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Just now, Sparks Rover said:

You don't know what you are talking about.  It happens all time...Mens football he needed and he's now got that experience.

Ferdinand went to Bournemouth 

Lampard to Swansea

Kane to Swindon etc...

Im sure there are a lot of lesser know examples 

What is wrong with being on loan 2 levels down? Never hurt loads of players who went on to have magnificent careers....the list is endless.

Beckham went from playing 4th tier football with Preston to Man United regular within a matter of to months. It does a player much better to go out and play men's football rather than at 20, 21 still only playing under 23's football. 

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14 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

You don't know what you are talking about.  It happens all time...Mens football he needed and he's now got that experience.

Ferdinand went to Bournemouth 

Lampard to Swansea

Kane to Swindon etc...

Im sure there are a lot of lesser know examples 

What is wrong with being on loan 2 levels down? Never hurt loads of players who went on to have magnificent careers....the list is endless.

Absolutely it can happen, and just because it's a much lower level doesn't mean you can't hack it at two tiers up.

I think what he is saying though is that it's an extreme assumption that just because he did well at League Two level doesn't mean he WILL do well at this one. As opposed to saying the fact it was two leagues below means he CANT. I think it's a fair statement. It's just harder for us, especially as fans who haven't been watching him, to feel safe in relying on him. Personally I have no issue with him and Del duking it out for 3rd choice CB. Then see how he does and if he can compete for regular starts. But I'll be worried we are in for a long and depressing season if we are relying on Wharton making that jump, even if it may turn out golden.

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1 hour ago, LDRover said:

Are they reopening Martholme Grange?

Never pulled an ugly woman in there .... woke up with 1 or 2 though😂😂

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1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

Absolutely it can happen, and just because it's a much lower level doesn't mean you can't hack it at two tiers up.

I think what he is saying though is that it's an extreme assumption that just because he did well at League Two level doesn't mean he WILL do well at this one. As opposed to saying the fact it was two leagues below means he CANT. I think it's a fair statement. It's just harder for us, especially as fans who haven't been watching him, to feel safe in relying on him. Personally I have no issue with him and Del duking it out for 3rd choice CB. Then see how he does and if he can compete for regular starts. But I'll be worried we are in for a long and depressing season if we are relying on Wharton making that jump, even if it may turn out golden.

I certainly would put him ahead of Del.

Shocking player

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Just looking at this Maghoma chap he went on loan to Yeovil 2015/16 season , admittedly he was only 18 at the time , didn’t play a single league game and they finished 19th in league 2 ..... and he couldn’t get a game 

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35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would like to give him a chance as part of the squad. He has alot of experience under his belt now. Why not give him a chance. 

Could this be another O'Connell situation here in a few years time 

The reason we might not give him a chance is because the manager might not think he is good enough.

I dont know because I haven't seen enough of him the last couple of seasons.

It is a big step from League Two to the Championship.

What I do know is that it is make or break time. Either he is good enough, in which case he contributes here, or not, in which case he needs a move.

But what we don't do is just chuck him in for the sake of it and hope it works out just because he's already on the books and it is cheaper/easier than bringing someone else in or because we are making some sort of point about giving academy lads a chance. Now that would be daft and dangerous.

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Just now, JHRover said:

The reason we might not give him a chance is because the manager might not think he is good enough.

I dont know because I haven't seen enough of him the last couple of seasons.

It is a big step from League Two to the Championship.

What I do know is that it is make or break time. Either he is good enough, in which case he contributes here, or not, in which case he needs a move.

But what we don't do is just chuck him in for the sake of it and hope it works out just because he's already on the books and it is cheaper/easier than bringing someone else in or because we are making some sort of point about giving academy lads a chance. Now that would be daft and dangerous.

The manager didn't think Travis was good enough until he was forced to play him. He also seems to think Bennett is comparable to Nyambe.

There's nothing daft and dangerous about having him as the 3rd / 4th option at CB (who, with the nature of the Championship, will be given plenty of time to prove himself). We still ABSOLUTELY need a quality CB partner for Lenihan. 

Edited by Exiled_Rover

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20 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

Cut and pasted from the previous ten close seasons

No, actually. When Venkys came in, they promised £5m spending on transfers in per transfer window. Aside from the window we were under FFP, some money has been made available for managers to bring players in on transfers. Mowbray hasn't had to sell anyone, whilst he's been manager.

What Mercer describes, however, looks to be our new reality.

