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2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Still thrown away a season of his career (at a midfielders late 20s peak too) to sit on a nice contract... which he’s perfectly entitled to do, by the way, especially as he won’t see that kind of deal again, but it has surprised me a little as it always seemed the type that loves playing football and wouldn’t be happy just to train with no sniff of the first team squad at a weekend.

Definitely turned out that way, but I suspect it was less him happy to sit on a contract, more him backing himself to win a spot back. TM has said on multiple occasions that he's not one to fully ostracise the players who are surplus to requirements, so it's possible that he was waiting for his chance to come around. It just turns out that it never did.

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The point is that big money will be found to pay all players in full even if part deferred whilst peanuts can not be found to meet any ST refunds that may arise.

This works by praying on Fan loyalty or IMHO taking the piss.

If I was an ST holder, living abroad I'm not, I would demand and pursue the Club for a refund.

I am however trying to get family, who I introduced to Rovers over the years, to do exactly that. Their choice, some will some won't.

 

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22 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

Definitely turned out that way, but I suspect it was less him happy to sit on a contract, more him backing himself to win a spot back. TM has said on multiple occasions that he's not one to fully ostracise the players who are surplus to requirements, so it's possible that he was waiting for his chance to come around. It just turns out that it never did.

He’s not even been on the bench all season, whilst new signings and young lads have all pushed past him, and there’s been a load of injuries in midfield positions and still no sniff.

Surely by Christmas he should’ve seen the writing on the wall and been angling for at least a loan move? Maybe he was and it just didn’t happen, but ‘it’s a short career‘ doesn’t just mean money’

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Well as expected it's crap. "The promotion code you entered is not valid."

Yet another example of how the club no longer gives a shit about the support.

TV. TV. TV.........it's all the game cares about these days.

Edited by Paul

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10 hours ago, perthblue02 said:

That as always been the case with ifollow since its start for overseas subscribers, your subscription (video content)  covers all standard league games not including the play offs. all to do with play off games in every division  being broadcast on TV . For part of the first season of ifollow there was no Football League tv broadcast deal in Australia, so contacted ifollow and they said if there is no TV station showing the play off games in x country, match passes will be made available per game for that country.

Expect that  play off games on a per match basis this season will have to be offered to season ticket holders for a fee.

Edit: Wrong on my expectations of the above, just looked at the Exeter website who played in a first leg play off this week.Looks like the broadcasters put their foot down despite the unusual circumstances.

https://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/watch-play-offs/

Not what I meant pb. We can’t even buy iFollow passes to watch the play-offs. Back to exclusivity. Is anyone going to buy a Sky subscription to watch one match?

With any luck it’ll be on in the pub by then. Hope Fulham beat Bristol City. ;) 

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OK I REALLY COULD DO WITH HELP - PLEASE. I've been at this for over three hours now. It's not for me, I couldn't give a fig anymore, but my lad is desperate to watch the game.

I've finally managed to redeem the code sent to me by the club - I did this on the tablet we need to use. My son needs to watch the game on his tablet, a Samsung and obviously Android because he doesn't have a laptop/PC and Covid-19 prevents me from entering his house so I can't take my laptop inside - I do have his tablet though! I've downloaded the Rovers app from Playstore and can use the app successfully!!!

I have an email from Rovers which gave me the code and states:

"Test the system before matchday! Take a look at some match highlights from previous fixtures to make sure you have access and your device works properly. Premium content will only be available to premium subscribers."

If I go to Highlights I can watch SOME of these but not all. For example I can Derby v Rovers with the image showing the teams coming out. Next to this image is another for the same game but it shows a season ticket. If I try to watch this video I get the message "Alert. To watch this content please upgrade your account" It's the same game for goodness sake!!! The same applies to other matches.

Then I go to Latest Videos and click the image of the Tony Mowbray interview, again I get the message "Alert......" If I go to Latest News, Community etc. all I get is "Alert....."

I cannot find anywhere in the app to upgrade the account. I will happily pay money for my lad to watch Rovers but it is completely beyond me how to do this. I've tried via the ifollow@efl.com website - every time I enter my email address it says "please enter a valid email address"

My two questions are simple - Do I have to find a way to upgrade the account to allow my lad to watch the game? Does the fact I can watch some of the Highlight videos mean we can watch the match tomorrow? I'm not a fool but what I am experiencing is completely beyond me and I do actually know how to use IT!!!!!

