Jump to content
Scotland1

Season Tickets 2020-21

Recommended Posts

My worry as a potential non renewer is the impact on prices next season, knowing that a large number have people already have money invested as a down payment it frees Waggott to introduce another increase as people won’t want to lose their ‘deposit’

You’d think that there would be a pledge now not to increase next year but to me all the little incentives, pledges, club cash etc seem to have been phased out

Id also be tempted to do the opposite of the offer, I’ll pay you £230 for a ifollow season pass but with the option for me to upgrade to a seat at the same price as and when we can get back in 

Edited by Tom

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is there really going to be a problem getting your old seat back when things get back to normal. Which could be years. 
 

when that time comes we’ll be lucky to have 5k hardcore left. 
 

You’ll be able to sit where you want. 
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

This is the issue i am having. Me and the person I sit with are meeting up to watch the ifollow games and naturally splitting the cost.

Me too.

Even for me on my own,

£5 x 23 - (£115) or £399?

Viewed objectively it's a no brainer. For people in a multiple ticket household it's even more difficult.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, Tom said:

My worry as a potential non renewer is the impact on prices next season, knowing that a large number have people already have money invested as a down payment it frees Waggott to introduce another increase as people won’t want to lose their ‘deposit’

You’d think that there would be a pledge now not to increase next year but to me all the little incentives, pledges, club cash etc seem to have been phased out

Me too Tom. Been thinking it through this afternoon and the more I think about it the more worried I am getting, not just for me, but for the future of the Club in general.

To me, the promise to make concessions against next year's prices only has any value in real terms if introduced in conjunction with the promise of  a blanket price freeze for next season. Otherwise the Club could just hike prices up again next season and the season after that to compensate for any refunds given this season.

And where would that leave fans who decide to leave it for this season? If Swag puts another £50 or so on prices next season then unless you bought this season you're looking at a minimum £450 - £500 to get in anywhere in the ground!

A huge section of the fan base could be priced out for good. I really do fear Waggott is taking us down a long slippery and ultimately disastrous road.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just for the sake of completeness, does anyone know what you get for paying £599 for a Jack Walker Diamond Club ticket?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, Tom said:

Id also be tempted to do the opposite of the offer, I’ll pay you £230 for a ifollow season pass but with the option for me to upgrade to a seat at the same price as and when we can get back in 

Far too sensible and very similar to what I've been advocating for ages.

When nothing was available I'd have signed people up to a membership at a nominal monthly fee. Could have been a token reward or credit given in the Club Shop, Concourses or against a Cup ticket at a later date.

Once it became apparent that only I follow was available for a period give upgrade everyone to that for £10 per game. Once fans allowed back in, upgrade them to full amount. 

The way round SW has actually done it has given him the excuse to phase out cheap tickets completely and blame it on Covid, and offer a potentially meaningless refund in real terms depending on how much prices are increased in following seasons.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Just for the sake of completeness, does anyone know what you get for paying £599 for a Jack Walker Diamond Club ticket?

Access to the directors guest lounge, and you also get to see Mowbray's miserable face at the post match press conference.

Oh, the seats are padded too.

Edited by MarkBRFC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Wycombe decision will be a further hammer blow to sales.

 

I know quite a few who were leaning towards renewing yesterday, that are now hanging fire......

well when the government wont let you what can you do? 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
44 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Access to the directors guest lounge, and you also get to see Mowbray's miserable face at the post match press conference.

To be fair, at £599 that's a lot better value for money than £399 for the Riverside imo.

Edit: once fans are allowed back in that is.

Edited by RevidgeBlue

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

I know we've disagreed over many things over the years - and still do - but I agree with you totally with regard to the season ticket issue.  I find it really sad that long standing and loyal supporters like yourself are put in this position.  I know the government guidelines don't help, but the club should have bent over backwards for supporters at this point in time.  It should have been possible - I thought it was to be honest - to have allowed supporters to miss a season and keep their seat for the 21-22 season.  Many supporters of my age may not fancy going to matches during the winter months if the virus is running wild - I know I won't go, despite buying a season ticket.  However, why should anyone, particularly those in the vulnerable category be expected to pay for a season ticket they may never use, simply to protect their seat for the following season?  I'm hoping we've all got that wrong and it isn't the case but if true that's beyond disgraceful.

At the moment we are doing what the club said it didn't want to do - selling a product that nobody knows if, when and how it will be available.  At the very least iFollow should be made available to every supporter to purchase - either through their season ticket or on a match to match basis - no matter how many vacant places their may be in the ground.

Sad, sad times indeed.

Thanks Mike. I know we don’t see eye to eye often but your comments are appreciated.

I worry hugely that Waggott is used to operating in different conditions, and different towns and cities, maybe he has got used to cheques just being signed (eventually) by Venkys and fans just paying whatever price he comes up with but he has potentially overestimated just how much he can keep squeezing out of Rovers fans. He is using their love of the club - the club that pays him an eye-watering sum - against them. That on itself is unforgivable.

How much further he goes with this is the real worry.

The air should have been blue at this week’s fans forum meeting. I look forward to reading the minutes to see just who has spoken up in defence of fans when this was (surely) announced.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Right.

The mate of mine who I normally go with in the Riverside has texted back as follows:

" Not rushing, might get a half season ticket. Can't see there being a problem getting in. It's a bit much."

So that looks like there's at least 3 of us down there unless I have a drastic change of heart

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

well when the government wont let you what can you do? 

 

 

Nowt. 

It wasn't a negative comment towards the club chaddy don't fret.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Ossydave said:

Nowt. 

It wasn't a negative comment towards the club chaddy don't fret.

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet 😪

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet 😪

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Sorry to hear your news about possible redundancy, hopefully it doesn't happen. 

The figures aren't looking good for Blackburn chaddy.  Latest I saw, today, for September 7-13 show 180 new cases which is an increase of 80 and our rate is now 120 in 100,000 whilst the average in the UK is 18.  

If this continues upward - and there is no suggestion it won't - I suspect it may be some time before the government allow fans back into Ewood Park.  Personally, I'm increasingly doubtful that fans will be allowed back into the stadium before next spring.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Bolton top of the list

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

For anyone who hasn't seen, this is the code of conduct for attending matches...

  • Sounds like a right hassle to be honest, I think i'm out for the foreseeable.

Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Paul said:

 Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Edited by MarkBRFC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
29 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Ah that makes perfect sense. I didn't realise you had the journey etc. Yes, for us it is go to Ewood, watch the game, perhaps bump in to a few friends and go home.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Perfectly understandable why you wouldn't want to come to Ewood having to travel those sort of distances.  As you say, the matchday experience for many supporters will be very different from what we are used to.  I meet up with friends who I sit with but, as we aren't in the same bubble, that will not be possible.  I suspect iFollow will be how most supporters watch Rovers this season as I can't see us getting anywhere near back to normal before the start of the 21-22 season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

thumb_inbetweenersreactions-i-dunno-i-th

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.