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  1. The aim this season was to avoid relegation, anything else was a bonus. Unless we get relegated, which isn't going to happen, then Tony Mowbray should be going nowhere. This club was at the lowest point in it's history before he came in, that cannot be rectified in 2 years. Give the man time to continue to sort the mess out. He's doing a sterling job for me, despite the current blip.
    11 points
  2. Make no mistake about it, while things have improved while Mowbray has been here, the club is still a basket case. Behind the scenes roles and remits are only ever loosely defined. We’ve witnessed power struggles and infighting before, and while the current set up of Waggot, Cheston and Suhail “international man of mystery” Pasha appears better than the Singh/Shaw/Agnew farce, god only knows what goes on. Our transfer business is baffling, and I’d question how much say Mowbray has had in some of the signings. We have a “head of recruitment” but a pitifully limited scouting network by all accounts - who does he report to? And I still maintain there is something decidedly iffy about our reluctance to sign proper defenders - a constant during Venky’s reign of terror. Whether it’s paranoia brought on by past experiences, I have a tendency to deeply analyse and think about all comments made by the manager... these recent ones down playing our chances of promotion, and in my mind the stature of the club, are irksome. Are they born of Mowbray trying to dampen Venky expectations? Does he really mean it? Is he trying to over deliver? Is it just the common rhetoric these days? I think Mowbray is naturally a pretty straight talker, but I get the impression there is something bubbling under the surface. Personally I think Mowbray gets cut a lot of slack from the fan base as a whole. Last season was adequate. Anything less than promotion would have been unacceptable. While he may get too many plaudits for this, he probably also shoulders blame for things beyond his control at times. There are certainly things Mowbray carries the can for completely that must be improved. Lack of fitness, silly defensive lapses, soft underbelly, pandering to certain players, team selections, limited tactics etc. So he’s far from infallible. If the only reason people think he should keep his job is fear of who his replacement would be, then he probably isn’t the right man for it. It’s a valid concern though. We are all approaching this question with passion, logic and above all else genuinely caring about what is best for the club - stances that will not be taken by Venky’s if and when the time to make such a call arises.
    10 points
  3. I'm somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd options. If it were up to me, I'd have a chat with Tony and ask him, "Do you intend to extensively strengthen our defence this summer?". If the answer was no or he showed some hesitancy about that, I'd part ways but let him see it out until or maybe just before the end of the season whilst lining someone else up. The problem isn't so much our league position or even the 4 straight defeats. These things can happen. The problem is the string of bizarre decisions (many of them repeating over and over), an inability to learn, complacency and an apparent lack of ambition.
    6 points
  4. Unless it's me, at least 2 of the 4 poll options don't make any sense whatsoever? "No he hasn't for a long time" Eh? "Just only just" Just only just what? Presumably the final option refers to backing him. If there was an option that said "Would reluctantly let him go because can only see things getting worse if he remains" then that would be nearest my position I have little doubt however that he won't be sacked barring something fairly catastrophic so that being the case I hope he guts the squad in summer, builds something fresh and exciting and proves me wrong.
    6 points
  5. Why focus on the 4% and not the 96%? 4% of Leeds fans (I'm being kind!) are racist thugs that wanna stab someone in the face. But I wouldn't waste my day focusing on them. Because I'm sure it's not a reflection on the 96% of upstanding, responsible, caring members of the Leeds fraternity.
    5 points
  6. Examples? We had no CEO of any description for nearly 8 years, then when they do appoint one the person they get happened to have worked closely with Mowbray a matter of months before? I'm sorry, I'm not alleging any wrongdoing, but expecting me to believe that there's nothing more to it than a simple coincidence is pushing it.
    5 points
  7. Surprised by how people have voted on this so far... I think people have lost sight on how difficult a job managing Blackburn Rovers is and what mess we were. No manager is perfect and everyone has their failings.
