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    I used to live across the road from Kevin - although not for too long, I moved in just after we'd been relegated and he'd bought the house after his move to Rovers, so then his mum and brother lived there after he left us to go back down to Southampton. I remember the local pub landlord telling me once that Kevin had gone completely off the rails during that first season with us - basically the move to us had made him a millionaire overnight and, at 21, it had just messed with his head and thrown him off kilter. I also think that the fact things hadn't gone well at Rovers must have shattered his confidence - I remember, a couple of days after I had moved in, I was standing at the bus stop and could see him in his garden. He had a set of full size goalposts in his garden he and was standing about 10/12 yards back from them and was flicking the ball up and then volleying it at the goal. In the time I was stood watching he did it 7 times, but only 1 of his shots actually went in! I remember thinking that I would have backed myself to have had a better conversion rate. Another player that comes to mind is Lee Makel - I remember seeing him play in a cup game back in about 94 or 95 (certainly when Kenny was still in charge), and he just ran the game. Both myself and my dad went away that day convinced that he was going to be the next big thing - but then he just disappeared and never really went on to do much as far as I know.
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    Terry Bush - Maybe Tomorrow (Theme to 'The Littlest Hobo' for those old enough to remember it)
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    You have been banging on about this for weeks (or is it months) ?but what I read is that the consensus is vaccine ready in 12 to 18 months would be a massive achievement and no chance this year.
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    What didn't go wrong? For starters breaking up GAS - Gally and Sutton was a bad start. It only lasted a few games with Davis instead of Gally, before the swap came back in, but it set the tone for a hard season. A ton of injuries, especially to these two, also massively didn't help. I think losing Flitty for most of the campaign was a huge blow. If the season before petered out because the squad was too thin, the opposite was in effect this season. We had far too many players, which resulted in little consistency whatsoever. For example we had 6 strikers on the books, which back then was huge. I think manure only had 4 recognised strikers for example back then. We had a squad of 30+ which, even with a huge injury list, didn't really allow for much continuity or for us to have a proper style. Take the striker situation - Gally and Jansen play very differently to Sutton, who plays differently to Ward and Blake, who was different to Davis. Between the volume of personnel, and the injuries it was very hard to get a style of play, to have a plan A or B, or any kind of continuity or other marginal gains that comes from a settled squad. It also started badly as Hodgeson's two big signings didn't work out Perez and Davis. One didn't settle, the other wasn't mature enough to deal with the big price tag, and apply himself properly. I also wonder with Perez whether he was a bit too different from the traditional wingers of Ripley, Wilcox and Duff which gave us the success of before. There was a notable drop in quality at the back. Peacock and Dally weren't Hendry's quality, or necessary quality whatsoever. Another clanger was that Dailly, brought as a centre back spent the first half of the season rotating between different full back positions, which can't have helped him or the team. Sure, Kidd was hopeless, but Hodgeson gave him a heck of a bad start, with a ton of failed signings and breaking what was fixed rather than building upon it. The last minute signings of his reign, Blake, Marcolin and Konde, added nothing but expense. All in all, it was a poor situation to hand over. I can't remember at what point Sherwood left in the season but between his leaving and Flitty's injury, there was a huge loss of leadership. Throw in no Hendry in their too and that's a lot of leaders and maturity to lose from a squad. Kidd did pretty badly too. Whilst he had an eye for a player - most of his signings were solid - I do think it was too many, and tactically and his man management was pretty inept. The number of games we lost or didn't win was poor, and even now I can recall there seemed to be an it's ok we can fix it next week sort of atmosphere about the place. Certainly I recall that being the vibe of the interviews on Radio Rovers (which I miss, even if they do make certain posters on here seem unbiased) from that season. As for tactics they also seemed way off. That fateful Forest game I remember us whacking it long to Jansen and Gally, and wondering who on earth thought that was a good idea. If the long balls to Rhodes vs Millwall was a stupid idea in the FA Cup, this was its predecessor. Clueless. The more I think on it the more I do wonder about the injury situation. Really Flitty, Gally, McKinlay, Sutton and Flowers all missing for huge chunks. (Although with Flowers we got an upgrade in the performances of his lifetime from Filan, but still.) I find it hard to imagine that so many key players were out for so long. Did having another 25+ players to compete with or the club culture make a difference to how quickly we got them back? Was there thoughts, it's ok, we'll just buy our way out of trouble rather than improve what we had? Speaking of culture that seemed to be very different too. The 97-98 Rovers team were the original in your face Mark Hughes type Rovers. The defence, midfield and strike force was all up for a good battle. We weren't thugs on the pitch but the team could mix it. I remember in beating Arsenal away in 97-98 Gally was badly fouled and half the Rovers team came steaming into the confrontation. That up for the fight and togetherness just wasn't there the following year. Perhaps changes to personnel or change in management and culture,(or probably both) but that gritty togetherness and up for a scrap attitude was badly missing. Realistically there is no way we should have gone down. We had a ton of money, a good core team, a bunch of promising youngsters coming through - the best bunch in mu lifetime. We even managed to buy some good players too, well under Kidd anyway. So it seems like, even with unlucky injuries it should not have gone wrong. That suggests to me terrible man management, tactics and culture. Even looking back now it's hard to see it all as one full season such was the turnover in players. The season before was one of my favourites, and yet it seemed a lifetime ago at the end of the 99 relegation. It seems a huge transition from the hardy and spirited team of 97-98 into the promotion team of Souness only a couple of seasons later, which suggests far too much change was going on for Rovers good. Just a few thoughts from the perspective of a (then) 16 year old lad as to what went wrong.
