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Grant Hall just joined Middlesbrough on a free transfer.

There we go. Experienced proven CB on a free transfer passing by the wayside. Not brilliant but better than what we've got.

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Smallwood knows he'll never get a contract close to this one again so is making sure he gets every penny from it. Blame is 100% on TM and we can add the last year and a half of Smallwood's wages to the £12m & Mulgrew's wages that have likely eaten up massive portions of our budget.

Tbf we took Rodwell after he drained Sunderland of more wages in a week than Smallwood costs us in six months, so not sure the club or any supporters can cry ethics unless they were vocally against Rodwell's signing because he'd robbed a living at Sunderland for two years. 

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6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

@Mercer what do you know of him? 

He looks ok from the online coverage you can find online but without seeing him live hard to judge 

Never seen him play.

Told he reads the game well, makes good decisions and is brave and agile. 

From what I'm told, would be a big upgrade on Walton and Leutwiler.  

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Never seen him play.

Told he reads the game well, makes good decisions and is brave and agile. 

From what I'm told, would be a big upgrade on Walton and Leutwiler.  

Thanks for the reply 

Me and you drunk would be better than Leutwiler Mercer :lol:

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4 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

Downing is one of the worst culprits for slowing the play down.

The system I would play is 4-2-3-1. It's difficult to name a starting line up when I don't know what our squad will be but I would dearly hope that signing a keeper, centre back and a left back are absolute priorities. Personally I think we need 7 new players to have a squad capable of top 6 they are a keeper, centre back x2, right back, left back, central midfield, winger. If we were to do this then my starting 11 would look something like this. 

                                    New GK

Nyambe           Lenihan              New CB      New LB

                        Travis                 Johnson/New                 

Holtby                          Dack                          Rothwell/New

                                 Armstrong

 

Thanks for the squad

4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

What would yours be going into next season, including any signings? (not the actual player but the position eg new GK) And what would your view be if we did sign a winger, are you totally against having wingers or just dont think Mowbray is interested in them.

I personally think that we are dying for width. None of our wide players this season have been effective. Goalkeeper, centre back and left back are all obvious areas but out wide isnt far behind.

Next season the only current players we have to play in the back 5 are Lenihan and Nyambe. So obviously need a competent keeper, LB and CB. Evans and Travis are fine in CM. Dack just off Armstrong as the main 2 up front. I sadly dont think its realistic to sign 2 wingers, so one of Holtby, Rothwell, Chapman or Rankin Costello on the other side. Probably Holtby with width on the other side.

Stick Dillon Phillips, Cunningham, Ayala and Jones into those 4 slots and we look much better but that obviously isnt realistic and theres minimal chance of holding onto our key players.

Whiteman is a rumour that surely cannot have any legs to it. Central midfield well down the list of priorities.

First I have no idea on Whiteman rumour you need to asked the source of the info which was @Sparks Rover . 

Thought-out Mowbray time at the club hasn't played with natural wingers at the club apart from Conway during his time here as I have repeating said to yourself several times. If he is looking to buy or loan one a winger then its looks like a change of Strategy

I would play a 4-2-3-1 formation                 

                                                                New keeper

Nyambe(or better attacking full back) Lenihan  New CB New LB

                                                        Travis  Evans/Buckley

                                       Brereton/Holtby   Dack         Rothwell

                                                                 Armstrong

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

 

We also apparently wanted wingers in January and I think Mowbray was quoted as such so the penny may drop. Indeed the Chapman incident will of course have more to it than him just being a winger.

Didn't we look to sign Jordan Jones from Liverpool who isn't a winger? 

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Thanks for the squad

First I have no idea on Whiteman rumour you need to asked the source of the info which was @Sparks Rover . 

Thought-out Mowbray time at the club hasn't played with natural wingers at the club apart from Conway during his time here as I have repeating said to yourself several times. If he is looking to buy or loan one a winger then its looks like a change of Strategy

I would play a 4-2-3-1 formation                 

                                                                New keeper

Nyambe(or better attacking full back) Lenihan  New CB New LB

                                                        Travis  Evans/Buckley

                                       Brereton/Holtby   Dack         Rothwell

                                                                 Armstrong

 

 

 

 

Didn't we look to sign Jordan Jones from Liverpool who isn't a winger? 

So you would personally opt to have Ben Brereton as a wide man? Or you think thats what will happen? Would you personally like to see a winger or 2 at the club?

We wanted a winger in January. I hope we want one now budget allowing because nobody who has played out wide this season has been effective bar maybe Armstrong who is a striker.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18204589.mowbray-atsu-rovers-failure-add-january/

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

So you would personally opt to have Ben Brereton as a wide man? Or you think thats what will happen? Would you personally like to see a winger or 2 at the club?

