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2 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

An obvious point perhaps, but O'Connell is only a Prem defender because he plays there! He was in our reserves a few years ago and in League 1 with Sheff Utd 3 years ago. Put Lenihan in the Prem for a season and he'd be worth a lot more than £10m I reckon. 

O'Connell is a regular in statistically the 4th best defence in the Premier League this season. 

Lenihan a regular in the 13th best defence in the Championship.

Appreciate there are other members of these defences - but not a chance they'd offer 10m plus O'Connell.

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Only Dack would command a fee of £10M but its not enough. Armstrong is a striker so a fee for him would be more than he's worth but £10m for him I can't see.

There is an intelligent way to deal with Dack. Take him aside and remind him of the loyalty we've shown him and get him to sign a new contract with a trigger clause in it. If he comes back well from injury he'll get the move he maybe wants supposing its the right club from his point of view and Rovers get what he's worth.

I'm not suggesting a fee, he'll want it as low as poss, we'll want it higher. Its a matter of negotiation.

Whatever happens we cannot let his contract run down and somebody should be able to convince him of the unfairness of that.

Now is there anyone at Ewood capable of doing this?

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

Who cares about the money, I'd rather a competent player

I rather have the money if the player won't sign a new contract. 

 

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Just now, LeftWinger said:

O'Connell is a regular in statistically the 4th best defence in the Premier League this season. 

Lenihan a regular in the 13th best defence in the Championship.

Appreciate there are other members of these defences - but not a chance they'd offer 10m plus O'Connell.

I didn't say they'd offer 10m + O'Connell - just that Lenihan is worth £10m. Wilder would improve him no end, just like he has with Egan, Basham and O'Connell - all lower league defenders a few years ago.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

I rather have the money if the player won't sign a new contract. 

 

And Bennett at RB all season? No way, Jose

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It would have to be Arma, The one thing in my opinion which has saved Mowbrays season, Gambled too much on the potential sale of Dack and his main signings to date have not reached potential, After Dacks injury I dont think he has the balls to spend just yet until we have sold someone

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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

And Bennett at RB all season? No way, Jose

Did I say have Bennett at right back? No I wouldn't. I would buy a first choice right back who is good going forward aswell as defending

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1 hour ago, Paul Mani said:

Hasn’t grown or played enough yet Bruce. But I can tell you with even more certainty than Sparks did about Whiteman, that the two clubs who have been monitoring and making contact about him will not even flinch at spending 8 figures on him. He’s the “chosen one”...not my words!

 

I presume that you know and can share these 2 teams then?

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1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

I rather have the money if the player won't sign a new contract. 

 

The issue with that is if you're talking about a player of Dack's quality, if you keep hold of him he could be the difference in a promotion push. As we've seen for years with Rovers, if we get a reasonable offer for Dack (taking into account his contract situation), we can expect very little of that to be spent, on more than likely a player of lesser quality than him. Or even more likely, the money won't be spent at all and we'll 'replace' Dack with Holtby, Rothwell or Buckley and the money disappears into the ether. 

I'd rather have him around than cash in personally. As someone said above, lets put all our efforts into getting him to sign a new deal. If the release clause is too low, so be it. It will have kept him around long enough to see if we can sustain a genuine promotion push and will have guaranteed us a bit of money when he does leave.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Did I say have Bennett at right back? No I wouldn't. I would buy a first choice right back who is good going forward aswell as defending

Obviously,  but we all know that Tony would just slot his lad in there for the season, this isn't nornal Chaddy.  Anyway, I expect Nyambe to run his deal down anyway and end up higher than us.

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1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did I say have Bennett at right back? No I wouldn't. I would buy a first choice right back who is good going forward aswell as defending

I always liked Jaz Richards, released by Cardiff and we know how well its worked out so far with ex city

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2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I rather have the money if the player won't sign a new contract. 

 

Couple of problems.

The money is unlikely to be of any immediate benefit to the club. It is likely to be a small amount, probably will get swallowed up on running costs and even if reinvested we have a manager with a poor record of spending.

Secondly there's no evidence that we have even discussed a new deal with Nyambe. Given Mowbray can't even get simple answers from India he probably isn't in a position to offer him an extension. So if we lose him and have no money or approval to sign anyone then there's another hole in the squad to negotiate.

