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44 minutes ago, Mercer said:

IMO, as are Walton, Bennett, Bell, Williams, Smallwood, Johnson, Samuel etc and then we have the really expensive cr@p in Brerton and Gallagher.  

I am not at all convinced by Wharton but it's time for Mowbray to either sh1t or get off the pot and give the lad a chance or two or three!!!  Surely, surely with the experience he got out on loan he can be no worse than Carter.  In fact I'd put money on Wharton, over Carter,  being able to earn a decent crust out of football.

IMO, Mowbray only played Travis when he was desperate for numbers and had precious few other options and look what happened!

  

Pretty much - I don't respect the football acumen of a manager and scouting team that spent £12m on Brereton and Gallagher and thinks Bennett should be anywhere near a Championship squad. 

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Just now, Richard Oakley said:

We've Lenihan, Wharton, Williams, Magloire, Grayson, Carter and Mulgrew at CB. We're not massively short of CBs. If we keep 5 that's 2 out of the door. For me that has to be Williams and Mulgrew. Club's made it abundantly clear that it doesn't want Wharton. It's not his height. He's the same height as James Chester. He's not crap. If I recall correctly he was rather vocal about Mahoney being thrown out.

In fairness we only got Lenihan and Williams. Mulgrew is expected to leave. I reckon Wharton is the best bet of the rest. At least as backup. Magloire couldn't get a game in League One on loan and is not good enough in the air even if he's quick. Carter and Grayson needs a loan to grow. Wharton has experience and is tougher now. Can head and has a decent left foot. 

There is also a raft of promising centre backs coming through in the U23/U18. Like Isac Whitehall, only 18.

We need at least one more experienced centre back when injuries and suspensions kick in. 

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3 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

My point exactly he wasn't trusted.

Was trusted until his wild tackled against Portsmouth

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I accepted that there are exceptions to my opinion, indeed there would be positive and negative historical examples of all routes, older goalkeepers, goalkeepers signed from abroad, young loanees.

I also have acknowledged that these goalkeepers have talent and it is not a lack of talent but more a potential lack of consistency at the age.

The fact that these goalkeepers have potential is fairly immaterial to us if we are only loaning them. If we sign a keeper in his early 20s he is likely to be years and years away from his peak and any delevopment will benefit the parent club. For example with Raya, he made mistakes but once he became more consistent with age we would have benefitted. If we signed a younger goalkeeper but permanently the same would apply. If we loan a keeper it only really matters how good they are now in the immediate future, not what potential keeper they could eventually become.

If you can not understand my reservations about loaning in a young, raw goalkeeper from a Premier League club then fair enough.

Surely you would have all have reservations and concerns about most signings surely like Downing, Johnson or Adarabioyo last summer?

Wouldn't you have reservations about signing a player from overseas as you wouldn't know much about him ability wise or his game to game performance even if its an experience player? 

We might sign a keeper on loan but if he performs very well and if we do well and get promote then we could sign him permanently. 

Like I said before Philips would be good signing here. His stats looked good and we seems to be interested in him. His clips looked very good

 

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47 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

More of a tangent than you making comparisons between young homegrown players and seasoned professionals? 🙈

The top and bottom of it is that there’s really nothing to see. The most annoying thing about Wharton is why keep giving him a new deal? 

To be fair if Mowbray et al think he's "crap", he'll do for me.

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Just now, briansol said:

Carter and Grayson needs a loan to grow. Wharton has experience and is tougher now. Can head and has a decent left foot. 

There is also a raft of promising centre backs coming through in the U23/U18. Like Isac Whitehall, only 18.

Carter is a good prospect. 

Issac Whitehall impressed me in centre midfield and he is another good prospect. 

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2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Pretty much - I don't respect the football acumen of a manager and scouting team that spent £12m on Brereton and Gallagher and thinks Bennett should be anywhere near a Championship squad. 

Football acumen that just cannot identify their own players strengths and set up a style that suits.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Was trusted until his wild tackled against Portsmouth

5 Substitute appearances, 0 starts and he barely made the bench from the middle of February. Come on Chaddy let's not try to rewrite history here.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Was trusted until his wild tackled against Portsmouth

Surely you would have all have reservations and concerns about most signings surely like Downing, Johnson or Adarabioyo last summer?

Wouldn't you have reservations about signing a player from overseas as you wouldn't know much about him ability wise or his game to game performance even if its an experience player? 

We might sign a keeper on loan but if he performs very well and if we do well and get promote then we could sign him permanently. 

Like I said before Philips would be good signing here. His stats looked good and we seems to be interested in him. His clips looked very good

 

I was happy with signing Johnson. 

Of course but I would specifically be wary of signing a kid on loan to go in net. Thats my point.

Phillips has just come off a season in which he was player of the season for his club at this level and any development would be to our benefit if it was permanent. Different ball game.

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Whiteman update, met Tony last Wednesday....they want him but not before they've bought a goalie and a left back.  Midfield is the 3rd priority. If there is 2m left over we will put a bid in.  We have a pot of money.  Derby are very interested too.  The player wants the championship,  not necessarily Rovers. 2m gets the player.

