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Just now, Ossydave said:

Nowt. 

It wasn't a negative comment towards the club chaddy don't fret.

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

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53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I wasn't having a go, I was disappointed we couldn't hold a pilot scheme as it would have been good for the club, fans and players. 

I can understand why the government is being over cautious. 

 

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet ?

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

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14 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Well I was thinking earlier and realised barely anything i was doing in March has now returned to a true normal, so it would be incredibly optimistic to think football will for quite some time yet ?

Work - still nowhere near normality, haven't been in the office since early March, now told no return expected till January.

Pub - ok so this has been bearable for the most part, for now, but still miles from true normality

Gym - again bearable,  just lots of wiping with alcohol spray etc

Even if these pilot games go ok i think the local infection rates would mean we're excluded from admitting fans for some time, I think January would be optimistic sadly now, and even then it's not gonna be the football we knew. All rather depressing when its been part of of lives for so many years.

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

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51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Sorry to hear your news about possible redundancy, hopefully it doesn't happen. 

The figures aren't looking good for Blackburn chaddy.  Latest I saw, today, for September 7-13 show 180 new cases which is an increase of 80 and our rate is now 120 in 100,000 whilst the average in the UK is 18.  

If this continues upward - and there is no suggestion it won't - I suspect it may be some time before the government allow fans back into Ewood Park.  Personally, I'm increasingly doubtful that fans will be allowed back into the stadium before next spring.

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's good points bout Gyms, work and pubs. I've havent been in work since Mid April. Been furlough. Looks like I will be made redundant next Wednesday. 

Been in pubs and restaurants. The only difference is not being allow to go bar and stand there. order by app in most restaurants I've been in. 

Blackburn isnt in the top 5 of the number of total cases in the last 7 days. I've seen data that say only 61 total cases. Worst areas are Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford and Manchester(I think). 

Bolton top of the list

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23 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

For anyone who hasn't seen, this is the code of conduct for attending matches...

  • Sounds like a right hassle to be honest, I think i'm out for the foreseeable.

Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

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1 hour ago, Paul said:

 Can I ask why it's a hassle? Celebrating and singing aside all of these points we are being asked to accept in our day to day lives. None of it surprises me though I was surprised, and pleased, to see the club issue a Code of Conduct.

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

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29 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Ah that makes perfect sense. I didn't realise you had the journey etc. Yes, for us it is go to Ewood, watch the game, perhaps bump in to a few friends and go home.

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51 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I understand the code of conduct has to be in place obviously.

For me though, I'm not that desperate to go back under these conditions. It's a 100 mile round trip for me, one that I have been doing since the late 80's.

A huge part of the day is mingling with mates I don't see in everyday life, sometimes opposition fans, having a couple of beers in the nearby pubs or going to the strikers lounge with my lad (which is closed for the foreseeable). Get in the ground, have a bit of a sing song and have a good celebrate when we score or win.

Travelling 50 miles to be told when I have to enter the ground, when I have to leave, not be able to sit with mates, not to chant or sing, or celebrate when we score is just not for me.

I get for you that you are local, and its probably just about going and watching the football and then going home, for me I might as well just pay the £10 on ifollow and save myself a few hours travel where I can be doing other things. The matchday experience will be exactly the same.

On top of all that, my seat in the Riverside has gone up by £80 from last season.

 

Perfectly understandable why you wouldn't want to come to Ewood having to travel those sort of distances.  As you say, the matchday experience for many supporters will be very different from what we are used to.  I meet up with friends who I sit with but, as we aren't in the same bubble, that will not be possible.  I suspect iFollow will be how most supporters watch Rovers this season as I can't see us getting anywhere near back to normal before the start of the 21-22 season.

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As a group of six friends and family none of us are renewing. Whilst there are some reasons which Rovers have no control over uppermost in at least four of the group is the price increase particularly after a big increase only two seasons ago. Waggotts belligerence and lack of understanding is going to hit Rovers hard.

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I expect out of those fans that can generally ‘take it or leave it’ and just go out of habit and for a bit of socialising will be knocking it on the head in big numbers.

But if whole groups that are as Rovers mad as I imagine your lot are, aren’t renewing too, then we are in big trouble.

 

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What we should have done is admit that fans in large numbers will not  likely to be in the stadium until January so we should have based prices on these assumptions..

Season tickets should have been £199 with a free IFollow season pass, if we get fans in the ground before Jan so be it. The Away Ifollow pass should have also been half price for the season to ensure fans keep watching and stay in a habit of watching.

Doing the above we would have generated about the same income, reinvigorated fans, kept the watching habit going and people would not be as furious as they are now, infact we would probably have a lot of positive press, happy fan base etc. For Venky's could have shown them in a good light too, all in this together and they want to help fans who are going through a very hard time.

My issue is that as soon as fans get used to not watching and out of the habit of attending they never return. We are going to be very lucky to get 3-4000 season ticket sales and to be honest that will be our new rate once all of this dies down, our once hard core fan base just won't be bothered attending.

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1 hour ago, arbitro said:

And in that decade of decay local businesses have seen their income drop hugely as the home and away support has diminished. Also in the decade of decay Rovers have laid off lots of staff or vastly reduced numbers. It almost reads like Venkys have reduced their financial input to a trickle.

A Decade of Decay, a fantastic theme for the upcoming 10th anniversary celebrations of the V's takeover. 

Just need Swag to come out and tell supporters  to stop moaning and "get real" ,to get the party started

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I wonder what the 'general' (not just on BRFCS) feeling is about the club's price increase/policy. 

Having been upset by the club (waggot) closing down the DE for home fans, the continued decision of the club (waggot) to have the DE closed is just too much for me. 

I look forward to seeing the minutes of the 'fans forum' but don't expect anything but (more) grovelling from the 'fans'. 

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2 hours ago, arbitro said:

As a group of six friends and family none of us are renewing. Whilst there are some reasons which Rovers have no control over uppermost in at least four of the group is the price increase particularly after a big increase only two seasons ago. Waggotts belligerence and lack of understanding is going to hit Rovers hard.

Deeply concerning yet will Waggott and co. learn anything from it? I doubt it.

As it stands two of my three are unlikely to renew at this stage. This leaves me in a difficult position firstly because I don't want to go on my own and sit away from others and more importantly because I am very uncomfortable handing over £400 to fund Waggott's obscene salary with no guarantee of entry and have to pay an extra £200 to ensure I can go to the trial fixtures.

I've paid enough over the years and my database is close to 100% since 2010. I'm not being held to ransom.

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