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Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

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16 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

How long until Mowbray tries to coach that exciting side out of his game? He's done it to Chapman and Rothwell already and I see that Holtby is the next target. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2020/august/holtby-encouraged-to-combine-skill-with-hard-work/

Ffs, Holtby already needs bringing off after about the 60 minute mark as it is. I've not noticed him being a slacker but if he isn't working as hard as TM would like it could be because he's trying to be impactful with the fitness he does have until it improves.

Obviously this raises questions as to whether you want him on the pitch in the first place if he only lasts 60 mins and doesn't give you the work rate you want...but he signed the guy.

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An exciting talent for sure. Still raw but I'd certainly have him around the first team this season.

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I've read the quotes now https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18686733.blackburn-rovers-boss-hails-surprise-impact-tyrhys-dolan/?fbclid=IwAR1xmYak98XBxi-AO1yblWlnJhG3u1TRDZMbk_jnZqOYzz-5neYsSprER8c

Reading that it seems very likely Mowbray will give him considerable game time. There is the comment about "if Gallagher was available" but everything else points to Mowbray looking forward to playing him.

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he does just what I want. He has intensity, he has urgency, he plays on the front foot, he’s positive.” Mowbray hoist by his own petard there! He’ll soon be coaching him to run into blind alleys, misplace passes, put crosses into the Riverside and shoot at the goalie’s midriff, just like he did with Rothwell.

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9 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said:

he does just what I want. He has intensity, he has urgency, he plays on the front foot, he’s positive.” Mowbray hoist by his own petard there! He’ll soon be coaching him to run into blind alleys, misplace passes, put crosses into the Riverside and shoot at the goalie’s midriff, just like he did with Rothwell.

From the tiny amount I've seen Dolan I don't think this will be a problem. Rothwell is inherantly quite a dangerous player to his own side. He run across the pitch a lot, runs from very deep and central, plays quite risky balls, is quite head down. As a result he seems at risk of losing the ball in dodgy areas that turn into instant counter attacks, and indeed does so.

Dolan looks much more a proper out and out attacking winger who plays wide and forward. So he's much less likely to be carrying the ball in those vulnerable parts of the pitch, so can in turn be left to be more adventurous.

I hope anyway.

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1 hour ago, joey_big_nose said:

From the tiny amount I've seen Dolan I don't think this will be a problem. Rothwell is inherantly quite a dangerous player to his own side. He run across the pitch a lot, runs from very deep and central, plays quite risky balls, is quite head down. As a result he seems at risk of losing the ball in dodgy areas that turn into instant counter attacks, and indeed does so.

Dolan looks much more a proper out and out attacking winger who plays wide and forward. So he's much less likely to be carrying the ball in those vulnerable parts of the pitch, so can in turn be left to be more adventurous.

I hope anyway.

Now and again you get young players who's knowledge of game management and decision making is older than their years. I'm thinking Dolan may be one of them. On the other hand you can get older players who've never wised up and are still making the same mistakes. Lenihan is just one I can think of.

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19 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Now and again you get young players who's knowledge of game management and decision making is older than their years. I'm thinking Dolan may be one of them. On the other hand you can get older players who've never wised up and are still making the same mistakes. Lenihan is just one I can think of.

As true in all of life as in football!

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He did a backflip summersault type thing in the fa youth cup 1/4 final at ewood. Don’t know if that’s his trademark celebration but hoping will find out a fair few times. 

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On Radio Lancs you get more sense out of Andy Bayes when it comes to the actual game than the supposed ‘expert’ Gally.

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There’s a fine line between giving a kid proper game time and relying on them too soon, Mowbray tends miss the line every time. Dolan is a kid signed for the u23s, we shouldn’t be relying on him to fill the winger position, no matter how good he looks in training.

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12 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

There’s a fine line between giving a kid proper game time and relying on them too soon, Mowbray tends miss the line every time. Dolan is a kid signed for the u23s, we shouldn’t be relying on him to fill the winger position, no matter how good he looks in training.

Mowbray said he's have played Gally if he was fit. I don't think there's any danger of Mowbray playing a winger on the wing anytime soon.

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Totally gone off him. Got a suggestion on Twitter "Since you like Thyrys Dolan, you might like Preston North End". 😠

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7 hours ago, OnePhilT said:

Totally gone off him. Got a suggestion on Twitter "Since you like Thyrys Dolan, you might like Preston North End". 😠

Tell Twitter it might like to go fuck itself with a knife.

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He may not fulfil his potential but is it unfair to say he seems to have more potential than our £7m man?

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Big thing to say based on 2 competitive cameos. Long way to go before we know what we have on our hands properly. Mistake today too for all of the bright attacking play.

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As opposed to what Brereton has shown here I don’t think it’s a huge leap 

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Kid has some serious talent, Brilliant on the ball and full of energy, Once he learns how to preserve his energy for the right moments and can last 80-90 minutes, Can’t wait to see how he progresses 

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Based on what I've seen he's seems a.nailed on future star. Last time I saw a player come through with that sort of quality was Hoilett. I'm so confused why Preston let him go. Mental.

He's the ideal last 20/30 minute player. Will get a lot of game time for us.

Should have scored on Saturday, but that apart his all-round game was excellent.

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On 12/09/2020 at 17:13, Tom said:

He may not fulfil his potential but is it unfair to say he seems to have more potential than our £7m man?

Oh enormously so. 

To be fair to Brereton though last three or four games have been his best. Starting to look like a reasonable asset, mainly because he can now quite regularly beat his full back. Has bulked up a lot. 

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Get his agent on the phone and extend his contract by 3 years. We have a ridiculously good talent on our hands with this lad and the sooner his longterm future is tied down the better.

His contract expires in 2022. Let's make sure we don't have another Connor Mahoney.

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Lets not get carried away and give a player with about 40 minutes competitive football under his belt a 5 year contract.

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