    5 points
  8. Baffles me that some Rovers would even want him out ? He brought you up last season and you are mid table in the Championship. Some big clubs in the league with big expectations and budgets to back it up. Sounds to me like quite a few on here have expectations way way too high. Reading the match day thread it's pretty obvious quite a few of the more vocal and prolific posters don't even go on yet are first to stick the boot in your manager after a poor run of results. Be careful what you wish for because like us you have had some shite at the helm in recent years and now you have a manager that has brought a bit of stability yet some of you want him out. Mark Hughes was mentioned
    4 points
  9. Are you for real, well it’s a good job you’re not in charge, we are probably the most normal, the club has been in years,back in championship first time round, consolidation this season,and hopefully push on next,and if we don’t then look at the situation, just can’t believe there’s a poll discussing the manager.
    4 points
  10. He's certainly been rinsed a few times this season!
    4 points
  11. As long as we avoid relegation then this season will represent upward trajectory on last season and the season before that. It is an industry based on results and league position and if we finish where we are then we've done ok given where we've come from. My concerns are less to do with the deterioration in our form since November, which was always likely to happen, and more to do with our bizarre recruitment and endless chopping and changing and the seeming inability to overcome issues that have been our Achilles heel since way back into last season. The manager deserves the chance to overcome those issues but I'm beginning to doubt whether he is able to do it. The fragile defence has been a problem now since early on last season. Also the 45 minute performances at home which rarely see us turn up for the first 45 minutes. There's of course the added caveat of what goes on behind the scenes. In normal circumstances I would suggest giving him this season, the summer and next season unless in relegation trouble but with these owners we just don't know what sort of thing is going on. It isn't as simple as making a change as it is everywhere else, as we've then to go through the pot luck selection process along with the 'trust building' process that Kean, Bowyer and Mowbray have all had to undertake with trips to India. Could we get a better manager than Mowbray? Almost certainly. But would these buffoons know where to find one who would be better at management plus handle all the other stuff, work within their bonkers system, pander to their egos and work with staff foisted upon them? Extremely unlikely.
    4 points
  12. I've made peace with our surrender of a playoff challenge. Realistically we were never really good enough, a combination of momentum and good fortune had us up there for a bit but since November reality has been biting pretty hard. Mowbray's decision not to strengthen in January solidified our acceptance of mid table. Until we stop conceding so many goals we're not going to get anywhere near promotion, and that's something that will require some pretty big changes in both personnel and coaching.
    4 points
  13. Mowbray always talks up his man management credentials, ‘good human beings’ and all that. He needs to follow up on the talk with this lad. Because for me he’s not in a good place. His head has completely gone for what I can see, no confidence at all and just basic standards of proficiency you’d expect any pro footballer to have, even if it’s just instinct, have disintegrated. I look at it this way, if he was from the academy he wouldn’t be anywhere near the squad, nevermind staring back to back games, he’s obviously starting games because of the fee, not because he’s pushing for it. For the good of the lad and the team he needs removing from the squad immediately before this ‘investment’ is damaged beyond repair (if it isn’t already).
    4 points
  14. First its Burnley and now its Preston that we are expecting to come to Ewood and turn us over with ease. That's what having Venkys as owners does for you.
    4 points
  15. Positives: We've got enough points to stay up. The team spirit and general harmony around the club. Home form Negatives: Shocking defence that costs us points most weeks. Mowbray's complacent attitude to defence that costs us points most weeks. Poor recruitment in general. Poor quality of football with emphasis on inability to pass the ball. Away form Constantly playing people out of position. ................................................................... He deserves the summer and the early part of next season as a reward for turning the club around. Unfortunately I can't say I have much faith in him taking us any further. The football is poor, the defence is worse and the recruitment is generally shit. His attitude is very complacent and he lacks a winners mentality IMO.
    3 points
  16. Would love to see Sparky back at Ewood. Five times the manager that Mowbray will ever be. He can organise a defence for starters.
