TV coverage (while offering online PPV for £10) in order to try to compel fans to shell out £22 each on the last game before the first post Christmas pay packet, on a freezing cold and miserable evening in January.

And all because of a freak 5-0 win for the first time in almost 20 years.

Well it didn’t work - just as experienced fans knew it wouldn’t work. Looking at the ground I’d be surprised if 11,505 was the real number.

Blackburners will not be forced into anything. They are a stubborn bunch who do not take kindly to being slighted. The current administration is completely ignorant of this and don’t seem to care.

But yeah, it’s all the fans fault. We have been here for a hell of a lot longer than this lot and longer still after they leave. If we are doomed when Venkys eventually pull the plug then we are certainly not going to have lots of fans around as part of any legacy from this bunch. Everything rests on promotion. And even this may no longer be enough.

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31 minutes ago, 47er said:

Everyone is happy about that!

Bennet or JRC? That’s the issue.

Well I for one was happy that Bennett was brought on to help out Bell who was getting absolutely skinned by Samuel, not least because he was constantly left one-on-one. Despite our good play in the first half we were lucky not to go in 2-2 because of the problems down that side.

And we won the game, the sole object of playing it. 

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Quick thoughts.

Tosin and Lenihen did well defensively although Tosin gave it away a bit too much.

Nyambe I thought was very good in the first half, especially on the overlap, but like against Wednesday seemed to play within himself in the second half. Bell was poor first half, getting skinned a few times and distribution poor. He defended better second half.

Travis needs to improve his distribution but he was MOTM for me. He's becoming a right niggly little git in a positive way. Downing and Holtby were OK without being spectacular. Armstrong was lively and took his goal well, although the defenders want shooting for giving him that amount of time. Gallagher tried to make a nuisance of himself in his random right wing position. Rothwell was outstanding for 45 minutes before injury.

Not sure why after 70 minutes they all moved 10 yards deeper and couldn't put their foot on the ball. QPR didn't suddenly start playing well, we just couldn't do anything other than lump it long and give it them back. 

Result wise it was a very good evening and keeps us on the periphery of the top 6. 

As for the 1,500 who flocked to buy tickets after the red-button option was removed, they obviously didn't cover the gaps from the 1 in 3 season ticket holders sat around me who decided not to bother.

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2 minutes ago, geedog13 said:

Can anyone see any similarities in the goal???? 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bjhr8BVgAnp/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

It's something he seems to try a lot, probably one of the main reasons that he's played so far on the left. 

No co-incidence that he hit the post so much last year, with him trying it as often as he does.

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4 hours ago, 47er said:

So he sets his team to close out a game with a one goal lead----at half-time!!!!?

 And at home? And you're OK with that?

 

It worked. 

If it didn't you would use that as evidence of failure. So why not see this as success?

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