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  1. On your last sentence, I agree that we shouldn't automatically assume a top-6 PL team's u23s are better than ours, but it's probably fair to assume someone like Ejaria, with 27 Championship games, 14 SPL games, and 11 Europa League games under his belt, (and Reading fans appear to have liked him) is a step up on, say, Buckley (no offence to Buckley!). (Note I extend my thoughts below to all PL teams, not just the top 6...) Perhaps a distinction is needed between bringing in a loan who already has some pro experience versus someone completely raw. King (20 years old when we brought him in on loan), Cairney (21), Gestede (24, so pushing it age-wise...), and Reed (23) all arguably fall under this category, and were all relatively successful loans, no? (Palmer a noted exception! But that may have been more lack of opportunity, as he was justifiably stuck behind Dack, than lack of ability). Your other examples were very raw (and perhaps then cheaper...) Now, you obviously then need to debate on the merits of Ejaria's better ability to contribute this year versus someone like Buckley (keeping him as the counterfactual), the potential damage this could have on Buckley's development (assuming he is ready for Championship game time), the potential cost savings of bringing someone like Ejaria on loan (who we can quickly dump if he doesn't work out) versus spending a transfer fee and committing to a longer contract for another player (who may or may not work out), and the potential benefit of gaining an 'in' on him if he has a successful year with us and is keen to sign a permanent deal knowing he won't be getting in a PL team's lineup anytime soon, like Cairney or Gestede (or we deal with the disappointment of him subsequently being priced out of our budget, being recalled midseason, or subsequently earning PL game time, as was the case with Gallagher (21), Keane (21), and Lawrence (21), who did contribute while they were here, and may now be the case with Reed.) Is it just me or has this debate about signing young PL players on loan been perpetually going around in circles? The costs, risks, and potential benefits are all relatively clear... it's just a matter of ones own preference on squad building, cost management, etc. It's not an idea that should be immediately dismissed (nor should it be assumed to be a guaranteed way of getting a solid starting player for a year, but only as part of a mixed transfer strategy)
    12 points
  2. I only want a proven commanding centre half and I don't care if the entire transfer budget goes on one player.
    8 points
  3. He was decent at set pieces. Quite a good player in my eyes.
    5 points
  4. Replace one ginger ninja with another, don’t think Colback would be a terrible addition but we need two new defenders before anything else. The thought of Bell at left back and Williams/Mulgrew at centre half in the starting line up this season makes me want too projectile vomit.
    4 points
  5. Appointing Coyle was the last straw for me. I cashed in my Rovers chips that day. I had nothing more to do with the club, this site etc until they fired him. For the first time in 60 years I'd had enough. I must admit I felt a lot better for it, between them they were doing my head in.
    4 points
  6. 4 points
  7. Close the thread and get this man a biscuit. very good post
    3 points
  8. I am old enough to remember signing John McNamee. A rubbish defence stabilised and grew around him. All the Rovers defenders except Mulgrew are young or youngish so I am not writing any of them off unlike the rest of you. Stick a rock of a central defender in with them and I would bet on them and the rest of the team transforming.
    3 points
  9. Some fragile masculinity on show here! Yeah, the women's game is not like watching Man City's men's team in full flight, but half the teams are amateurs and completely neglected by their county's FA. It's only turned full time professional in this country fairly recently, so it'll take time for it to match the men's competition in terms of skill. The games I've seen have been much more watchable than a lot of Premier league bore fests.
    3 points
  10. It's pointless Mowbray signing loan players as he usually sticks them out of position playing on the wing. When he came in we had Gallagher who he played out wide. Since then he has signed Armstrong on loan and played him wide, Payne played wide, Antonsson played wide, Palmer played wide and Reed played wide. None of those players best position was out on the wing.
    3 points
  11. We can buy all those players if we want to. That's 7 new arrivals and we've already let 3 go from last season and should be looking to offload another two or three like Smallwood. We got Dack for less than a million whilst spending 7 million on Brereton so good business can be done. The trouble is we don't seem to have any serious desire to improve on those already here. All the talk at the moment appears to be around padding out the squad, filling gaps rather than getting rid of some and getting better ones in.