    3 points
  17. So much for the kneejerk myth! The reality is that very few people want Mowbray sacked. Almost everybody appreciates the job he's done and understands that Rovers is far from an easy job. With that said, there have also been some glaring problems under Tony's management - in particular defence - that have never been fixed and remain broken with no obvious sign that the manager is aware or concerned about our appalling defensive record this year. A little reassurance from Mowbray that he's aware of this problem and will be looking into sorting it out ASAP would go a long way, rather than comments suggesting all is fine and we don't need to strengthen.
    3 points
  18. Ariel ability? Perhaps we could redeploy him as the Kit man.
    3 points
  19. Yes, you are right. If they can't be coached to be better, then he needs to replace them. I am starting to suspect we aren't as well coached as other teams and I won't go on about diet again, but I think that would suggest we are a bit behind where we need to be in that area also. Mowbray seems to trust the players to set their own standards, but when I hear our star man saying he eats a fry up on match day, it sets alarm bells off for me. The coaching issue also stretches to fitness levels, as does diet. Why do we concede so many late goals? Both could be a factor
    3 points
  20. I wish this poll had been set the day after the Hull City game...
    3 points
  21. Can the last one be re-written? I’m happy for him to stay currently, but I’m not sure I would say he’s doing ‘great’.
    3 points
  22. It's only a month or so ago that we gave what was probably our best display under Mowbray when he beat Hull. Since the collapse at Brentford we've looked pretty poor. The manager himself acknowledged that some players who were bought to win promotion from League One have started to struggle at Championship level and would be replaced. I suspect we will see a fairly hectic summer of transfer activity. What we need now are players who are good enough to hold down a regular starting position in the first team. A commanding centre-half needs to be top of the list followed by a centre-forward in the style of Graham. Mowbray is the first manager that the owners have given a long term contract to in recent years which would suggest that they see him as the long term option and rightly so. It's now up to the manager to spend whatever funds are available to spend wisely on rebuilding the team for a realistic challenge at the play-offs. It's going to be an important summer for the club in terms of transfers and one which will determine the future of the manager and the club.
    3 points
  23. The chances of them appointing someone better in terms of on the pitch stuff are very slim they'll just go down the usual route of one of whichever clients their advisors present them with that'll never change under this lot. They just got lucky with Mowbray it's as simple as that and for the off the pitch stuff you really would struggle to get anyone better than him he was the right man at the right time. As for how could Blackburn Rovers attract better ? Well we could it's utter @#/? to think we couldn't especially the shape TM and the boys have now got the club in. What they have to realise though is they just will not achieve it on the cheap just look at the Lambert fiasco and Coyle titanic stupendous stupid disaster. If a manager says he can get promotion with this squad or by spending peanuts or just wages on loans he's either lying or deluded. As always the problem isn't attracting a better calibre of manager to Blackburn Rovers the problem is venkys and their friends in low places !
    3 points
  24. I'd be chucking this Magloire lad in now, nothing to lose. Mulgrew and Rodwell as a pairing is an absolute disaster, the titanic turned quicker.
    3 points
  25. Only a third of those 122 posters think he's doing a good job. I don't think you can extrapolate a silent majority from that. Have you got a link to this overall fan sentiment survey you've done that represents the majority of the fan base?
    2 points
  26. Yep, think he's at the very least earned the summer window to show us he can genuinely improve the team. Have to say I'm sceptical based on his recent transfer dealings. I mean, our first team would normally be Raya, Nyambe/Bennett, Mulgrew, Lenihan, Bell/Williams, Evans, Travis/Smallwood, Reed, Dack, Armstrong, Graham. Only Bell, Smallwood, Dack and Armstrong are Mowbray buys, and of those I think only Dack has proved to be a significant upgrade. Armstrong has purple patches but still has a lot to prove. Bell and Smallwood aren't Championship standard imo. Reed on loan is good but unfortunately he isn't our player and probably won't be next season either. The rest of his notable signings, loan or otherwise - Gladwin, Whittingham, Samuel, Caddis, Nuttall, Leutwiler, Hart, Antonsson, Harper. Downing, Chapman, Rothwell, Davenport, Rodwell, Palmer, Brereton. It generally doesn't make for great reading. When you consider we will likely need a replacement for Dack, a challenger for Graham's spot, a centre back, a right back, at least one left back, a right midfielder and a central midfielder... that's a lot of work for somebody with a chequered transfer record at best.
