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I don’t think there’d be any negative reaction at all. Tony Parkes dedicated his life to the club and it would be a universally popular move.

As much as many on here light not like to here it, the regime is nowhere near as unpopular and motives aren’t questioned in anywhere near the same way as they were at the time of the Ronnie Clayton re-naming etc.

As an example, last day of the season becomes ‘Tony Parkes Day’ and there is an official re-naming of the Riverside pre-match, I don’t think we’d be hearing much in the way of dissent.

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2 hours ago, The Axe said:

Nothing to do with Parkes. Just trying to point out that we should remember that the club owes a debt to those who built it over 150 years. Perhaps the 1995 was misleading. No argument from me about him receiving recognition. I think though if you will check out Jim Forrest's past you will find an equally deserving case.

No argument from me either about Tony receiving recognition, although I'd prefer it if they were able to give him some practical help at the same time.

However, the idea of a Tony Parkes Stand was a supporters' idea, that built up a head of steam. None of us know whether the club has other ideas for naming the stands in the light of FFP . etc.

I know I had my own suspicions about the timing of the Ronnie Clayton mural, but my argument here is that it is not reasonable to lambast the club, simply because it does not immediately sign up to the stand idea, generated online. That does not necessarily mean disregard for Tony

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1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

No argument from me either about Tony receiving recognition, although I'd prefer it if they were able to give him some practical help at the same time.

However, the idea of a Tony Parkes Stand was a supporters' idea, that built up a head of steam. None of us know whether the club has other ideas for naming the stands in the light of FFP . etc.

I know I had my own suspicions about the timing of the Ronnie Clayton mural, but my argument here is that it is not reasonable to lambast the club, simply because it does not immediately sign up to the stand idea, generated online. That does not necessarily mean disregard for Tony

Totally agree with you. My point was that the club has been placed in a problematic situation with this one. Like you I would prefer practical help to Tony as the priority. Beyond that recognition would be nice but not in a manner that suggests it has been brought about by his illness. I don't think it is arguable that he deserves something at Ewood to remind us of him. My suggestion was that if he was included in recognition with other luminaries that would not arise. There was more to the man than just player and manager. Along with Faz and Butch he was the reliable choice when the club was represented at social functions, was often sent to scout players and the opposition and was Jack's ears when he left for Jersey. I think this is one that needs thinking about and I don't blame Waggott for taking his time, as long as there is an end result. There is the additional complication that he was treated disgracefully when he was dismissed so like I said a lot to take on board.

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1 hour ago, The Axe said:

Totally agree with you. My point was that the club has been placed in a problematic situation with this one. Like you I would prefer practical help to Tony as the priority. Beyond that recognition would be nice but not in a manner that suggests it has been brought about by his illness. I don't think it is arguable that he deserves something at Ewood to remind us of him. My suggestion was that if he was included in recognition with other luminaries that would not arise. There was more to the man than just player and manager. Along with Faz and Butch he was the reliable choice when the club was represented at social functions, was often sent to scout players and the opposition and was Jack's ears when he left for Jersey. I think this is one that needs thinking about and I don't blame Waggott for taking his time, as long as there is an end result. There is the additional complication that he was treated disgracefully when he was dismissed so like I said a lot to take on board.

Nailed it for me.

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I don’t agree with sticking Tony in alongside a host of other names. Where does that stop? Who is in and who misses the cut? There is already a wall of legends with Tony’s name amongst other names.

This is about recognising a former club stalwart and legend, on the pitch and off it, who devoted his career and life to this club, and who is here now. Although, holding the club to emotional ransom over stand naming is likely to be counterproductive given what the regime thinks of fans customers.

However, I do agree that the club needs to think about this carefully. The online petition has set the desired recognition bar pretty high, while the one that the club delivers (and only they will ultimately deliver) has the potential to add further ill-will at a time when they are trying to generate feelgood vibes (and revenue). Which is why I think they will be ‘looking into’ an appropriate tribute for a little while yet (hopefully not until the public emotion fades - although that is a suspicion). It would be lovely to have Tony here to see it, and even open it (whatever it is).

I await Steve’s decision. Or maybe he’ll defer to the FF to decide - within some defined boundaries - so it can be sold as “a fitting tribute chosen by the fans”. I certainly don’t expect to be delighted but it would be nice, just once, to be pleasantly surprised.

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Sadly Gordon Cowans has now been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s as well :(

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Tom said:

Sadly Gordon Cowans has now been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s as well :(

Yes it’s unbelievably sad.

Here is a statement from Gordon Cowans...

 

“Dear friends and supporters.
In an attempt to stop speculation and misinformation about my health, I have decided to release the following statement. After a series of recent tests, I have been diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's Disease. Medication has been prescribed and with some life changes, which I intend to commit to fully, the prognosis is a good one. I will be out and about for many years yet and see this as just another of life's journeys. My match day duties with Aston Villa will remain an important part of my future and I will continue to perform these, in support of my beloved club, for as long as my health allows. With the love and support of family and close friends guaranteed, I am very optimistic and positive about the future. With Love. Gordon ( Sid ) Cowans”

Edited by oldjamfan1

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one of the best passers of a football i ever saw was cowans,terribly sad news,ironically not a renown header of a football either,just goes to show  that this heinous condition can effect anyone

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I hope there is more ongoing research about the potential of CTE having an effect.

However if there was irrefutable proof of a correlation I still think there would be a struggle to convince people that changes were due

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Did that training pitch ever get named after Tony Parkes?

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With all the sad news around about football related dementia that occurred to me the other day.

Kicked into the long (Brockhall) grass, I’d wager...

Edited by Mattyblue

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That's what I thought to be honest, probably never hear a mention of it again.

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Unless the forum starts talking about this I'm quite convinced they do read what's on here

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