Tyrone Shoelaces 11458 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I'm not sure how accurate the BBC numbers are: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/top-scorers But if they are correct, they suggest you're being harsh with your assessment. 3 goals and 2 assists. 0.38 goals every 90 minutes on the pitch - 4th best at the club behind Armstrong, Dack and Davenport. He's scored with 30% of his shots - best conversion rate at the club. With 5 goal contributions (assists plus goals) there is only Armstrong, Elliot and Brereton with more. Step overs are meaningless if you watch the ball like " an hungry dog watching it's food bowl arriving ". Don't look at the feet concentrate, 110% on what the ball is doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sparks Rover 3372 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Step overs are meaningless if you watch the ball like " an hungry dog watching it's food bowl arriving ". Don't look at the feet concentrate, 110% on what the ball is doing. I bet he played a fair bit of futsal during his development. His decision making will improve with age (although I don't trust this lot to develop anyone - nyambe a perfect example of stagnating potential) and once he fills out, he needs to add to his defensive game and being without the ball. Not a starter for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 2853 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 39 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Step overs are meaningless if you watch the ball like " an hungry dog watching it's food bowl arriving ". Don't look at the feet concentrate, 110% on what the ball is doing. Then take the ball the player and launch them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AllRoverAsia 5345 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I am a great fan of Dolan. His step overs greatly reduce his forward speed making it much easier for a professional football defender to deal with. He should be majoring on using his ball control and speed to go down the flanks to stretch the defence and also run at speed direct into penalty area to shoot, pass or be fouled. Ronaldo was fixated on step overs in his early ManUre days but slowly learnt how to do them mainly when running at high speed. Dolan does them often almost stationary. Is one of Dolans assists down to when the ball accidentally bounced of his shin to Dack? after Dolan has basically run into trouble and lost control. Its not a criticism as it does show the value of getting into the box and as near to goal as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 1205 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 49 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: Is one of Dolans assists down to when the ball accidentally bounced of his shin to Dack? after Dolan has basically run into trouble and lost control. I don't think that is classed as one of his assists. Whilst I don't think that bit of play was quite the 'outstanding' bit of play that some believe, that goal doesn't happen without Dolan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 11458 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 33 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I don't think that is classed as one of his assists. Whilst I don't think that bit of play was quite the 'outstanding' bit of play that some believe, that goal doesn't happen without Dolan. I like the lad, he tries to do things all the time. He just needs to learn when to stick and when to twist. Like there are things you can do in your opponents half that you can't in your own half. Or like when your full back goes past you outside on an overlap on no account must you now lose the ball. Edited January 12 by Tyrone Shoelaces Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jim mk2 8198 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, AllRoverAsia said: I am a great fan of Dolan. His step overs greatly reduce his forward speed making it much easier for a professional football defender to deal with. He should be majoring on using his ball control and speed to go down the flanks to stretch the defence and also run at speed direct into penalty area to shoot, pass or be fouled. He has too many touches on the ball and needs to look up while he's running with it. It will come with age and experience but at the moment he's easy to defend against because he hangs on to the ball too long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 1205 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Let's not forget he's only just 19 and in his first season as a professional. He's definitely got the ability and hopefully the decision making will come with experience. I'd have described Raheem Sterling as a headless chicken when he was younger - he always had the talent, but not so much the end product. 35 goals last season and 31 the season before that suggests he has now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigdoggsteel 7560 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: Let's not forget he's only just 19 and in his first season as a professional. He's definitely got the ability and hopefully the decision making will come with experience. I'd have described Raheem Sterling as a headless chicken when he was younger - he always had the talent, but not so much the end product. 35 goals last season and 31 the season before that suggests he has now. By the time he was 19 Sterling had played for Liverpool, scored 10 PL goals and won the golden boy award. Surely he wasn't even far off 19 when he made his England senior debut? Dolan isn't anywhere near the same bracket for his age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 1205 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 46 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: By the time he was 19 Sterling had played for Liverpool, scored 10 PL goals and won the golden boy award. Surely he wasn't even far off 19 when he made his England senior debut? Dolan isn't anywhere near the same bracket for his age. I'm not saying he is in the same bracket - the fact is Sterling has improved immensely between being 19 and now - mainly due to his decision making improving with age. Dolan has the technique, hopefully the decision making will come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeeCee 1204 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I'm not saying he is in the same bracket - the fact is Sterling has improved immensely between being 19 and now - mainly due to his decision making improving with age. Dolan has the technique, hopefully the decision making will come. And proper coaching....