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36 minutes ago, only2garners said:

Preston expect to put their STs on sale in the "next couple of weeks". With a 25-30% capacity at Deepdale they plan to sell first to their ambassadors, whatever they are.

You heard owt from Rovers regarding our ST's going on sale for fans who want to buy them?

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2 hours ago, JHRover said:

 

I'm not sure what Luton has going for it that means they are willing and able to shift them for a dump like Kenilworth Road whilst we sit by and do nothing

 

They must have more than their fair share of gullible Idiots.

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Just now, rigger said:

They must have more than their fair share of gullible Idiots.

Maybe the idiots are those who don't seize the opportunity to make much needed funds.

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Just now, JHRover said:

Maybe the idiots are those who don't seize the opportunity to make much needed funds.

With the doubt of when fans will be able to get in Ewood , any sales would be more of a loan than cash flow. What a good plan to get out of a financial problem. Take a loan !

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2 hours ago, JHRover said:

Maybe the idiots are those who don't seize the opportunity to make much needed funds.

Funds which can't be spent because they might need to be paid back.  Absolute lunacy to suggest Rovers are missing out on anything by not having STs on sale.  And I don't know why you are giving Luton Town sales updates on here - who cares if they have shifted 200 more since the middle of last week?  It's irrelevant.

Also, do you even remember posting the below not even 3 months ago?  Then, you were slating the club for not refunding you 60 quid for games you couldn't watch.  Now, you are slagging the club off for not taking money - almost on false pretences - off the very same loyal ST customers!  Which would inevitably lead to the same refund conundrum that you were so indignant about in May!

On 29/05/2020 at 11:03, JHRover said:

In terms of potential refund on my season ticket i have not yet decided what i am going to do yet.

I'm struggling with the idea that i should refrain from getting a refund to the tune of £60+ on games i haven't been able to go to. I have many other bills to pay, I don't get a great salary and already spend far too much of it going far and wide every week watching Rovers. Meanwhile Rovers have a wage bill of millions of pounds and to my knowledge nobody in the hundreds of employees down there have yet taken a wage cut or lost any money. Waggott is on £300,000+ a year, lord only knows how much the players are on, not to mention the invisible owners rep, and whilst it is nice they have deferred some of those wages this is a DEFERRAL and not a CUT or REDUCTION. 

I also have a series of other issues and gripes on my mind that are telling me not to wave away a refund. I am unhappy that the club dishes out hundreds of free tickets for league games whilst taking my season ticket money and i ask why i should subsidise that. I also ask myself why i should pay for games that i won't be able to watch whilst i fully expect a large number of non-essential people to be able to gain access to Ewood for these 'behind closed doors' games whilst many are being paid to do so - Community Trust, office staff etc.

 

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34 minutes ago, Ben Frost said:

Funds which can't be spent because they might need to be paid back.  Absolute lunacy to suggest Rovers are missing out on anything by not having STs on sale.  And I don't know why you are giving Luton Town sales updates on here - who cares if they have shifted 200 more since the middle of last week?  It's irrelevant.

Also, do you even remember posting the below not even 3 months ago?  Then, you were slating the club for not refunding you 60 quid for games you couldn't watch.  Now, you are slagging the club off for not taking money - almost on false pretences - off the very same loyal ST customers!  Which would inevitably lead to the same refund conundrum that you were so indignant about in May!

 

Why might funds need to be paid back? You really think the likes of Burnley are going to be writing cheques out to the tune of millions of pounds to refund all those who have bought season tickets? Of course they won't. All they will do is defer the benefit until such a time as people are allowed in to watch.

If Rovers decided to put them on sale it could be marketed as a 23 game pass. Those who decided to buy one would do so at a discounted rate of say £200-250 knowing there was a fair chance that they wouldn't be able to go to all the games for next season but also with the option for games to be knocked off the following year. An incentive scheme to get cash of people now. People would understand the club cannot guarantee a date for fans return but would know that assuming the club doesn't go bankrupt in the next 12 months that eventually they will get their monies worth.

You seem to have misunderstood by issue with the club's approach to refunds for those games last season. I never said I wanted or would demand a refund. I am in a fortunate position that I haven't needed that money back because I have managed to keep working. Some people not so fortunate who perhaps might need £70 in their back pocket. I thought the club's approach to the situation was appalling and that remains my view. Classless, insulting and completely out of touch, going as far as to suggest those seeking refunds were putting the club at risk of oblivion whilst a few days later the manager splurges thousands more out on players he had no intention of ever using. That was my criticism and I feel it was entirely justified. We decided to take a position as one of only three clubs out of 24 in the Championship not to offer any form of compensation, refund or future discount to those fans struggling or out of pocket. Everyone else offered it, whilst discouraging it but at least doing the right thing by loyal fans.

After taking such a poor position in respect of missed games last season, one of a small group to do so, we then also join a very small group of clubs who have failed to sell a single ticket for next season. 