My wife has shown me her Twitter feed - it's alive with other Rovers fans not understanding this whole process.

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On 17/06/2020 at 20:20, Stuart said:

No shizzle? Testing people reduces risk?

Maybe they should be testing school kids so they can get an education and their parents can go to work.

Oh wait, there’s no money in that!

Anyway, great news that football is back with a bang. Or a nil-nil with a error from the officials.

Just catching up! Serco were paid £108m for the world beating track and trace system that has proved to be shit. There's money all right......just wasted!

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Just now, Proudtobeblue&white said:

Just catching up! Serco were paid £108m for the world beating track and trace system that has proved to be shit. There's money all right......just wasted!

Yeah, not really the same thing.

One was an attempt to end lockdown, the other an attempt to avoid bloated football clubs losing money.

We aren’t going to agree on this so it’s probably best just to drop it.

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1 minute ago, Stuart said:

Yeah, not really the same thing.

One was an attempt to end lockdown, the other an attempt to avoid bloated football clubs losing money.

We aren’t going to agree on this so it’s probably best just to drop it.

Stuart, if you're asking me the question as to which is more important, all children going back to school/college, against football coming back behind closed doors, the former every time.

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10 hours ago, Paul said:

OK I REALLY COULD DO WITH HELP - PLEASE. I've been at this for over three hours now. It's not for me, I couldn't give a fig anymore, but my lad is desperate to watch the game.

I've finally managed to redeem the code sent to me by the club - I did this on the tablet we need to use. My son needs to watch the game on his tablet, a Samsung and obviously Android because he doesn't have a laptop/PC and Covid-19 prevents me from entering his house so I can't take my laptop inside - I do have his tablet though! I've downloaded the Rovers app from Playstore and can use the app successfully!!!

I have an email from Rovers which gave me the code and states:

"Test the system before matchday! Take a look at some match highlights from previous fixtures to make sure you have access and your device works properly. Premium content will only be available to premium subscribers."

If I go to Highlights I can watch SOME of these but not all. For example I can Derby v Rovers with the image showing the teams coming out. Next to this image is another for the same game but it shows a season ticket. If I try to watch this video I get the message "Alert. To watch this content please upgrade your account" It's the same game for goodness sake!!! The same applies to other matches.

Then I go to Latest Videos and click the image of the Tony Mowbray interview, again I get the message "Alert......" If I go to Latest News, Community etc. all I get is "Alert....."

I cannot find anywhere in the app to upgrade the account. I will happily pay money for my lad to watch Rovers but it is completely beyond me how to do this. I've tried via the ifollow@efl.com website - every time I enter my email address it says "please enter a valid email address"

My two questions are simple - Do I have to find a way to upgrade the account to allow my lad to watch the game? Does the fact I can watch some of the Highlight videos mean we can watch the match tomorrow? I'm not a fool but what I am experiencing is completely beyond me and I do actually know how to use IT!!!!!

My wife has shown me her Twitter feed - it's alive with other Rovers fans not understanding this whole process.

I can't really help but from what I'm reading its affecting fans from every single club, it's an ifollow balls up. My dad still hasn't got his sorted, he was speaking to someone from the club yesterday and they couldn't resolve it so have now had to raise a ticket with the IT team at ifollow to contact him. Who knows when that will be, imagine they're snowed under!

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It’s from Henry Winter’s piece in The Times this morning.

Almost a throwaway comment that of course fans should be expecting either refunds, discounts on next season or formally be able to donate it - so a choice.

Shows just how different this club’s stance is...

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The way Rovers have set out their ‘Restart’ stall, rather than a straightforward and automatically sympathetic process, people are likely to have to ‘beg’ for their money back.

The club should not be treating fans with as dismissively as they are anyway but they certainly should not be taking their dignity away as well.

They should be concerned that anyone who has to go through the shame of phoning the club and explaining that they’ve fallen on hard times will never want to come back.

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Also in today’s Times -

QPR gave ST holders a choice - ifollow, refund or discount for next season.

