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Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Or he's not really worth announcing..

yeah or that, but right now if you've got straws I'm clutching at them

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12 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Or he's not really worth announcing..

He’s for u23s 

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I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target.

TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes.

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3 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target.

TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes.

Not sure he will be rubbing his hands together, more blazing if he doesn’t get them in.

Personally think he will get his 2 centre backs and a left back,anymore a bonus.

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13 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target.

TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes.

Yep. We can mostly appreciate that we have a budget and getting good players isnt particularly easy and there's not a lot we can do if a Premier League club decides to come in for a player we are after. But there comes a stage where we have to wonder if there is a bigger issue with being too selective or slow in our processes.

End of the day 18 months on from Mowbray's defenders speech to have still not signed one suggests there is a problem

 

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Hoping Cunningham comes back and he's 100%

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Trying to be positive  if Kipre is out of the equation and Sarr is possibly next on the list and a free agent,  we've still got 900,000 potentially to spend elsewhere? 

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2 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Cardiff fans seem to think he's staying.

Hearsay said that he'd signed up to some course at UCLAN this coming semester. Can't remember where I read that. Might have been on here. It could be total nonsense.

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Just now, OnePhilT said:

Hearsay said that he'd signed up to some course at UCLAN this coming semester. Can't remember where I read that. Might have been on here. It could be total nonsense.

He’ll be doing it remotely now... bloody COVID 

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WBA must be skint to have so called talks with a player they signing from a even more of a club ..

clubs just have levels of payment .. go in they offer a level and you take it or leave it .

Probably end up back in the championship this time next year .... but with a bigger bank balance ... don’t blame him really .... 

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3 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Trying to be positive  if Kipre is out of the equation and Sarr is possibly next on the list and a free agent,  we've still got 900,000 potentially to spend elsewhere? 

Bit of a sinking feeling for me if we don't get Kipre. I think it'd be a missed opportunity. £900k would have been a bargain for him - helped by the fact that he's leaving under a club in administration. If we can't entice him with a wage packet that offsets the low transfer fee, then it's fairly clear that we're strapped for cash, and worried about FFP for future seasons (thanks to certain transfers made in the past couple of summers, I imagine).

Still, Sarr would be a good signing to make, but again, wondering how difficult it might be for us to reach an agreement on wages. Mowbray said in the last summer or two that free agents tend to demand a much higher salary on the basis that they have no transfer fee.

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I think we all know what positions we need to strengthen but I think we also need to get some leaders on the pitch. We are woefully lacking characters.

Danny Graham didn't play that often but he had a presence which I think encouraged others and certainly brought the best out of Dack. With him gone who's left? Travis is a battler but doesn't really have leadership qualities just yet.

Won't be a popular suggestion but I'd go for Sam Morsy if Wigan are offloading. May not fill one of our problem positions but just what we need in terms of character.

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1 minute ago, Crimpshrine said:

I think we all know what positions we need to strengthen but I think we also need to get some leaders on the pitch. We are woefully lacking characters.

Danny Graham didn't play that often but he had a presence which I think encouraged others and certainly brought the best out of Dack. With him gone who's left? Travis is a battler but doesn't really have leadership qualities just yet.

Won't be a popular suggestion but I'd go for Sam Morsy if Wigan are offloading. May not fill one of our problem positions but just what we need in terms of character.

I agree, we're desperately sort of aggression in the team.

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12 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I think we all know what positions we need to strengthen but I think we also need to get some leaders on the pitch. We are woefully lacking characters.

Danny Graham didn't play that often but he had a presence which I think encouraged others and certainly brought the best out of Dack. With him gone who's left? Travis is a battler but doesn't really have leadership qualities just yet.

Won't be a popular suggestion but I'd go for Sam Morsy if Wigan are offloading. May not fill one of our problem positions but just what we need in terms of character.

Suggested him a couple of weeks ago.  Would give us that bite and attitude that's lacking. 

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21 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Is he the only likely looking left back in the whole of Western Europe ? Surely there must be other players out there ?  I suppose he could keep Dack company on the road back to full fitness. Nyambe is prone to muscle type injuries, Lenihan usually has a month out with a knock or a suspension. Williams rarely goes for too long without picking up some mystery injury. Then you have Evans and Holtby who if you're lucky might play 46 games between them. Up front Chapman is another one just coming back from a serious injury.

I'd rather sign a player that is 100%fit and ready for action when we sign him and make some space in the treatment room.

 

 

That's why I said 100% thought he was very good for us, compared to what we've had recently although that's not detracting from his performances

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23 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I think we all know what positions we need to strengthen but I think we also need to get some leaders on the pitch. We are woefully lacking characters.

Danny Graham didn't play that often but he had a presence which I think encouraged others and certainly brought the best out of Dack. With him gone who's left? Travis is a battler but doesn't really have leadership qualities just yet.

Won't be a popular suggestion but I'd go for Sam Morsy if Wigan are offloading. May not fill one of our problem positions but just what we need in terms of character.

Can't think he'd be welcomed in the changing room

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37 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I think we all know what positions we need to strengthen but I think we also need to get some leaders on the pitch. We are woefully lacking characters.

Danny Graham didn't play that often but he had a presence which I think encouraged others and certainly brought the best out of Dack. With him gone who's left? Travis is a battler but doesn't really have leadership qualities just yet.

Won't be a popular suggestion but I'd go for Sam Morsy if Wigan are offloading. May not fill one of our problem positions but just what we need in terms of character.

Morsy would be a great shout. Just what we’ve missed for a years. A proper hard man. Who cares if he’s not popular. 

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6 minutes ago, Bohinen 22 said:

Morsy would be a great shout. Just what we’ve missed for a years. A proper hard man. Who cares if he’s not popular. 

Why would you want to bring someone in who is going to upset the apple cart? You can get a "proper hard man" without p*ssing everyone else off. 

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2 hours ago, JoeH said:

And I think it's time there was a general discussion about Darragh Lenihan. At centre-back you can get away with a lot because not everyone can see the mistakes you're making. Lenihan struggles big time with his in-the-box positioning.

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Take this goal vs Reading. Lenihan completely out of position, Obita can run into the grand open space left by Nyambe who's attempting to cover the lack of an RCB, he can cross to the open lad who Lenihan should be with, or he can aim further for the two lads who've doubled up on Hayden Carter due to Lenihan's absence. Goal ensued.

 

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Or here more recently against Doncaster where number 11 and number 9 just 14 seconds into the game were given all of this space in the box, Lenihan is so deep that they can all arrive into the box, Bell is busy marking 26 and it leaves two players completely unmarked. Against a Championship side we'd have been 1-0 down here.

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And this is a little more general, but an issue with our defence in general, including Lenihan, is a lack of urgency to get out when the ball is cleared. Bell plays a shit ball out to their man on the edge and the line meanders out towards the ball carrier. Leaves the shot, and three open players unmarked in the box for him to choose from. Goal ensues.

I believe we conceded least goals from corners last season; lenihan will do for me.

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Birmingham doing some decent business. Just signed Adam Clayton on a free transfer.

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Signing Morsy would not piss me off. Just what's needed, it will not happen as he favours ripped jeans.

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7 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Signing Morsy would not piss me off. Just what's needed, it will not happen as he favours ripped jeans.

Wouldn't piss you off, would piss the squad off.

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