Bizarrely the suggestion now seems to be that Covid 19 is preventing any season tickets being sold due to uncertainty that clubs face.

The reason I am continuing to post updates from the likes of Luton Town is that they are proving that tickets can and will be sold by the thousand at clubs that get their act together and come up with a scheme to do so. They are just one rival club well ahead now. It will take us weeks to reach that number, if we get there at all. It can be done. We are electing not to. Luton have a dilapidated ground not fit for social distancing measures and a capacity of just 10,000 yet have still kept on selling, and will be ahead of us in the game. It won't be long before Waggott is labeling them as a big club due to having more fans than us. I wonder why. Bizarrely yesterday or today someone was suggesting that the population of Luton is different to that of North West England which justifies the difference in approach. I couldn't work that out myself but it seems some will come up with any excuse. 

Again if you think Luton are going to be ring fencing that money and happily refunding all those people you'll be mistaken.

That is all Rovers/Venkys choice, in my opinion it is the wrong choice and i expect it will ultimately result in a significant decline in the number of people committing to the club. I am not comfortable with that, I will not support that policy and I will voice my concerns with it whenever i am able. I am 100% certain that people would buy now if they were on sale and as far as I am concerned if that number was only 1000 it is better than 0. 

If people don't want to put their money up yet and want to wait and see then that is up to them. But what makes me sick is when the likes of Waggott on his mindboggling salary pleads poverty and has the brass neck to portray supporters as not doing their bit whilst he does nothing. Things can be done. Just like we could get a shirt manufacturer that enables us to sell kits before September.

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How are clubs going to decide who get into stadiums even the sold thousands of season tickets but can only have a couple of thousands inside a stadiums?

How are clubs going to decide where fans sit and who with? 

What happens if the town or city goes on local lockdown can you still attend? What happens if you live outside that town or city? 

What facilities will be open if Stadiums reopen?

Will face masks have to worn otherwise you can't attend? 

 

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

How are clubs going to decide who get into stadiums even the sold thousands of season tickets but can only have a couple of thousands inside a stadiums?

How are clubs going to decide where fans sit and who with? 

What happens if the town or city goes on local lockdown can you still attend? What happens if you live outside that town or city? 

What facilities will be open if Stadiums reopen?

Will face masks have to worn otherwise you can't attend? 

 

1 - not an issue for us. We aren't going to sell more than 7000 or so and with no away fans we will only need 20% of our capacity.

2 - people would have to be realistic and reasonable and accept they might not be able to sit in their usual seat. I'd sit anywhere rather than not go.

3 - all hypothetical 'what ifs'. You have to get on with business. Should pubs and restaurants not reopen because areas 'might' go into lockdown in future?

4 - facilities? Aside from the toilets are there any facilities that you require that would prevent you from attending if they were closed? 

5 - not sure why face masks prevent tickets being sold.

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7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

1 - not an issue for us. We aren't going to sell more than 7000 or so and with no away fans we will only need 20% of our capacity.

2 - people would have to be realistic and reasonable and accept they might not be able to sit in their usual seat. I'd sit anywhere rather than not go.

3 - all hypothetical 'what ifs'. You have to get on with business. Should pubs and restaurants not reopen because areas 'might' go into lockdown in future?

4 - facilities? Aside from the toilets are there any facilities that you require that would prevent you from attending if they were closed? 

5 - not sure why face masks prevent tickets being sold.

1. What happens if its 10 or 5%

2. Some fans wont want that and want to sit in the regular seat or area. What happens if you sit with friends when you attend games pre Covid-19 but are part of different social hobbies?

3. Clubs need to have a plan in place in this area

4. Catering facilities? Fans with kids like myself. Fans who like to have a couple of beers.

5. Will fans have to wear face masks to attend stadiums. More and more places are now requiring you to wear them.

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35 minutes ago, JHRover said:

1 - not an issue for us. We aren't going to sell more than 7000 or so and with no away fans we will only need 20% of our capacity.

2 - people would have to be realistic and reasonable and accept they might not be able to sit in their usual seat. I'd sit anywhere rather than not go.

3 - all hypothetical 'what ifs'. You have to get on with business. Should pubs and restaurants not reopen because areas 'might' go into lockdown in future?

4 - facilities? Aside from the toilets are there any facilities that you require that would prevent you from attending if they were closed? 

5 - not sure why face masks prevent tickets being sold.

Spot on. Unfortunately things like sitting in specific seats and having a beer and a pie on the concourse are going to be impossible luxuries at first.

Many of the points that you have answered are logistical issues that as you say do not impact the ability to sell seasom tickets. The tickets could be transparent in their flexibility and there is no need to refund in any situation, any payment could be deferred. If there are a few people that would refuse to commit because they have no guarantees on where they sit, fair enough, but many still would.

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