    2 points
  27. This line of thinking is infuriating and is the reason why we ended up in League 1 in the first place. If you don't aim higher than your means you will always do the opposite and underachieve. This is the line of thinking that was more than happy for us to roll over when we are in the Premiership and see every last one of our best players picked off without a fight. Because "who are we to stand our ground" when Chelsea and Man City come knocking, right? Defeatist attitude leads to defeats.
    2 points
  28. If you were in charge of the transfer funds and you're wondering how many goals that £7 million striker has scored. Or you're wondering about the length of contracts given to aging players. Or the dour unimaginative tactics that are employed by the manager. Or the non existent atmosphere in the ground now that a third of the ground is closed and the fan base stagnates. (just a rambling post)
    2 points
  29. Coaching staff is the first thing I’d look at. We barely look fit and seem to get constant injuries. Get the U23s a new manager and look to promote Johnson as first team coach.
    2 points
  30. Honestly I wouldn't have. I have believed a few months now that he has take us as far as he can which is mid table. January really papered over the cracks playing 3 poor teams. All it took was conceding one goal at Brentford and the flood gates opened and all the frailties that have been on show this season returned. You say get behind him and the players but what are they giving us to get behind. January showed that we had no aspirations to compete for the play offs and in his comments the manager has basically said that the season is over and that shows on the pitch as the players are playing as though they are undermotivated and already have one foot on the beach.
    2 points
  31. Yeah well 96% isn't far off 100% is it.............
    2 points
  32. I'll put this here as it isn't specific to Rovers; Guardian - nepotism in football Guess who gets a mention?
    2 points
  33. It would be the mother of all remarkable coincidences for Mowbray to have had zero input into the appointment of Waggott as CEO and for him to just so happen to have ended up getting a job at the same club as Mowbray a short while after they were both working together at Coventry. The level of Mowbray's input into that decision is questionable but I think it is very safe to assume at the very least he put in a good word or gave the idea a thumbs up when suggested to him.
    2 points
  34. Iron Maiden - 2 Minutes to Midnight
    2 points
  35. Lots of knee jerk reactions on here per usual in response to a bad patch. 2 months ago it was all playoff talk. If Mowbray keeps Rovers up this season he has done his job. It's currently looking that way. He has his flaws, a good reason why Rovers were able to get him as manager in the first place. Mourinho or Guardiola weren't going to trap up at Ewood were they? I don't watch games but know that the team concedes too many late goals, and he doesn't seem to have a best 11. A lot of that is down to game preparation, ordinarily managed by the coaching staff. Again, as Rovers were picking from the bargain bin 2 years ago there's no one with Paul Clement's calibre setting the team up. I wouldn't be against getting in a new first team coach, but stick with Mowbray.
    2 points
  36. I said after the Leeds capitulation that he should go, as I was fed up with our weak mentality and poor defending. Two months on we are still mentally weak, the defending if anything has become even worse and the failure to address any of our problems in the January window only strengthened my view. So for me he is not the right man to take us forward as he has shown himself incapable of addressing the serious problems that we have.
    2 points
  37. Luetwiler, Williams, Smallwood, Conway, Samuel next season squad for me keeper- Raya, new keeper, Fisher right back- Nyambe, new signing Centre back- Lenihan, Mulgrew, Rodwell, new signing. left back:- Bell, new signing centre back- Travis, Evans, Davenport, Bennett, new signing/Reed wingers- Champan, Armstrong, Rothwell, new signing strikers- Graham, Dack, Brereton, New signing
    2 points
  38. Mowbray has his failings that's for sure. When we were languishing in league 1 in October, having just gone down and bought some tosh players I reckon he should have gone then. That said they stuck with him, oversaw a promotion and now we sit mid table. He's done a fantastic job in a year and even brought talk of promotion about. There's no way he should be sacked. Give him another season. It's the least he deserves.
