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3 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

Completely gutted when he left cos he was one of our own that was obviously PL quality.

Massively shit decision to flog Raya.

David Dunn is one of our own. David Raya isn't, despite his amazing progression through our academy system into the first team. 

Too many mistakes, and of course all keepers have a catalogue of howlers. I can still see the Collymore / Flowers bobble 😨 

If Raya does move to Arsenal for the money being talked about and we take a cut then it's an absolute result imo 🤑

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7 hours ago, Ben Frost said:

David Dunn is one of our own. David Raya isn't, despite his amazing progression through our academy system into the first team. 

Curious. What qualifies a player to be "one of our own"?

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10 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

All about opinions. I know what I saw and Raya is not a top keeper. He may become one but he isn’t. Arsenals decision to buy Raya isn’t because he’s blown anyone’s socks off it’s because of his relationship to the coach. Good luck to him. Fantastic move...but I feel the need to use terminology that is often mentioned on here.

Lets not re-write history on Raya. When we sold him, very few if any were too bothered. He was a very inconsistent performer.

On 06/09/2019 at 18:40, 47er said:

Well I'm on the record as opposing Raya's sale so that doesn't make happy reading. As I said at the time they'll get a fee for him that will dwarf the £3M we got

Edited by 47er

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https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-transfers-european-scouting-18925895

'One name that was touted as a left-back candidate was former Hannover 96 defender Miiko Albornoz, but it's to our understanding that the 29-year-old salary demands are excessive, which has put off clubs in the 2. Bundesliga and Eredivisie'

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44 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-transfers-european-scouting-18925895

'One name that was touted as a left-back candidate was former Hannover 96 defender Miiko Albornoz, but it's to our understanding that the 29-year-old salary demands are excessive, which has put off clubs in the 2. Bundesliga and Eredivisie'

Good player. Poor character by the looks of it.

We have also made an offer for James Garner as well. As I have been saying for weeks now, we do need a defensive midfield reinforcement to close down the opposition.

Edited by RovingRover

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17 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Did you say that when he was chucking them in season before last? 

Still thought he was a good young keeper. In fact up until his face injury, I thought he was immense. 

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11 hours ago, S8 & Blue said:

Have to disagree. Yes he made some mistakes but he’s a young and dynamic keeper. From the moment he was in the first team you could see he had the potential to be top class. Who knows what season we would’ve had last year with him in the sticks.

He makes some saves that he’s no right to make and he’s comfortable with the ball. With better coaching and more experience polishing up his decision making he’ll really be right up there.

Lad’s just 24 too. Could have the best part of a 15 year career in the top flight, starter or no.

Completely gutted when he left cos he was one of our own that was obviously PL quality.

Would be like selling Trav for £3-5m now.

 

Massively shit decision to flog Raya.

Totally agree.

Arteta has been a revelation at Arsenal and totally transformed them in just 9 months - no evolution and slow build with Arteta!!!

IMO, just underlines why the dinosaurian Mowbray (and his staff) needs replacing with a dynamic, hungry and inventive young manager.

I don't think we are going anywhere with Mowbray and the sooner the penny drops with our owners and the happy clappers then the better. 

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Just now, 1864roverite said:

The decision to sell RAYA was made once he wanted to leave it’s as simple as that !

And at that point, any football oriented business person should have worked out what was the best way for the Rovers to profit from his likely departure, based on his obvious potential and likely trajectory into the Premier League. That simple calculation just doesn't appear to have been done, and instead a very basic and hurried 'deal' was cobbled together by people who were (and still are) clearly out of their depth at this level. We might as well have sold him on eBay....

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5 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

The decision to sell RAYA was made once he wanted to leave it’s as simple as that !

It is not as simple as that!

I think Mowbray hung him out to dry on a number of occasions and, additionally, I think Raya, unsurprisingly, had very little respect for Benson our goalie coach and that is based upon what I saw with my own eyes.

No wonder, IMO, Raya wanted out.

Edited by Mercer

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I personally thought selling him was a big mistake (especially at that price), compounded when I saw a loanee coming in - popadom hands at that.

However, I was partially sated by the fact we’d, of course, have bolted on a substantial sell on fee with the sale. If it is as derisory as being made out, then Waggott is an even bigger fool than I already thought he was.

Edited by Mattyblue

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I disagree Raya was really not that good especially as some seem to think. That is my opinion of course. As good a shot stopper he was he still had many flaws. Top goal keepers go for big bucks Raya is not a top goalie yet

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5 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

I disagree Raya was really not that good especially as some seem to think. That is my opinion of course. As good a shot stopper he was he still had many flaws. Top goal keepers go for big bucks Raya is not a top goalie yet

What the hell are you chatting? No one is saying Raya is some mega bucks world class keeper. But the facts are, he was worth far more than the 3 million we sold him for and he is far better than any keeper the club has had since

Edited by CambridgeRover

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3 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Lenihan needs to be moved on with Williams. I think Lenihan could be the worst one out of the two 

Lenihan isn't doing great but a season with an 'Ayala' type player would benefit him. Needs an experienced head along side him.

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8 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

Lenihan needs to be moved on with Williams. I think Lenihan could be the worst one out of the two 

If Lenihan was bought under the Coyle era then he would get just as much stick as Williams. I think he’s a better player than Derek but his mistakes seem to go a lot more unnoticed imo.

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8 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

What the hell are you chatting? No one is saying Raya is some mega bucks world class keeper. But the facts are, he was worth far more than the 3 million we sold him for and he is far better than any keeper the club has had since

He didn’t want to be here. Hindsight is great but I don’t think anyone would have expected Arsenal to come in for him after one season away. He was better than Walton and we probably should have got a slightly higher fee but not by much. £10m is a ridiculous price to pay for him.

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1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-transfers-european-scouting-18925895

'One name that was touted as a left-back candidate was former Hannover 96 defender Miiko Albornoz, but it's to our understanding that the 29-year-old salary demands are excessive, which has put off clubs in the 2. Bundesliga and Eredivisie'

Looked into this lad about 70/80 pages back on the thread. Data and video analysis looks awesome, seems to be exactly what we’re after.

But as has been mentioned by a few posters, off the field issues make this a grey area deal. Wages could potentially be a snag but can see us having interest here. 

Ability wise he’s definitely an improvement on Amari’i Bell, five fold.

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29 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

What the hell are you chatting? No one is saying Raya is some mega bucks world class keeper. But the facts are, he was worth far more than the 3 million we sold him for and he is far better than any keeper the club has had since

How do you work out he is worth more than £3m? Where is the evidence to back up your claim? In 50 yrs of watching Rovers I’ve seen the likes of Bradshaw, Jones, Gennoe, Flowers, Bunn, Filan and many more including Brad Friedel. Raya doesn’t come anywhere near them in terms of class. He was not worth over £3m last year. So if and when he does move on then the few Rovers will have received will be in excess of £5m which is very good value for a player who cost faff all. Is he any better than Walton? Stats might say they are in a par with each other it’s what’s in front of them that’s the issue

Edited by 1864roverite

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