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15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

And Rev, I haven't said we should wait another 12 months for decent keeper have I? Where did I say this Rev? why keep posting comments that the poster never said. 

We are interested in Philips but depending what are budget is we will be trying to get the best price thats suits us not them. 

You appeared to be trying to defend the position of not being willing to pay 1m ish for this lad because he is down to the last 12 months of his contract.

Unless you think we can afford to wait 12 months and will still be in pole position to secure him at that point I can't see the argument. If he's the man you really want, pay the money. If he isn't then you shouldn't really be in for him in the first place and should look elsewhere.

Of course, I and a few others don't think we have 1m to spend without sales. On the other hand there are claims the new budget is reasonable so we'll have to wait and see. 

The overall point remains that regardless of budget there must surely be better options in the wide world of football than falling back on Mowbray's default option of returning to Boro (and possibly HSH) .

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1 minute ago, Richard Oakley said:

Eastham and Fisher would playing in the first team, not U23s.

Baffling if that’s what we end up with given that Hilton is arguably the best keeper of the three 😳

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Chaddy, I have never heard you be even mildly critical of Mowbray or any of his signings(until the day TM himself decides they are shit after all and then you agree) , that's why I describe you as living in a world where everything is perfect. And as for hysterical, you are the only one hysterical with your last response to me. Not long ago you were saying Hilton should be no2 next season and we will get a foreign keeper as our no1 courtesy of our famed European scouting network. Now this boro reject is reported to be heading our way and already you are trying to justify the signing with stats. 

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3 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Baffling if that’s what we end up with given that Hilton is arguably the best keeper of the three 😳

I could see him being sent out as one of the players we send on loan to Barrow.

@1864roveriteWhen your manager publicly states that he hasn't clarity on his budget, it is reasonable to expect an equally public statement that he now knows his budget. I happen to think, Mowbray knows who he wants to bring in and how much they'll cost.What he hasn't got, is the money, as shown by his recent statement that he's not 'buying time' at Blackburn Rovers. Does that mean he's prepared to walk,if he isn't backed? I don't know. It is, however, the first time whilst he's been a Rovers that he's said anything like it.

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16 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

A couple of LT articles @chaddyrovers

Well I can't find any articles on the LT saying Fisher and Eastham will be part of the 1st team squad. Ive seen an article saying that Eastham signed a 2 year professional contract. Thats it. 

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

You appeared to be trying to defend the position of not being willing to pay 1m ish for this lad because he is down to the last 12 months of his contract.

Unless you think we can afford to wait 12 months and will still be in pole position to secure him at that point I can't see the argument. If he's the man you really want, pay the money. If he isn't then you shouldn't really be in for him in the first place and should look elsewhere.

Of course, I and a few others don't think we have 1m to spend without sales. On the other hand there are claims the new budget is reasonable so we'll have to wait and see. 

The overall point remains that regardless of budget there must surely be better options in the wide world of football than falling back on Mowbray's default option of returning to Boro (and possibly HSH) .

So appeared to be trying to defend the position. well I didnt. I would pay 1 million pounds but I wouldn't want to be paying anyone than that for him. Move on to next target

I haven't have we should wait 12 months have I? another false claim by you. 

If Pears is coming here as number 2 under a more experience keeper than fair enough. He not the worst keeper and the stats posted by roversfan99 shows his stats are similar to Raya. Philips is 2nd best on that list. 

 

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would think Pears would be coming here as number 2. would be cheap deal no doubt. At least He has played some championship football unlike our own Fisher who has no leagues games at this level. 

I'm not going to going OTT over simple link. I will judge when they signed here. 

 

49 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

why don't you wait and see who we sign for the transfer positions we want players for until the window is done. You are very judgement and OTT alot of the time. 

Yes his stats are very similar to Raya which is interested. Philips's stats are good.  

Yes 33 days to go and not many signings at this level. 

Also what you have overlooked that the club staff are on furlough and Blackburn is on Covid restrictions meaning that the club has been less active with certain items

Exactly. I think Mikey Delap posted on twitter at the weekend that they only been 8 signings so far 

Can you please stop with this shite everytime I post an opinion on a link. Obviously my opinions and comments assume that he is signing, as is the point of discussing transfer targets. Do I think he, Iversen, Muric, Phillips, Marshall, any of them are likely to sign? Poissibly not, I know that being linked with a player rarely leads to a signing so at this stage it is hypothetical.

I commented on Mowbrays scouting network and how signing the son of a former teammate of Mowbray, an opinion you clearly agree with having liked Paul Mani's status saying as such.