    3 points
  12. Our defensive issues will still be far from solved by signing just one centre back.
    3 points
  13. When I was a kid we used to play mixed sex until 11. The lads would go off and play on full sized pitches and the girls would either join Wigan athletic ladies if they where good enough or quit. we used to play a pre season friendly against the Wigan ladies team and there wasn’t much in it. i assume the women break away at that age due to the physicality aspect as young lads get older. it got me thinking. Michael Owen against Chris samba is at a size and strength disadvantage as is Defoe and anyone trying to mark akinfenwa. They combat that with speed, skill etc. so my question is should women not be aloud to play against men due to physicality and how good would a woman have to be for her to be even considered to play in a mans team. if there was a women as good as messi, would people be for or against her playing in a mans league and how long is it going to be before this becomes a real possibility/ talking point. Not to long ago the talk of female commentators, pundits, linesman and referees would have seemed ludicrous . Now the vast majority wouldn’t even notice, especially as the younger generation haven’t known any other way (which is a good thing imo) . Emma Hayes recently got mentioned for an interview for the Chelsea job and the way the world is changing I was just curious as to what’s people thought. If a woman can hold her own against men, should or shouldn’t she be aloud to play in the men’s game ?
    3 points
  14. I'm a little uncomfortable with the concept that we are pursuing players as 'back up' to 'maybe earn a spot'. As far as I'm concerned whether you are Man City or Accy Stanley every player you bring in should be with a view to that player being good enough to play in the team regularly. Clearly Man City can afford to stockpile a collection of players who will sit around doing nothing whereas lower clubs won't be able to take such risks but the principle should be the same - any player the club pursues should be seen as good enough and as a first teamer. Only when he's in the building and training does a decision then get made on who starts games. It's a similar thing with this bizarre Brereton deal. We're supposed to believe that he was a 'project' signing and that we paid out millions of pounds on a player that was never expected to seriously contribute last season and was some sort of pet project for Mowbray or others to polish up and then presumably prove a point down the line by him being worth more than we paid. It's all just nonsense and is unheard of at other Championship clubs. You sign players who are good enough and ready to play. Enough of this back-up, squad filler, making up the numbers or development project stuff. Just sign some players who are ready to play who are better than those already here! If Mowbray was unconvinced about Bauer's capabilities and never saw him as a starting CB then he's wasted a lot of time and energy talking about him and pursuing him. It will also be shown to wrong if Bauer now plays every week for North End and is a central cog in a stronger defence than ours. I wasn't against the Downing signing given he was a regular at Boro recently but already we're seeing it - he hasn't gone to Austria with the squad so next news is he won't be ready for friendlies as he won't have had the intensive training, then next news is he'll be playing catch up fitness wise and he'll be struggling to break into the team from that point on. Seen it before.
    3 points
  15. You lot seem to like talking about it to say you’re not interested and don’t like it... I enjoy watching football, not just watching men play football. I think it would be a fantastic achievement, and I’m getting quietly confident... Need to keep concentration in a shaky defence but going forwards we’ve been electric at times. Should be a cracker of a semi whoever it’s against. 5-4 England or something daft.
    3 points
  16. Heaven forbid if England Women win their version of the World Cup. We are going to have “it’s the same as 1966” rammed down our throats for at least a week and a half until everyone forgets about women’s football again. The irony is that the England women’s team is benefiting from the vacuum caused by football no longer being shown on terrestrial TV.
    3 points
  17. This weekend heard on the radio Jill Scott is England’s most capped player. Fair enough. But the sentence finished with beating peter Shiltons record. I nearly exploded. As if stats are gender neutral. Still winding me up thinking about it. Then once I’d composed myself someone called Marta became Brazil's top goalscorer in world cups, ahead of Ronaldo and Pele. And could go past klose for all time record. It’s just not same. Take it for what it is non league amateur football but not being sexist or a misogynist...just objectively it’s shite.
    3 points
  18. Keane has fantastic on pitch leadership qualities. For those 90 minutes he led by example. Totally different skill set to manage a team and staff daily and though I’ve obviously not seen him behind closed doors, he doesn’t seem to be cut out for that in the slightest.
    2 points
  19. The first bit doesn’t really make sense regarding my point about emotional intelligence and the second part kind of illustrates what I mean. For example, how Roy Keane deals with injuries - https://talksport.com/football/421006/roy-keane-transcript-row/ He’s a dick.
    2 points
  20. Management wise, Keane and O’Neill are yesterday’s men.
    2 points
  21. O'NEILL is a busted flush and has been for years,find him an odd character tbh!
    2 points
  22. You would be making the wrong choice. Believe me
    2 points
  23. You have no idea about O'Neill now I don't think. He may have a better CV than Mowbray, but Mowbray has moved more with the times, in regards to how he deals with players ,the media and also tactically. 100% give me Mowbray any day of the week So, when I am being accused of "Irish bias" in future , please note the above.
    2 points
  24. 2 points
  25. I can confirm that we have received the next batch from Harry & once the weather takes a turn for the worst we’ll get some more entries on here... ? @OnePhilT needs to train me as well mind, so structure your expectations accordingly...?
    2 points
  26. Not many flourish in this day and age at most clubs when out on loan. These kids are on top dollar and not playing for contracts at these Premier League clubs that I think the drive and ambition to succeed for a lower club is instantly missing and below them. Again not too many success stories in the Championship ..not just at Rovers. I d rather go lower league and take a chance on them and let them earn a contract.