    2 points
  39. He did, when he noticed the surprised reaction the reporter gave to the answer of a full English. He says it's all he eats on gameday. Slow release carbs like porridge should be on the menu on game day. Not a greasy fry up. You eat that if you have a hangover.
    2 points
  40. If the plan is to try and get out of The Championship at some stage, then Tony isn't the man to do it. He's had 2 years here. Last season we got away with promotion simply because of the relatively poor standard of the 3rd tier - we didn't exactly do a Luton and a lot of our victories were actually closer games than they should have been and largely because of Shrewsbury's poor squad they went to pieces at the end enabling us to avoid a nervy play-off situation. This season we've been largely found out, after many teams underestimated us early doors allowing us to amass relegation avoiding points. The tag-line for this current era (hey let's have a poll) would probably be something like 'square pegs, round roles'. Too many players being played out of position (often half the team). Over complicated tactics etc. Rewarding players because of misplaced loyalty rather than for footballing reasons. This is the running theme. The deal-breaker for me is the negativity. Including downplaying our own team, bigging up other teams to the point where it's laughable (what was it...Bury's left back is Roberto Carlos and Preston are the New 2003-04 Invincibles??? etc). Then very recently i've read certain comments from players about aiming for the play-offs which have been totally contradicted by a manager who got a nose bleed and gave up on the season in January. From a footballing point of view he's not going to take us any further and he's not suddenly going to go on a football manager crash course and change during the summer. He's already long established. Then when you add in the bizarre transfer window tactics (no strengthening of obviously weak areas and blowing the entire transfer budget on a dud). It just further tips the scales. Obviously we don't have any football men at the club to help Tony out and we're run by football hating lunatics, so who knows what is really going on? I think we could well be 10 points worse off this time next season in a real battle.
    2 points
  41. My view (not expressed in the poll) is that he's done okay at best, but needs support in certain areas. Dack aside, transfers don't seem to be his strong point so I would appoint somebody above Mowbray to deal with that side of things. Obviously Tony should still have the final say on whether he wants a player to be purchased or not, but it couldn't hurt to have somebody focused solely on transfers and strengthening the current team. There are glaring problems in our team that haven't been addressed for two windows now. If Mowbray is unwilling or unable to bring in the right players to improve us then somebody else should be tasked with it. Unfortunately with Venky's in charge we have no idea who would end up in that role. Just as likely to be a returning Steve Kean as anybody useful.
    2 points
  42. He deserves the summer. He has big job on his hands. Laissez-faire Mowbray needs to get harder. Get Dack off the frys and mayo. Give player power when necessary, but let them know who the real boss is. Yesterday's performance struck me as one where the players decided the season was over already. They wouldn't do that if they feared the manager. Stop shoehorning players into unnatural positions. Bennett does not need to start every game. Try and play football. Mowbray is starting to remind me of Martin O'Neill when Ireland manager. Constantly saying he has to play long ball football badly because we don't have the players for anything else. We have better footballers. Currently we are far too one dimensional.
    2 points
  43. Or the lack of ideas. Mulgrew hits it long to the right wing at head height where any of three defenders can take it before our one or Rovers defender hits it long and high for Graham who flicks it to------them! Has to be because there's no other Rovers player around. Credit to Graham though, I wouldn't fancy spending an afternoon doing that. Apart from one or two moves on the left involving Armstrong, what else did we offer going forward? This is pub football masquerading as professional sport.
    2 points
  44. Mowbray has never acknowledged anything is his fault. In the interview you mention he was bemoaning the fact we don't have a foreign scout and that Venkys needed to invest in the infrastructure. He was putting any blame he was getting firmly at Venky's door. Tony doesn't do culpability.
