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6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I can never under stand why guys like Nyambe don't work harder on their ability to play on the other flank. I always reckoned you had two chances of getting into the team instead of one if you could play right or left back.

He will always be right footed and having a full back on his wrong side will always change things slightly, no matter how much he trains.

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10 minutes ago, Vilesinner said:

If we had played Gestede and King we would've been promoted. Rhodes doesn't compare with the quality we have now.

Bowyer wasn't capable of getting a team promoted from this league regardless of who we had on the pitch unfortunately.

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4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

How anyone can suggest that he shouldnt have played is incredible too. He was scoring 20 plus goals every season, he was the strength of the team, not the weakness.

Rhodes limited how we could play when he was in the team. He did fantastically well for us but it sadly was to the detriment of others. The fact that we had a 25 goal a season striker yet never reached the play offs is testament to that. Look at how Rhodes has faired elsewhere in comparison to Josh King.

Top guy and he’s made the best of his ability but I wouldn’t swap him for Armstrong or Dack. 

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A Prem team who doesn't worry too much about paying squaddies 20 grand a week could do worse that having Mulgrew as back up for the odd game.

Actually think that div might suit him better than the blood and thunder league.

By the way I'm talking purely as a back up player for odd games. 

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18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Sheffield United need a left footed centre back capable of moving out with the ball. Lenihan doesnt fit either requirement.

They were interested in January according to many reports.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/latest-blades-news/sheffield-united-again-linked-talented-championship-defensive-duo-1355351

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10 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Rhodes limited how we could play when he was in the team. He did fantastically well for us but it sadly was to the detriment of others. The fact that we had a 25 goal a season striker yet never reached the play offs is testament to that.

That's like saying Shearer limited how we could play. The fact we had a 25 goal a season man had nothing to do with us missing out on the play-offs. That's a bizarre statement. We missed out because we conceded too many goals and drew too many games. Nowt to do with Rhodes.

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21 minutes ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Rhodes limited how we could play when he was in the team. He did fantastically well for us but it sadly was to the detriment of others. The fact that we had a 25 goal a season striker yet never reached the play offs is testament to that. Look at how Rhodes has faired elsewhere in comparison to Josh King.

Top guy and he’s made the best of his ability but I wouldn’t swap him for Armstrong or Dack. 

What @Hoochie Bloochie Mama said. We didnt miss out on the top 6 because of the strikeforce. 

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3 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

12/13 - 27 goals

13/14 -  25 goals

14/15 - 21 goals

Aye, bag of shite.

Yes, and if we had played Gestede and King we would've been promoted imo.

We looked fantastic the few times they played together.

Gone are the days of forwards that do little but score. Successful teams defend from the front.

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2 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

That's like saying Shearer limited how we could play. The fact we had a 25 goal a season man had nothing to do with us missing out on the play-offs. That's a bizarre statement. We missed out because we conceded too many goals and drew too many games. Nowt to do with Rhodes.

What nonsense. Shearer was a complete player. 

He could tackle and tracked back.

I got to see him play his first game in Southern Ireland, putting the opposition left back over the advertising hordings.

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By the same token, Armstrong was the one who stopped us from getting into the top 6 last year. He only got 16 goals whereas if he had got 25 we might have got into the top 6. Lets not focus on the inept goalkeeper, shaky defence and lack of balance.

If a striker is scoring 20 plus goals then he is doing his job, even before you appreciate that Rhodes wasnt quite as one dimensional as people made out. The reasons we couldnt make the top 6 were Lowe and Williamson in midfield, a leaky defence, poor goalkeepers in an overweight Robinson (post blood clot) and a terrible Steele, a manager who rarely outwitted his opposition etc. Not the striker who was consistently one of the top scorers in the division.

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2 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

That's like saying Shearer limited how we could play. The fact we had a 25 goal a season man had nothing to do with us missing out on the play-offs. That's a bizarre statement. We missed out because we conceded too many goals and drew too many games. Nowt to do with Rhodes.

I take the point and Rhodes undoubtedly did well but we had to build the team around him which stifled others. Rhodes was not THE reason we failed to get promotion but I’d argue that building the team around him limited us in the long run. He offered nothing outside the box. The modern striker needs to do more than just score these days. Comparing him to Shearer just proves my point.

That being said, Ive got a lot of time for Rhodes and fully appreciate what he did here. 

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6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

By the same token, Armstrong was the one who stopped us from getting into the top 6 last year. He only got 16 goals whereas if he had got 25 we might have got into the top 6. Lets not focus on the inept goalkeeper, shaky defence and lack of balance.

If a striker is scoring 20 plus goals then he is doing his job, even before you appreciate that Rhodes wasnt quite as one dimensional as people made out. The reasons we couldnt make the top 6 were Lowe and Williamson in midfield, a leaky defence, poor goalkeepers in an overweight Robinson (post blood clot) and a terrible Steele, a manager who rarely outwitted his opposition etc. Not the striker who was consistently one of the top scorers in the division.

The truth.

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5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

By the same token, Armstrong was the one who stopped us from getting into the top 6 last year. He only got 16 goals whereas if he had got 25 we might have got into the top 6. Lets not focus on the inept goalkeeper, shaky defence and lack of balance.

If a striker is scoring 20 plus goals then he is doing his job, even before you appreciate that Rhodes wasnt quite as one dimensional as people made out. The reasons we couldnt make the top 6 were Lowe and Williamson in midfield, a leaky defence, poor goalkeepers in an overweight Robinson (post blood clot) and a terrible Steele, a manager who rarely outwitted his opposition etc. Not the striker who was consistently one of the top scorers in the division.

Armstrong is a completely different player, He poses more of a threat than Rhodes does. Armstrong has pace and can score from anywhere. Rhodes is a poacher who needs a team built around him to score goals. He relies on service. If it doesn’t arrive, he offers nothing. He did phenomenally well to score as often as he did when you look at his relatively limited skill set. 

The modern striker needs to occupy defenders and pose a threat off the ball. Rhodes too often was a passenger. If we played well, he’d score. If we didn’t, it’d be like playing with 10 men. He was never a game changer. Look at how he has faired at a higher level and at other championship teams.

He wasn’t the sole reason we didn’t go up but I maintain that we would have faired better in those early years under Bowyer with a team built around King/Gestede instead.
 

This is going off topic so I’ll leave it there.

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Let's not rewrite history on Rhodes. If we played our current formation & style of play with him up top, he'd thrive. We're creating chances and he's the sort of player that would finish them off. For the most part while he was here he was leading the line and making the most of scraps. If anything, we didn't play to his strengths enough.

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