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4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why are you like that to any player link most of the time that you don't know or based on one opinion or fans opinion like on Adarabioyo or Downing. 

Did the same with Muric before based on one game on TV. 

Why don't you give them a proper chance?

Tbf - you judged Dowell on one appearence. 

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3 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Signed for Brentford

of course

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Southampton seem to be overrun with keepers. I wonder if Forster will go out on loan again?

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2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I haven't said that you only be Positive at all, but you cannot form an opinion on a player you never seen and basing that on one post from poster on this site. Joe is right by what he is saying no one can form an opinion. Rovers have signed a number of foreign players over the years where fans have known very little like Nzonzi signed from a second division French Club which got relegated, or Samba signed from Hertha Berlin B, other players like Nelsen, Mokenna, Ooijer, Pedersen, De Pedro, Kalinic, Rochina and Formica over the last 20 years which some have very good signings or ok signings or poor signings. But my point is no way could you have judge how good they would be or not when we were linked or signed them based on very limited opinion or knowledge.  

 

 

 

Most of those were current internationals Chaddy...

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24 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The reason we might not give him a chance is because the manager might not think he is good enough.

I dont know because I haven't seen enough of him the last couple of seasons.

It is a big step from League Two to the Championship.

What I do know is that it is make or break time. Either he is good enough, in which case he contributes here, or not, in which case he needs a move.

But what we don't do is just chuck him in for the sake of it and hope it works out just because he's already on the books and it is cheaper/easier than bringing someone else in or because we are making some sort of point about giving academy lads a chance. Now that would be daft and dangerous.

I've seen him in a couple of playoffs games whether he is good enough for Championship is unknown until he plays in the league. His captain at Northampton and partner in the back 3 has had 2 championships teams trying to buy him 

I think he is good enough to be part of the squad going forward and with the Transfer window not ending until Mid October time we have time to assess him. 

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1 hour ago, OssyLad said:

Shocking keeper that Raya 🙄

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yup

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Wharton has been regularly involved in 3 team promoted from L2 in 2 years. He's good enough for at least a bench place imo.

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Just now, Mike E said:

Wharton has been regularly involved in 3 team promoted from L2 in 2 years. He's good enough for at least a bench place imo.

Certainly deserves a look at and a chance. 

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3 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Grayson shouldnt even be considered professional.   Without doubt a product of being a player/managers son.  

Wharton is on another planet in comparison. 

In your opinion,think you will find Grayson very much in the managers thoughts, as long as he’s over his bad injury. He will be in front of Wharton,Magloire and Carter,IMO. Good solid defender.

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Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Yes you did. After 1 game.

suggested you look back cos I didn't. surprised by Norwich signing him and where he fits into that team. Don't see him replacing any of the 3 behind the striker. 

1 minute ago, JacknOry said:

Most of those were current internationals Chaddy...

but did you( and Roversfan99) know they would be good or bad signings when they signed here. Thats was my point!

 

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Looks like Millwall are signing Troy Parrott on loan and have also got a deal for Ryan Woods sorted out already. Keep Jed Wallace and they will be right challenging for the top 6.

Aiden OBrien a player linked to us on here by someone (apologies but cant remember who) has joined Sunderland. 

Teams starting to piece together their side for next year.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

suggested you look back cos I didn't. surprised by Norwich signing him and where he fits into that team. Don't see him replacing any of the 3 behind the striker. 

but did you( and Roversfan99) know they would be good or bad signings when they signed here. Thats was my point!

 

No, you said you were surprised they signed him. A poster asked why and you said because you saw him against us and he was poor. So, essentially, you judged him and that transfer on one game. 

How he 'fits in' is just your deflection now, after the point. 

Edited by JacknOry

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1 minute ago, unsall said:

In your opinion,think you will find Grayson very much in the managers thoughts, as long as he’s over his bad injury. He will be in front of Wharton,Magloire and Carter,IMO. Good solid defender.

Looked really weak v Oldham for a defender and made a bad mistake. Wharton surely has done enough to at least be the top of that clutch of young defenders. Suspect he will be sold for a nominal fee if I had to guess.

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6 hours ago, unsall said:

Not quite 6’5’’ but if true let’s hope he turns out like Samba.

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What has the guy got that Tyler Magloire hasn’t?

Oh, yes, Spurs on his CV.

Next.

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5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

and never played for 1st team so far and now at Bolton on loan. 

 

That's the point he was signed for the u23s at 22 I think Chaddy 

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