I'm sorry. You did just say that GK, LB then CM is the order of priority? Not CB?

We're fucked.

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Whiteman update, met Tony last Wednesday....they want him but not before they've bought a goalie and a left back.  Midfield is the 3rd priority. If there is 2m left over we will put a bid in.  We have a pot of money.  Derby are very interested too.  The player wants the championship,  not necessarily Rovers. 2m gets the player.

2 mil for Whiteman? 

Do you know how much the pot of money is? 

I hope Centre back is second on the list after signing a keeper

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Just now, Ewood Ace said:

5 Substitute appearances, 0 starts and he barely made the bench from the middle of February. Come on Chaddy let's not try to rewrite history here.

You don't need to tell me about Travis record that season as I was pushing for him to be more involved in that season squad after seeing some of his appearances for under 23's. 

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I was happy with signing Johnson. 

Of course but I would specifically be wary of signing a kid on loan to go in net. Thats my point.

Phillips has just come off a season in which he was player of the season for his club at this level and any development would be to our benefit if it was permanent. Different ball game.

So you would be wary of any signing regarding of age or experience? 

I know about Philips. Done very well there but like I said before depends on the budget and different lists we have to work on. Where if we get a centre back off list A then we might only keeper list off B or C for example

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4 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Whiteman update, met Tony last Wednesday....they want him but not before they've bought a goalie and a left back.  Midfield is the 3rd priority. If there is 2m left over we will put a bid in.  We have a pot of money.  Derby are very interested too.  The player wants the championship,  not necessarily Rovers. 2m gets the player.

Narrator: Ben Whiteman signed for Derby County

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Pot of money? Will believe it when ive seen it sadly. A 2m midfielder couldnt be further down the list of priorities.

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45 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I just think he’s not quite got ‘it’. Must be doing enough to get contract extensions but obv not good enough to break through. Interesting also that he keeps getting teams out of league 2 but they never take him in League 1...It’s no coincidence, he’s just not good enough lads. 

Actually, I can't speak for his previous clubs, but Northampton have made it clear they absolutely do want to take him in League One.

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Pot of money? Will believe it when ive seen it sadly. A 2m midfielder couldnt be further down the list of priorities.

Tonys exact words.  I'd did a double take too

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6 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Whiteman update, met Tony last Wednesday....they want him but not before they've bought a goalie and a left back.  Midfield is the 3rd priority. If there is 2m left over we will put a bid in.  We have a pot of money.  Derby are very interested too.  The player wants the championship,  not necessarily Rovers. 2m gets the player.

So basically we won't get him as someone else will step in who doesnt mess around and gets deals done. 

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Just now, RV Blue said:

Narrator: Ben Whiteman signed for Derby County

Cocu and Rooney selling their managerial / coaching abilities and Derby County versus bumbling Uncle Tony.

Think it's a no brainer!

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5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

2 mil for Whiteman? 

Do you know how much the pot of money is? 

I hope Centre back is second on the list after signing a keeper

1st GK

2nd LB - Perhaps thats been sorted now with Bell, but i was under the impression Cunningham was coming back.

3rd CM

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Just now, Lucimo said:

So basically we won't get him as someone else will step in who doesnt mess around and gets deals done. 

He'll sign for someone else before we even sign either a GK or LB most likely. Or anyone.

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10 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Whiteman update, met Tony last Wednesday....they want him but not before they've bought a goalie and a left back.  Midfield is the 3rd priority. If there is 2m left over we will put a bid in.  We have a pot of money.  Derby are very interested too.  The player wants the championship,  not necessarily Rovers. 2m gets the player.

So, our season finished 12 days ago and a goalie is the priority.  Why haven't we signed one!?!?

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

1st GK

2nd LB - Perhaps thats been sorted now with Bell, but i was under the impression Cunningham was coming back.

3rd CM

Scary shit. So we're of the opinion we just don't need to replace Tosin, and that Del, Mulgrew, or one of the kids will do the job? Tell me you've at least heard CB is 4th priority, even though that's still scary.

Hope we are shifting 2 or 3 CMs too if we bring one in.

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

1st GK

2nd LB - Perhaps thats been sorted now with Bell, but i was under the impression Cunningham was coming back.

3rd CM

Bell has to be back up. so we need 1st choice Left back in. But the first 2 targets have to be 1st choice keeper and centre back partner for Lenihan. 

I wonder If Mowbray has already sorted a centre back position by him not mentioning it in talks with Whiteman

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Just now, Mercer said:

So, our season finished 12 days ago and a goalie is the priority.  Why haven't we signed one!?!?

Patience Mercer ;)

still 2 weeks before pre season starts

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Seems the classic scenario of the last few seasons, court someone decent then say we'll get back to you.

If you want someone the sign them whilst you have the chance otherwise why bother, oh yes just so you can say you've tried !!!!!

They shouldn't even be wasting his time the whole focus should be keeper and defense although i'm not having it Mowbrays sat there and told a player we have a pot of money.

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