I said that I think it could be a good move if he was underneath a more experienced keeper, a point again you agree with having liked Paul Mani's status saying as such. I mentioned Marshall specifically. 

I also shared some opinions from Middlesbrough fans because obviously with such few appearances, knowledge on him will be minimal on him. You are constantly vocal on not caring what other fans think, fair enough, scroll past it because I do and I would suspect that other fans would be interested in what fans at his current club think of him should there be anything to the rumour as its good to know what we are getting. Their opinion was again mixed, but suggests what you would expect from a 22 year old, that he is probably not ready made to be a number 1 for a team chasing promotion.

I shared a statistic which was somewhat favourable in regards to his shot stopping, so again thats not "judgemental," just adding some meat to the bones in terms of our limited knowledge on him.

If I had said that I am outraged that we are even linked with him, or if I said that if we sign him I wont go and watch us etc then you may have had a point.

In general, my opinions on the 5 goalkeepers that I have seen us linked with have been very varied, 2 (Phillips and Marshall) I have said that I am happy with, 2 loans that I have dismissed (mainly on the principle that I do not want a kid on loan which is a consistent opinion I have held) and on Pears, mixed, very skeptical if he comes as number 1, which I suspect he would (would we pay a fee for a sub keeper?) but I much prefer that if the goalkeeper is young, that he is ours. I dont think that I am being judgemental by having these opinions, nor negative. (or positive, there is a mix of opinions)

If you are genuine in your first sentence, surely you wont bother reading this thread until the end of the window? The pestering journalists and debating and suggesting potential signings will stop and you will wait and only comment once all of our business is done?

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2 minutes ago, Lucimo said:

Chaddy, I have never heard you be even mildly critical of Mowbray or any of his signings(until the day TM himself decides they are shit after all and then you agree) , that's why I describe you as living in a world where everything is perfect. And as for hysterical, you are the only one hysterical with your last response to me. Not long ago you were saying Hilton should be no2 next season and we will get a foreign keeper as our no1 courtesy of our famed European scouting network. Now this boro reject is reported to be heading our way and already you are trying to justify the signing with stats. 

while I suggested you look further into your claim which will be false. 

I said Hilton could be number 2 here if we could only bring in a number 1 but Hilton need a full season of football and playing, developing his games otherwise we have a similar situation to Fisher again!

This Boro reject? 

I mention the stats that were posted by other posters but you attack me for trying to justify the signing which is hysterical cos all I mention was his stats being around Raya while mentioning Philips having the 2nd best which you failed to mention your post. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

I could see him being sent out as one of the players we send on loan to Barrow.

@1864roveriteWhen your manager publicly states that he hasn't clarity on his budget, it is reasonable to expect an equally public statement that he now knows his budget. I happen to think, Mowbray knows who he wants to bring in and how much they'll cost.What he hasn't got, is the money, as shown by his recent statement that he's not 'buying time' at Blackburn Rovers. Does that mean he's prepared to walk,if he isn't backed? I don't know. It is, however, the first time whilst he's been a Rovers that he's said anything like it.

I think the stakes caused by the pandemic have changed the face of football outside of the Premiership forever. There are so many factors, cash flow issues, uncertainties of crowds, no season tickets and no shirts on sale. TM is never going to reveal his hand and the cards he holds. All managers in our league will have to earn their corn by wheeling and dealing. Money buys are not going to be standard procedure whereas loans and freebies are. Even the big 3 who come down will be hamstrung by finance issues.

i am pretty certain Rovers will have their plans I do think it will take time to execute those plans.

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

I commented on Mowbrays scouting network and how signing the son of a former teammate of Mowbray, an opinion you clearly agree with having liked Paul Mani's status saying as such.

I said that I think it could be a good move if he was underneath a more experienced keeper, a point again you agree with having liked Paul Mani's status saying as such. I mentioned Marshall specifically. 

I do agree with Paul Mani's post 

I would want an experience keeper as number 1 with Pears as number 2. 

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I also shared some opinions from Middlesbrough fans because obviously with such few appearances, knowledge on him will be minimal on him. You are constantly vocal on not caring what other fans think, fair enough, scroll past it

I did scroll past it cos for the reasons you already know

Just now, roversfan99 said:

I shared a statistic which was somewhat favourable in regards to his shot stopping, so again thats not "judgemental," just adding some meat to the bones in terms of our limited knowledge on him.