Before you know it we've got Williams, Bell and Bennett as our defence, if Lenihan gets flogged to Sheff Utd.

Relegation time.

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53 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

I'll believe it when i see it.  He's so far behind some 18 year olds, never mind his own age. Just don't get your fascination with the lad. You should put some meat on the bones about the 2 clubs

That’s the thing bud. I don’t have any fascination with him. I’ve said time and time again that I haven’t seen in him anything like what they do. There’s a few posters on here who seem to share their views but honestly, the coaching staff genuinely believe he’s the one.

The two clubs are northwest PL clubs and they’ve been monitoring him very closely for over a year.

When I said the thing about him being bought for eight figures it’s because at that time he’d played a couple of games and thought he might kick on. I was sat with a friend who’s in football and was looking at a player (not one of ours). We got talking to the scout watching Buckley and he was adamant that they’d be looking to bid for him at Christmas and were willing to spend upto £10m.

I was blown away tbh. I know they love him at the club but still...

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6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did I say have Bennett at right back? No I wouldn't. I would buy a first choice right back who is good going forward aswell as defending

With any minimal proceeds from a Nyambe sale (I dont see a market for him) we can get such a right back capable of doing both, as well as a left back. Besides, I thought that you wanted Rankin Costello to be converted to a right back.

Nyambe is the best we can get at the moment, yes he cant attack very well, but he can defend which is the main thing we need to fix. If he wants to run down his contract, maybe, but that is total conjecture. Hopefully he will sign long term and carry on at right back.

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I suppose if we have to sell before we buy, then Armstrong makes sense at 10m +. Can get a striker in on loan, and fill in the GK, LB and CB issues.

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I'm not sure there will be too much PL interest in Armstrong just yet.

He had a fantastic second half to the season but prior to that he had 3 and a half 'average' years at Championship level and 1 good season in L1 with Coventry. I think most PL clubs would want a bit more evidence before making a bid. I hope I am right because I want him here next season.

On the other hand, I believe Bowen has done well at West Ham after leaving Hull so maybe clubs at that level will be looking to the Championship.

 

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11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

With any minimal proceeds from a Nyambe sale (I dont see a market for him) we can get such a right back capable of doing both, as well as a left back. Besides, I thought that you wanted Rankin Costello to be converted to a right back.

Nyambe is the best we can get at the moment, yes he cant attack very well, but he can defend which is the main thing we need to fix. If he wants to run down his contract, maybe, but that is total conjecture. Hopefully he will sign long term and carry on at right back.

think you`re being a bit unfair on nyambe,he can`t show any attacking intent because he`s gets no support,hence he ends up stopping and passing square or back,a genuine wide player would give him an option of the overlap,we could have a potent weapon if we utilise him that way

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1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Where are they now?

I know where we are. Back to square one, needing a keeper (probs 2) and more defenders again.

Progress eh?

Leeds had a total of 7 loanees in over the course of the season. There is nothing wrong in principle in using the loan system to progress.

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1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

think you`re being a bit unfair on nyambe,he can`t show any attacking intent because he`s gets no support,hence he ends up stopping and passing square or back,a genuine wide player would give him an option of the overlap,we could have a potent weapon if we utilise him that way

I dont doubt that Mowbray has a real inability to select or indeed sign competent wide men but Nyambe is definitely a more defensive full back and indeed he has always been really reluctant going forward and lacking an end product when he does. 

My point was that the chance of signing someone at this time equally capable going both ways is incredibly unlikely and if Nyambe is willing to sign a new deal the obvious solution is to persist with him. The main priority is stopping us conceding so mang

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4 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Burnley have reported a profit for the last 3 seasons. That's why I'd imagine Dyche has been moaning about lack of transfer funds. Have you got a link to the admin? I don't remember Burnley being anywhere near administration.  

Burnley's finances based upon their last filed accounts are in pretty good order.  

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

Take him aside and remind him of the loyalty we've shown him and get him to sign a new contract with a trigger clause in it

There's a year option on his current deal.

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No point anyone blustering about Dack. He’s effectively got a two year contract outstanding. There’s no way we won’t trigger it.

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