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    If I were a parent I'd want my child back in school for all the obvious reasons. But I would want to know that they and the teachers were safe, and that the risks were being assessed and managed properly - and I would want to go and see for myself how they were managing it. I would certain not send my child back to school because the government ordered them to go back and because they deemed each and every school is safe to do so. Williamson and Rudd can take a running jump until they can prove every school is safe.
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    David Bowie- Suffragette City
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    If Sturgeon was paying for it they'd be all back at work by now....
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    Good riddance too. If it was possible I am no doubt certain Momentum would be wrapped up and thrown out of the party too. It may have had the best interests of heart in its inception but it was infiltrated by some very nasty people. Factions in politics like the ERG and Momentum is what is driving the polarisation of political views in this country. It is a mindset of: "you are either one of us or an enemy" and when that mindset firms itself in somebody it can lead to more extreme views. Certainly in the case of the ERG it caused a "do or die" mentality to Brexit and in the process of them 'doing' they have harmed a lot of people. The mindset of partisan politics is cemented in the UK now. I, like many on here it seems, am a 'swing voter' and decide during the election campaign which direction I am going to vote. Certain political activists have called me unprincipled for that and I have been told on more than one occasion to pick a side. This red vs blue is all too American for me.
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    Exactly. The timing and nature of the announcement was badly handled and vague but on the flip side theres people out there who want every detail right down to which direction they should wipe there arse. On the wider point, I think some sort of age segregation is wise but not sure how it would be implemented. I think I saw a stat that number of under 45s who have died is in the low 100s? I've always said I'm happy to be exposed to the virus as a young healthy person I'd fancy my chances. My concern has always been about passing it on to my parents / grandparents. We can surely find a way to get people of a certain age up and about whilst protecting the vulnerable?
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/17/scientists-divided-over-coronavirus-risk-to-children-if-schools-reopen There is a good quote there from a Labour frontbencher, who is stating there is no easy answer to the opening of schools. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" decision. So whilst at least the Labour politicians are sympathetic to the horrendous decisions having to be made the activist-branch of the party has gone into overdrive trying to discredit, and put blood on the hands of the decision makers. The current disagreement between scientific studies further highlights the lack of understanding of Covid-19 and why, on the face of it, some decisions are made which you may think isn't in the better interests of yourself. The media has a lot to blame for this. It whips up a frenzy every day because each time a new hashtag goes viral they make more £££. At the end of the day your child is your priority. If you want to keep them off school then do so. However, if there are teachers willing to work, and children willing to learn, then with all the best endeavour we should seek a return to normality, as is happening across the world right now. This isn't an overnight "everyone return" but a structured return to education, which as we all know is vitally important for both the social welfare and mental welfare of children. Eventually this decision had to come and it was always going to see a frenzy- this country is now built on it.
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    Just to reiterate, I think we agreed to stop mentioning Cheltenham, as it really has been done to death on here. In case you had forgotten.
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    Nice bit of deflection and confirmation bias from The Mail. Shocker.
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    What is this complete dog shit framed in the government colour scheme ??????
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    2m from it at all times. It’s going to be a weird window.
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    Under 45s account for like 1% of the death toll. I'm a long way below that. I'm fit and active and have no underlying health conditions which probably affected a lot of the 1% who died. All this lockdown is not for my benefit in the slightest.