Ive seen those stats but other stats like Clean sheets and how many goals he concended last season at Boro

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

my opinions on the 5 goalkeepers that I have seen us linked with have been very varied, 2 (Phillips and Marshall) I have said that I am happy with, 2 loans that I have dismissed (mainly on the principle that I do not want a kid on loan which is a consistent opinion I have held) and on Pears, mixed, very skeptical if he comes as number 1, which I suspect he would (would we pay a fee for a sub keeper?) but I much prefer that if the goalkeeper is young, that he is ours. I dont think that I am being judgemental by having these opinions, nor negative. (or positive, there is a mix of opinions)

If you are genuine in your first sentence, surely you wont bother reading this thread until the end of the window? The pestering journalists and debating and suggesting potential signings will stop and you will wait and only comment once all of our business is done?

What you view on Kieran O'Hara another keeper we have been linked with? 

Wait a second, I said wait to see who we sign 1st. Thats all. Pestering Journalists is something plenty of Rovers fans do by asking questions of the 4 journalists/news reporters who cover Rovers including yourself in past times. So are you going to complain at them also? I also enjoying watching the Rovers chat transfer videos as I think they have good suggestions. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-pears-middlesbrough-transfers-18747156

Interview with someone from Teeside Live on Pears. Pretty much as expected. Young. Broke through. Has made mistakes especially on crosses. Might be willing to move for first team football. Raw talent but nowhere near the finished product.

Sounds like our man.

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

why don't you wait and see who we sign for the transfer positions we want players for until the window is done. You are very judgement and OTT alot of the time. 

Yes his stats are very similar to Raya which is interested. Philips's stats are good.  

Yes 33 days to go and not many signings at this level. 

Also what you have overlooked that the club staff are on furlough and Blackburn is on Covid restrictions meaning that the club has been less active with certain items

Exactly. I think Mikey Delap posted on twitter at the weekend that they only been 8 signings so far 

No excuse.

IMO, small minded penny pinching.

Need a 'can do attitude', cut through the cr@p and excuses and get the feckin job done. 

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Just now, 1864roverite said:

I think the stakes caused by the pandemic have changed the face of football outside of the Premiership forever. There are so many factors, cash flow issues, uncertainties of crowds, no season tickets and no shirts on sale. TM is never going to reveal his hand and the cards he holds. All managers in our league will have to earn their corn by wheeling and dealing. Money buys are not going to be standard procedure whereas loans and freebies are. Even the big 3 who come down will be hamstrung by finance issues.

i am pretty certain Rovers will have their plans I do think it will take time to execute those plans.

Nothing you've just written is an answer to what I wrote.To state that you now know your budget is not to state your hand nor reveal the cards held.

Contrary to what you assert, most managers have had to earn their corn by wheeling and dealing. Loans cost money, too.  If the league gets their way, loans will disappear from the game. Freebies have always been a part of the game.

We're one of only 3 teams in the top two divisions not to have sold any season tickets. Why trumpet our way as the way of the future? For the second season running our shirts will not be available for fans to purchase before the season begins. Neither decision strikes me as a proper way to run a business.

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Anybody heard anything other than Pears?

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5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I do agree with Paul Mani's post 

I would want an experience keeper as number 1 with Pears as number 2. 

I did scroll past it cos for the reasons you already know

Ive seen those stats but other stats like Clean sheets and how many goals he concended last season at Boro

What you view on Kieran O'Hara another keeper we have been linked with? 

Wait a second, I said wait to see who we sign 1st. Thats all. Pestering Journalists is something plenty of Rovers fans do by asking questions of the 4 journalists/news reporters who cover Rovers including yourself in past times. So are you going to complain at them also? I also enjoying watching the Rovers chat transfer videos as I think they have good suggestions. 

 

 

You said I was being very judgemental and over the top which was totally unwarranted considering that I had put together a few thoughts, half of which you yourself agree with, and some bits from his performances, things like

Nothing about Pears that I put was in my opinion very judgemental and over the top. I tried to take both sides into account and indeed even said that I would prefer him over loaning in a kid because at least we could develop him as our permanent player.

I have not assumed that we are even signing him, I am just passing comment as I have with others we have been linked with.

If you are only prepared to comment once all business is done then this thread isnt for you and neither is taking any interest in rumours.

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Funny enough the Keeper Warnock has been linked is another 22 years keeper called Alex Bass from Portsmouth who has total appearances of 29 games. Yes 29 games. Hardly new battle hardened is he? 

here are link stories for Bass to Boro

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/crystal-palace-joined-middlesbrough-race-portsmouth-keeper-2928489

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/no-bids-middlesbrough-linked-keeper-18737546

I'll bet a pound to every penny you want to wager that Warnock ends up with a keeper that 95% of this MB would approve of versus whoever Mowbray brings in.

