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Wasn't Nick Harris one of the few journos who fought our corner?

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10 hours ago, perthblue02 said:

 No allegedly about it .

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The MoS obtained documents detailing Venky's legal battle with Kentaro, a fight both sides wanted kept secret. I took them to the FA's head of integrity, Newton, spreading them across his desk at Wembley Stadium in 2012.

'Where the hell did you get these?' he said, incredulous. He had no idea a club under the FA's jurisdiction was at war with an FA commercial partner. No action was taken.

Venky's settled out of court with Kentaro after several years."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4480682/Who-guilty-trashing-historic-club-like-Blackburn.html

 

Not exactly reassuring words there.

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16 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

What gets me is the say what you like about the start of their tenure, at least they have hung around and paid the bills. 

Without going into a huge rant on each point there are more holes in this than a Swiss cheese. 

1) For starters when does later behaviour/performance negate crimes? You don't see in court the defence yep them murdered them but you should see all the humanitarian work they have done since. And it doesn't work that way in the real world. If I bumped off a relative you wouldn't give a toss about my charity work.

2) Both analogies however are flawed as it's only because of Venkys that we need them to keep us financially afloat. Not sure how this has been forgotten or us overlooked. Surely it is a reminder of their crimes rather than a positive, but that doesn't seem to be the case. 

3) There's also the overlooked issue of why they keep us afloat. Imo it's because to sell or admin reveals too many dark secrets. It's not out of the kindness of their hearts. No one praises kidnappers or hostage people for keeping their captives alive or think they are good eggs because of it. 

4) The argument falls down massively because we are still a circus and run badly. The manager is overseen by his mate, budgets aren't set at appropriate times, managers come from a third rate agency and results don't seem to matter too much. Even magically forgetting points 1 to 3 it's still a farce and no way to run a club. 

Not sure why this isn't obvious to most Rovers fans but that clearly isn't the outlook. No idea why not either. 

It’s like we now have the owners we have because of the mistakes, arrogance and general uselessness of the previous owners, and we need to pull together to make the best of it.

Except the current owners are still the previous owners! As a result there is no cathartic rebuilding, no Phoenix from the flames, no new dawn, no fresh start.

At a club level, and ignoring the turnover of players, it’s like a predator guarding the carcass of it’s erstwhile prey.

Fans I speak to who play the “Venkys are keeping us afloat” card are not only stating the bleeding obvious and ignoring all of the reasons why in their pious faux-gratitude but are clinging to the “badly advised” rhetoric to pretend (as much to themselves as anyone else) that we are under some kind of new regime who pay the bills (aka add to the debt) and not the one that got us here.

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2 hours ago, Stuart said:

Not exactly reassuring words there.

At least somebody from the old boys tie network at the FA said something, our own FA man kept silent through the whole thing, before emerging to threaten supporters with court. :)

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