    2 points
  27. Why though? We might as well persevere with Davenport who is our player? If that happens then it's got Kasey Palmer written all over it again.
    2 points
  28. What you want from your goalkeeper is predictability. You need to know what he's going to do in any given situation. I don't really care about the shots that fly into the top corner just as long as your keeper isn't dropping corners on the opposing centre forward's foot.
    2 points
  29. I suppose you've blanked Murphy, Etuhu and Goulon from your mind? Don't blame you. Many would say Andrews but I think he was a similar level to Evans and Smallwood personally, just playing a league higher. He was poor but not half as poor as a lot of fans made out.
    2 points
  30. Utter feminist liberalist media claptrap. Should we include Wayne Rooney’s Under 15s and U17s goals as part of his overall record? Shilton played 13 times for England C team, taking his total to 138 games. I expect he will have some schoolboy caps too. They need to promote the women’s game, not promote it as “the game”, and stop trying to socially engineer us.
    2 points
  31. Just wondering why that handball wasn't a penalty (for France) bearing in mind what has been given in the competition so far??
    1 point
  32. They were not playing him because they failed to ensure a clause was put in to protect themselves financially. They then tried to scapegoat him to get him out the club and forfeit a contract he would have been an idiot to rip up. Nothing to do with blue and white blinkers.
    1 point
  33. Sunniest day ever at anfield but I appreciate the effort ?
    1 point
  34. O'Neill is past it, and Keane is mental. Just about every manager has a shelf life just like a player, and Martin is past his, as his tactics and approach to dealing with players has not evolved.
    1 point
  35. Shiiit I wanted it to be real ?
    1 point
  36. MacNamee transformed our team more than Shearer did imo. There should be a statue of the man at Ewood, preferably of him stamping on that forward when the ball was half a pitch away, or when he scored that screamer from the centre circle against high-riding Brighton.
    1 point
  37. I’d prefer o neill personally
    1 point
  38. O'Neill after being sacked at forest after 5 months. Lost the players apparently. Ahem, I called that here. I said he wouldn't start next season as manager. Absolute dinosaur tactically but his attitude is the absolute deal breaker for me. He gave players and reporters plenty of attitude when Ireland manager. I'm so unsurprised he has been sacked.
    1 point
  39. https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=185967&hilit=ejaria&start=20 Reading seem keen to have him back. Mention he's not good enough to displace Dack - really??? - but a poster quite liked him out wide. Looks like he impressed there last year.
    1 point
  40. If that's their plan they may want to have a rethink as we don't exactly have form for allowing young loan players to flourish. Hendrie, Byrne and Samuelsen barely got a look in during our relegation season. Harper and Payne didn't do a whole lot during our L1 campaign and Palmer was wasted last season and left after six months to go elsewhere.
    1 point
  41. Bell or Williams are far from good enough at LB, our CM isn’t good enough and we cannot be reliant on Graham. That’s not to mention that we regularly play strikers out wide. A commanding CB has to be number one priority but Mowbray can’t do a ‘Brereton’ this time round with the budget.
    1 point
  42. We should have been all over the Vaulks signing
    1 point
  43. Yes, the standard has definitely got better and it's good to watch - which wasn't the case a few years ago. Lucky Phil Neville - he gets to hug all the players after the matches, including the opposition.
    1 point
  44. That's because he's been in the job a long time and by now he's cottoned on at Rovers if you tell fans what you think they want to hear they jump through hoops. If you don't carry in through whether you meant to or not it's fine because the general feeling will be blame the owners. They are thousands of miles away and won't hear it and don't give a toss anyway so you are able to just plod on.
    1 point
  45. I'd have him first choice over any of the current lot!
    1 point
  46. Seemed to have changed his tune since Feb... https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17452974.tony-mowbray-knows-his-next-challenge-as-rovers-boss/
    1 point
  47. Calm down guys. It's England in the World Cup, which is a whole lot better than watching that African nations kick fest crap or that Messi joke testimonial tournament with Qatar and Japan. England simply have to change their penalty taker though. Everyone knew where that was going - even the keeper stood slightly to her left to give her that gap. She's fluffed 3 in the tournament now (albeit one went in).
    1 point
  48. Scott Joplin - The Entertainer Accept or reject, maybe not a perfect match.
    1 point
  49. I hope he's looking a properties in Italy while away on holiday. I have absolutely no time for him and I hope he does not return to our club. A couple of decent displays last season are outweighed by the amount of shocking defensive displays the team put in while he was at centre back. For such an injury prone player you think he would be more focused on getting himself fit in pre season, rather than tarting himself around to the highest bidder?
    1 point
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