A third have asked for a ‘refund’, now I don’t know if that means a straight refund or a deferred one.

We get similar gates here, so if that was replicated here that would be less than 3,000 refunds at around £40 a pop, it’s very worrying if the club thinks that is threatening the very existence of Blackburn Rovers...

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24 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Also in today’s Times -

QPR gave ST holders a choice - ifollow, refund or discount for next season.

A third have asked for a ‘refund’, now I don’t know if that means a straight refund or a deferred one.

We get similar gates here, so if that was replicated here that would be less than 3,000 refunds at around £40 a pop, it’s very worrying if the club thinks that is threatening the very existence of Blackburn Rovers...

They get similar gates... IN WEST LONDON. Be very surprised if we didn’t get a significantly higher proportion of our fan base asking for refunds. Given that the club make a loss on every game where we don’t get 15k fans, I understand their concern. I do think the right move is to offer refunds but I’m not sure we can compare our area of support to QPRs.

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Of course we can, their fan base isn’t Chelsea’s, or even Fulham’s socioeconomically, it comes largely from the Hounslow/Heathrow/Hillingdon areas, not leafy west London.

With all due respect Morten how on earth would you know that significantly more Rovers fans would ask for refunds? The remaining 8/9000 ST holders have been enormously loyal this past decade of shite. We aren’t all yokels with outdoor loos up here.

Most ST holders I know wouldn’t have requested one, so anecdotally a third seems a fair enough figure to me.


 

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34 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

France open stadiums for 5000 fans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/53119479

I wonder if our stadiums re-opening will coincide with the play-off final being at Wembley?

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Are the cutouts onview at Ewood today a reflection of renewals we will get next season?

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Edited by Stuart

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Tried to get in at 2.45 but constantly getting "connection error, no internet access." I was able to use Google Chrome! Uninstalled and reinstalled the app twice, got in but couldn't watch. Tried to buy a £10 pass to see if that would work. Couldn't buy a pass because I've already got one!!!!

After failing to buy a pass I went back to the app which asked me to log in - for the first time in 24 hours. Eventually got the feed at 3.12.

Better than I expected and we won.

The technology is awful.

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A good win but I'm disillusioned with this ifollow. I did think earlier this week how on god's earth is a system going to cope with millions tuning in around 3pm. They have made £000's out of this when it should have been put through sky/bt/bbc……. 

Timeline:

230pm - connection good, ready for the game

250pm - lost sound but picture ok

255pm - complete loss of picture & sound

300pm - tried to connect but got "sorry, but there is a problem..….please try later"

315pm - full connection

355pm to 415pm - still pictures with little sound

415pm to 500pm - black screen, no sound

I've e-mail Rovers asking for a refund although I do realise no one will read my e-mail, they just want my money.

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3 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

A good win but I'm disillusioned with this ifollow. I did think earlier this week how on god's earth is a system going to cope with millions tuning in around 3pm. They have made £000's out of this when it should have been put through sky/bt/bbc……. 

Timeline:

230pm - connection good, ready for the game

250pm - lost sound but picture ok

255pm - complete loss of picture & sound

300pm - tried to connect but got "sorry, but there is a problem..….please try later"

315pm - full connection

355pm to 415pm - still pictures with little sound

415pm to 500pm - black screen, no sound

I've e-mail Rovers asking for a refund although I do realise no one will read my e-mail, they just want my money.

Mine worked fine. As a product I was satisfied. For me It will never replace Going to a game.

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I missed first 10 minutes. I will give them benefit of doubt now, as first game with mass viewings, and hopefully it’s fine going forwards. Saying that, I do feel for the older generation who probably find technology more stressful and likely gave up when couldn’t log in at kick off, hope Rovers take care of them.

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Just now, Wood26 said:

I missed first 10 minutes. I will give them benefit of doubt now, as first game with mass viewings, and hopefully it’s fine going forwards. Saying that, I do feel for the older generation who probably find technology more stressful and likely gave up when couldn’t log in at kick off, hope Rovers take care of them.

Its not that they didn't know the "vast viewing" numbers. They saw a profitable market and took advantage - dirty side of business IMO. EFL have apologised, not clubs fault, but ifollow have got away with it.

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