We wanted a winger in January. I hope we want one now budget allowing because nobody who has played out wide this season has been effective bar maybe Armstrong who is a striker.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18204589.mowbray-atsu-rovers-failure-add-january/

Like I said to you few days/couple of weeks ago I wouldn't play with wide players but more inside with my full backs providing the width. One reason with I would like to see a right back with more attacking attributes come in. Did you forget this conversation? 

If we are bringing in any wingers then Mowbray is going to adapt the way he has played during his tenure at the club

I have no idea what Mowbray will do this window. 

fair enough. We wanted Jordan Jones 1st I seen to remember. He would be good loan signing but wouldn't have got his PL winner medal tho

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8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said to you few days/couple of weeks ago I wouldn't play with wide players but more inside with my full backs providing the width. One reason with I would like to see a right back with more attacking attributes come in. Did you forget this conversation? 

If we are bringing in any wingers then Mowbray is going to adapt the way he has played during his tenure at the club

I have no idea what Mowbray will do this window. 

fair enough. We wanted Jordan Jones 1st I seen to remember. He would be good loan signing but wouldn't have got his PL winner medal tho

I think the club shares your desire for attacking defenders. That's the contributing factor to our defense leaking 60+ goals a season. Mowbray did bring in Chapman to play out wide.Injury and a bust up got in the way of that. Jordan Jones was one of a number of players we were linked with last January and we were among the clubs said to want to sign him. Rangers are looking to sell him,not send him out on loan.

I am sure it's mere coincidence that Mowbray is on holiday the week Bristol City are holding second interviews and looking to finalise their new managerial appointment.

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19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said to you few days/couple of weeks ago I wouldn't play with wide players but more inside with my full backs providing the width. One reason with I would like to see a right back with more attacking attributes come in. Did you forget this conversation? 

If we are bringing in any wingers then Mowbray is going to adapt the way he has played during his tenure at the club

I have no idea what Mowbray will do this window. 

fair enough. We wanted Jordan Jones 1st I seen to remember. He would be good loan signing but wouldn't have got his PL winner medal tho

I think you are confusing Jordan Jones, a winger linked from Rangers and formerly of Kilmarnock with Liverpool young player Curtis Jones.

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4 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Obviously it has specifically been provoked by a link to a winger. But because my opinion is that we need one and that our wide players (well who have played there) havent contributed in a way that we need. 

We also apparently wanted wingers in January and I think Mowbray was quoted as such so the penny may drop. Indeed the Chapman incident will of course have more to it than him just being a winger.

It may do but I just don't think it's his way at all. I see no signs at all that the penny has dropped, and some unconfirmed rumours that we want a winger doesn't convince me it has.

Knowing Mowbray, if we really were in for the likes of Jones and the Polish winger, he wants to either just have them there as an option for maybe a dozen games a season at best for something different, or he plans to play them centrally. I'm pretty sure if we sign a winger it won't end well as long as TM is here.

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2 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

I think the club shares your desire for attacking defenders. That's the contributing factor to our defense leaking 60+ goals a season. Mowbray did bring in Chapman to play out wide.Injury and a bust up got in the way of that. Jordan Jones was one of a number of players we were linked with last January and we were among the clubs said to want to sign him. Rangers are looking to sell him,not send him out on loan.

I am sure it's mere coincidence that Mowbray is on holiday the week Bristol City are holding second interviews and looking to finalise their new managerial appointment.

Apart from deciding when Mowbray can take his holiday why don't you choose where he goes , as well ?

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6 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Just spoke with a Celtic fan there and he mentioned the Jones link. He said he was excellent for Kilmarnock and was doing well for Ranger, but that Gerrard took a dislike to him after an incident where he either got sent off or injured doing a bad tackle and never forgave him. He said Gerrard has a ruthless style that may not be in his own best interests long-term. 

It was both in one go. Really rash challenge that got him sent off and three-months out injured. You can see in the clip that SG was not happy about it.

 

Edited by JacknOry

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Have I missed something. What's all the talk about Smallwood. I thought his contract was up and we'd released him. 

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2 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Apart from deciding when Mowbray can take his holiday why don't you choose where he goes , as well ?

The LMA does run summer schools for football management. It's important new managers learn what not to do from the old fossils out there.

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30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We wanted Jordan Jones 1st I seen to remember. He would be good loan signing but wouldn't have got his PL winner medal tho

As a Rangers player that will be come as surprise to him.

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19 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Apart from deciding when Mowbray can take his holiday why don't you choose where he goes , as well ?

You really are his number one fanboy aren't you 😂

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17 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

It may do but I just don't think it's his way at all. I see no signs at all that the penny has dropped, and some unconfirmed rumours that we want a winger doesn't convince me it has.