    2 points
  45. Rodwell had one good game and scored in another but looked average before that and poor since yet many would've had him tied to a 3 year contract on the back of about 140 mins decent defending. Square pegs for square holes please if they are going to tie up that kind of money, Wes Brown he ain't but the answer to our defensive problems he isn't either. Both him and Mulgrew are quality footballers but they aren't quality defenders.
    2 points
  46. That scenario has been banded about a bit recently and i'm beginning to suspect that despite what he says there wasn't any funds worth spending because it really wasn't enough to improve the team and I don't mean the Assombalongas of this world. We've had this before under these lot with managers saying they're keeping it dry when really there wasn't enough powder to set off a firework. Some of the stuff he's been coming out with recently sounds more and more like he's pleading with the owners for significant investment whilst trying to pacify fans, again not unusual under this ownership. After all the pay rises,contract extensions including his own and the signing of Brereton & Armstrong I think he might have been told that's your lot and he fears it'll be the same in summer. Just a hunch based on previous things here.
    2 points
  47. After today, we need to keep things as simple as possible in terms of how it has worked for us before. Going off who’s available: Raya Nyambe Rodwell Mulgrew Bell Bennett Travis Reed Armstrong Dack Graham Once all are fit and available: Raya Nyambe Lenihan Rodwell Bell Chapman Travis Reed Armstrong Dack Graham Mulgrew, Bennett and Evans can still be useful, but not as starters anymore where possible.
    2 points
  48. Think peacock and dailly have to take that accolade for me
    2 points
  49. For those keeping score, the number of times TM has taken even 1% of the blame, post match, for a performance and result in his two year reign = 0
    2 points
  50. Same problems, different day. First half absolutely terrible but then again, how many decent first halves have we had at home this season? Hull and Leeds? Either by remarkable coincidence, or by design, we nearly always witness abject first half performances. Time after time we are devoid of any real creativity or intensity in the first half and don't show anything of any note until into the 2nd half. I'm sick and fed up with it. Countless times the opposition look brighter, bolder, quicker, and we go into half time with a zero next to our name and very little excitement. Turgid stuff. I've been concerned for some time that Mowbray is tying himself in knots with his selections and tactics, and today took it one step further. It seemed half the players had no idea what they were supposed to be doing, half the team was moved around the pitch into various positions and formations. That might appeal to those who like to play Football Manager but I prefer to see a team well drilled, organised with a game plan that is stuck to and players who know their roles in the team. When i watch Rovers I don't see that, I see a team and manager all over the place, constantly chopping and changing, often for no real reason or to give people a rest etc. You get your best XI, get a formation that suits their skill set, and train them to understand their jobs. Numerous times Harrison Reed came running over to the technical area to speak to Mowbray and Mowbray was waving his arms around shouting. Seemed to me Reed was struggling to understand what the latest roll of the dice was. It must get confusing for people like him and Bennett when playing in 3 different positions and in 3 different formations, each changing by the game. The fact that we appear so confused, so disorganised and unclear as to what we are trying to do is solely the manager's responsibility. He has spent the season making needless changes, moving people around, changing formations and it looks like he's no nearer arriving at a set system or team which is very alarming. The speed with which we have disintegrated from being 2-0 up at Brentford and occupying a top 6 position to this shambles is very concerning, as has been our form since November, with the exception of that purple patch in January. Too many defeats and too many goals conceded - only going to end one way - if not this season then next - unless surgery is carried out. I'd say it is time to go 'back to basics' but I don't think we are capable. We'll be missing players so it will be another case of shuffling the pack and coming up with some other weird selection to accommodate it. Two tough away days coming up. Can we 'do a Bolton' and grind out a win at Birmingham? Rotherham will be a dogfight as they desperately fight for survival and aren't bad at home. Could easily be looking at 6 defeats on the bounce here. Special mention for the referee. The same one who booked Harrison Reed for 'timewasting' on a throw in at Bolton earlier this season managed to avoid sanctioning Middlesbrough., who took an age for every throw. Absolute disgrace.
    2 points
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