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14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-pears-middlesbrough-transfers-18747156

Interview with someone from Teeside Live on Pears. Pretty much as expected. Young. Broke through. Has made mistakes especially on crosses. Might be willing to move for first team football. Raw talent but nowhere near the finished product.

Thanks for sharing the link roversfan99. 

The link says he is good at communicating. One massive fault of Walton for me. Also says he has been poor with crossing and high balls, but at least he has been working on his game cos he has a weakness there. God knows what Walton was doing during the lockdown cos he came back and performed shocking poor. 

 

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Just now, Mercer said:

I'll bet a pound to every penny you want to wager that Warnock ends up with a keeper that 95% of this MB would approve of versus whoever Mowbray brings in.

You saved your money for your French Red wine collection Mercer. Wouldn't want to deprive you of them :lol:

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2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Why non-starter? Or we don't want more than 1 million pounds for a player who is out of contract in less than 12 months

why would he stay at Boro if he isn't even going to be on the bench there? 

Its a non starter because we haven't paid a fee for a goalkeeper in a very long time. Pretty sure even Steele was a freebie as Boro were desperate to get shut.

I would be very, very surprised if we paid a fee for a keeper this summer.

We are back in Bauer territory. Remember when he was supposedly demanding £40k a week to join. That was a load of baloney as is the suggestion now that Charlton want more than £1 million for this Phillips lad. 

They're in League One, skint and potentially won't even be allowed to start the season unless they find a new owner. The player himself has just had one failed Championship season and only has 12 months to run. They are in no position to make excessive demands and that deal is there to be done for a club in urgent need for a new number 1.

Just like Marshall at Wigan. Vast experience, Wigan need rid, lives down the road, ticks pretty much every box needed, deal there to be done. But it won't because we want projects.

Its all window dressing. Like Karl Darlow and Joe Hart were last year.

This Middlesbrough lad is exactly the sort of signing we will make, presumably because he will be free and his wages will be low and can be absorbed by the savings made on Smallwood etc. without the need for Indian approval.

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3 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I heard they were in a conference call whilst eating pears 

I quite like Conference Pears, but Comice Pears are a more uniform shape for poaching.

The ramblings of a Pastry Chef.

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19 minutes ago, Richard Oakley said:

Nothing you've just written is an answer to what I wrote.To state that you now know your budget is not to state your hand nor reveal the cards held.

Contrary to what you assert, most managers have had to earn their corn by wheeling and dealing. Loans cost money, too.  If the league gets their way, loans will disappear from the game. Freebies have always been a part of the game.

We're one of only 3 teams in the top two divisions not to have sold any season tickets. Why trumpet our way as the way of the future? For the second season running our shirts will not be available for fans to purchase before the season begins. Neither decision strikes me as a proper way to run a business.

Richard, at no point did I question your post or views. In fact I probably agree with it, well most of it anyway. I wouldn’t expect TM to come out and publicly announce he knows his budget I think it’s a bit of an odd suggestion to suggest or expect him to. On the commercial side BrfC have always been incompetent even when we had the glory days of Premiership football. It is something that just cannot be gotten a grip of which is sad. The point about wheeling and dealing is even more of a relevance in this era due to cash flow issues and warnock aside, in the Championship there are a lot of managers who have little or no experience of the kind of dealing that will be required for this season and probably next season as well.

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15 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

Richard, at no point did I question your post or views. In fact I probably agree with it, well most of it anyway. I wouldn’t expect TM to come out and publicly announce he knows his budget I think it’s a bit of an odd suggestion to suggest or expect him to. On the commercial side BrfC have always been incompetent even when we had the glory days of Premiership football. It is something that just cannot be gotten a grip of which is sad. The point about wheeling and dealing is even more of a relevance in this era due to cash flow issues and warnock aside, in the Championship there are a lot of managers who have little or no experience of the kind of dealing that will be required for this season and probably next season as well.

What makes it an odd suggestion to expect a manager who has publicly stated he doesn't know what his budget is to publicly state that he does know his budget? Why, if you're a selling club, would you deal with a club that doesn't know its budget? It's a waste of your time.

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41 minutes ago, Riversider28 said:

I quite like Conference Pears, but Comice Pears are a more uniform shape for poaching.

The ramblings of a Pastry Chef.

Vauxhall Conference Pears?

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8 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

We've been linked with Trevor Cherry and Mickey Mellon.

They're both lemons.

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