Knowing Mowbray, if we really were in for the likes of Jones and the Polish winger, he wants to either just have them there as an option for maybe a dozen games a season at best for something different, or he plans to play them centrally. I'm pretty sure if we sign a winger it won't end well as long as TM is here.

I think that the wide areas have been ineffective across the whole of Mowbrays reign. A bad achilles heel. He has been overly reliant on goals from central positons the Dack and Graham partnership and of course with one injured and the other on the wane and now gone, Armstrong started scoring centrally. The quotes from the article post January transfer window basically admitted an attempt was made to sign Atsu, who individually is shit, but it gave me a bit of hope that he would at least consider actual wide players. Not asking for old school crossers into the box everytime as that wouldnt suit but players who can play the position ans contribute in an attacking sense. You look around the league, Benrahma, Harrison, Mbuemo, Diangana, Phillips, Grosicki, Costa, Lolley, Jed Wallace, Mendez Laing, Hoilett, Murphy x2 even the likes of Sammy Ameobi, Barkhuizen, Sinclair, Jamal Lowe, Kadeem Harris, Eliasson, Bela, Osayi Samuel, McLean, Ince etc. All far more effective and proving that wingers do have value, often in teams who do NOT possess an Armstrong AND a Dack.

The only exceptions where an Armstrong hot spell in League 1, but he is better central, and Antonsson had a bit of a goal rush. Weve had "defensive wingers" such as Bennett, an ageing Conway and a horribly wasted Reed contributing precious little in attack. Weve had naturally central players like Holtby, Buckley, Rothwell, Payne, Palmer who to varying degrees arent totally comfortable or at least effective there. And weve had strikers, Brereton, Samuel and Gallagher who again have all failed to impress. 

I know it might seem fanciful to expect effective players in wide areas but until it is addressed I feel we will struggle to push on. It is almost like Mowbray views the wide positions (including full backs) as not important and places where he can stick central players and crack on as normal.

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59 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

I think the club shares your desire for attacking defenders. That's the contributing factor to our defense leaking 60+ goals a season. Mowbray did bring in Chapman to play out wide.Injury and a bust up got in the way of that. Jordan Jones was one of a number of players we were linked with last January and we were among the clubs said to want to sign him. Rangers are looking to sell him,not send him out on loan.

I am sure it's mere coincidence that Mowbray is on holiday the week Bristol City are holding second interviews and looking to finalise their new managerial appointment.

The only time we've been that lucky is when Newcastle hired Souness.

Lightning doesn't strike twice. 

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Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

No - but I recognise an honest, decent man when I see one.

We all do that's why he remains reasonably popular with fans. However we can also see a man's limitations and a good one accepts them too.

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37 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I think that the wide areas have been ineffective across the whole of Mowbrays reign. A bad achilles heel. He has been overly reliant on goals from central positons the Dack and Graham partnership and of course with one injured and the other on the wane and now gone, Armstrong started scoring centrally. The quotes from the article post January transfer window basically admitted an attempt was made to sign Atsu, who individually is shit, but it gave me a bit of hope that he would at least consider actual wide players. Not asking for old school crossers into the box everytime as that wouldnt suit but players who can play the position ans contribute in an attacking sense. You look around the league, Benrahma, Harrison, Mbuemo, Diangana, Phillips, Grosicki, Costa, Lolley, Jed Wallace, Mendez Laing, Hoilett, Murphy x2 even the likes of Sammy Ameobi, Barkhuizen, Sinclair, Jamal Lowe, Kadeem Harris, Eliasson, Bela, Osayi Samuel, McLean, Ince etc. All far more effective and proving that wingers do have value, often in teams who do NOT possess an Armstrong AND a Dack.

The only exceptions where an Armstrong hot spell in League 1, but he is better central, and Antonsson had a bit of a goal rush. Weve had "defensive wingers" such as Bennett, an ageing Conway and a horribly wasted Reed contributing precious little in attack. Weve had naturally central players like Holtby, Buckley, Rothwell, Payne, Palmer who to varying degrees arent totally comfortable or at least effective there. And weve had strikers, Brereton, Samuel and Gallagher who again have all failed to impress. 

I know it might seem fanciful to expect effective players in wide areas but until it is addressed I feel we will struggle to push on. It is almost like Mowbray views the wide positions (including full backs) as not important and places where he can stick central players and crack on as normal.

As I've said multiple times - Mowbray's brand of football requires absolute worldies at FB. We don't have them and haven't ever had them under Mowbray. 

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1 hour ago, JacknOry said:

It was both in one go. Really rash challenge that got him sent off and three-months out injured. You can see in the clip that SG was not happy about it.

 

It’s impossible to give any amount of shits about what Steven gerrard thinks . He’s a moron at best 

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