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colt Seavers 864 Posted Wednesday at 12:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:25 I like Dolan a lot but he is deceptive. He is actually slower than he looks. His foot speed lulls you into thinking he is a quick runner but he isn't. He has a good initial burst over the first couple of yards which will stand him in good stead, but he isn't outright fast over twenty or thirty yards like a Rothwell or an Armstrong. I believe that this is why he has developed the step overs as he can't simply push the ball and run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackburnEnd75 780 Posted Wednesday at 17:54 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:54 5 hours ago, Colt Seavers said: I like Dolan a lot but he is deceptive. He is actually slower than he looks. His foot speed lulls you into thinking he is a quick runner but he isn't. He has a good initial burst over the first couple of yards which will stand him in good stead, but he isn't outright fast over twenty or thirty yards like a Rothwell or an Armstrong. I believe that this is why he has developed the step overs as he can't simply push the ball and run. Acceleration is more important than Pace, more occasions that you will get to use it. What he does have is good tight ball control, quick feet and incredible agility. A good skillset to have. From what i've seen of him his attitude is also bang on so there isn't much to worry about for me. Lads only just 19. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrone Shoelaces 11458 Posted Wednesday at 18:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:00 2 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said: Acceleration is more important than Pace, more occasions that you will get to use it. What he does have is good tight ball control, quick feet and incredible agility. A good skillset to have. From what i've seen of him his attitude is also bang on so there isn't much to worry about for me. Lads only just 19. I agree that real speed over 10 yards can be critical if you're playing out wide. If it gets you into a crossing or shooting situation it's enough. I like the lads attitude. Just what you don't want face as a full back when you've already been playing 70 minutes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacknOry 4697 Posted Wednesday at 19:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:14 Kids is young, eager and feet firmly on ground from what I can see - I just don't know if we have the coaching team to develop him the right way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tom 10353 Posted Wednesday at 23:47 Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 23:47 Let’s be honest whether you think he’s naive, lacks end product or whatever, nobody would have expected 3 goals, 2 assists (plus a penalty won and a huge hand in Dack’s goal) all by mid January from a kid we picked up presumably on peanuts for the youth set up. How much did Brereton contribute in his first half season (or 2 full seasons) here, or even Armstrong in his first half season in this league, even Rothwell who always looked a threat took a while to start delivering. Whilst the lad may at times hold it too long and not capitalise on his runs he’s also produced the goods by being in the right place to finish moves. Let’s not forget he’s also been dealing (admirably) with a tragedy in his personal life. Delighted he’s a Rovers player and hope he continues to develop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USABlue 1667 Posted Friday at 13:57 Share Posted Friday at 13:57 On 12/01/2021 at 05:55, LeftWinger said: I'm not sure how accurate the BBC numbers are: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/blackburn-rovers/top-scorers But if they are correct, they suggest you're being harsh with your assessment. 3 goals and 2 assists. 0.38 goals every 90 minutes on the pitch - 4th best at the club behind Armstrong, Dack and Davenport. He's scored with 30% of his shots - best conversion rate at the club. With 5 goal contributions (assists plus goals) there is only Armstrong, Elliot and Brereton with more. Perhaps I am but I am not going iff stats just what I see. I like the kid, a lot of but watching he gets me all excited, on the edge of my seat but I end up feeling ket down, more often than not. Mowbray is not his friend. Bottom line is this, we got a young lad with speed, flair, quick feet and a go for goal mentality for free. Those attributes can not be coached into a player BUT with the wrong manager/coach can easily get lost, this is my worry. He needs to make it impossible for Mowbray to keave him out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparks Rover 3372 Posted Friday at 14:27 Share Posted Friday at 14:27 27 minutes ago, USABlue said: He needs to make it impossible for Mowbray to keave him out. He was playing in the youth cup last season as an U18. He will be very happy with his own personal progress and starting every game will be way down his list of priorities. He isn't anywhere near developed physically, looks like a late developer to me in that respect. 6 mo the ago he was released by the nobbers, let's not over promote him.....he's doing ok and by no means anywhere near a first team starter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 10353 Posted Friday at 17:20 Share Posted Friday at 17:20 3 hours ago, USABlue said: Perhaps I am but I am not going iff stats just what I see. I like the kid, a lot of but watching he gets me all excited, on the edge of my seat but I end up feeling ket down, more often than not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoochie Bloochie Mama 3950 Posted Friday at 19:05 Share Posted Friday at 19:05 Rovers sign released Preston midfielder after trial spell | Lancashire Telegraph Signed his mate now too .... who is a Rovers fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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RoversClitheroe 1030 Posted yesterday at 21:20 Share Posted yesterday at 21:20 On 13/01/2021 at 23:47, Tom said: Let’s be honest whether you think he’s naive, lacks end product or whatever, nobody would have expected 3 goals, 2 assists (plus a penalty won and a huge hand in Dack’s goal) all by mid January from a kid we picked up presumably on peanuts for the youth set up. How much did Brereton contribute in his first half season (or 2 full seasons) here, or even Armstrong in his first half season in this league, even Rothwell who always looked a threat took a while to start delivering. Whilst the lad may at times hold it too long and not capitalise on his runs he’s also produced the goods by being in the right place to finish moves. Let’s not forget he’s also been dealing (admirably) with a tragedy in his personal life. Delighted he’s a Rovers player and hope he continues to develop. He contributes more than Gallagher and has a lot more strings to his bow than Gallagher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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