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    I went to quite a few games that stood out during this rapid downward trajectory. Firstly the 2nd half of the 97/98 as we were tumbling down the table, I remember the 3-0 home defeat to a dreadful (Christian Gross) Spurs. I’d travelled up with my Spurs mate who phoned 606 on the way home to explain how shocked we were. I went with the same mate to the Wimbledon (Selhurst Park) match in Sep/Oct? We’d just signed Blake for £4m (I am sure he was a panic buy as we’d missed out on someone else) and he gave it all, but was woeful. We drew 1-1. Absolutely tipped it down, my mate was drenched and had to meet his new girlfriends parents for the first time in some swanky holiday - they were appalled. Finally the fateful Southampton 3-3 game with a few matches to go. Not only had we thrown away a 3-1 lead but were clinging on to the point in the end. Walking back after the match, it was the first time I (and seemingly many others around me) realised relegation was not just possible, but a very real threat. Thank God we still had Forest to play. I agree with many of the comments already made. We spent heavily, but mostly dross (panic buys), we had too many players, no leaders and no-one seemed to have twigged that Ashley Ward relegated everyone he played for. But for Filan it could have been much, much worse.
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    This is something that is happening at my work place right now. There are currently 6 freelance QS's and three full time. Of the 6 freelance only I am in my 20s, the remainder are 55+. All of the full time employees are 35 and under. Our boss has taken the decision to unfurlough us as of Monday whilst the 5 freelance blokes all remain on furlough. The idea is that we can be the surveyors to do site visits, meetings, office work and then report back to the more senior freelance guys via Microsoft Teams to relay any info we need. That is when they are back. Essentially we will be allowing our company to work to full capacity but also shielding our more vulnerable (but most experienced and knowledgable!!!) staff from the potential of infection. As we all said via a conference call it is no good for us to be sat here until October. We are going out of our minds and indeed I have even started doing some work for free simply to fill my time. We need to pull our weight in order to get construction in Shropshire / West Mids back operational whilst also seeing that the experience isn't lost in the process. Quite frankly I don't see any other way to go other than the younger, less vulnerable having to go back to work and operate to the best of our abilities. Certainly I am happy to pull my weight but whether that attitude transcends the nation I don't know. What I will say is that some of my friends who are labourers, groundworkers, tradesmen and who have been back at work roughly a week now are all beginning to say the same thing: "if I am fit enough to work, why am I not fit enough to socialise?". This narrow-minded thinking is perhaps what is driving the current media furore about 'back to work'. I do believe that a portion of people expected this to be all but over in a few weeks and all aspects of life returned to normality. When it hasn't happened the way they thought it would it has come as a shock. Finally it should be noted that everybody has a different situation. The Govt cannot make a decision that keeps all 60+ million people happy. It is inevitable there will be problems. It was unexpected to hear the announcement at 7pm on a Sunday, and even more unexpected that other authorities hadn't been notified, but now we have had over a week to digest and come up with 'outside of the box' thinking to get our individual companies back to work in a way that keeps the businesses operating and its stakeholders safe.
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    Well that's another clanger of a comment. Near normal? Let's think about this: There won't be a vaccine by July so that means anyone who is shielding is still vulnerable. Oh, and people will still catch it. Schools are crapping themselves over a couple of year groups returning in June (rightly so imo) yet would they be ready for all years in July. The R rate is creeping up again. Potential and predicted second wave trying to be avoided. Social distancing still in place. As we've seen from sports hanging out in close proximity, especially indoors, is a really bad idea. There's at least no watching of sport in arenas in July and I can't see much else differing from this. The care homes crisis to be fixed in under 2 months. And that's just off the top of my head. It's another false comment to make himself look good which they will conveniently forget. A bit like we will beat the virus in 3 months or whatever nonsense he came out with back at the start. But it will show people he is a good egg with good intentions. Doesn't matter whether he goes through with said unrealistic promises - his followers won't mind at all.
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    I’m pretty sure the UK Government’s murdering of God knows how many old and frail people, was not the right way forward though...
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    2015 was the re-run of the referendum, as I believe there was one in the 1970s. I guess 'democracy' only counts when the result goes your way in these things. A no deal Brexit in December after all this economic disruption would be utterly cretinous, lead to an even worse situation and yet another severe recession. Only a person with a vested interest in it all going to crap like Jacob Rees Mogg or a deluded fool taken in by Farage and co. could think things would get better. I accept the result, but from the moment it came in, it has been handled so badly by May, Johnson, the Tory party factions and so on any hope of it going well has gone. Leaving the EU has become an almost religious article of faith to you and many others. It is like the ideas of Marx to Lenin, the British empire to Churchill, or Aryan supremacy to Hitler. There is no sign of pragmatism, no plans in motion for what happens next, just more of the same nonsense about people being bad losers and traitors to the country.
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    Maybe not completely off the mark...
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    That makes sense (I think!) for the general public but not for a group who are effectively in a bubble and need protecting as a whole not from each other. I fear that pragmatism is dead, and COVID-19 couldn’t have hit a worse generation. We are going to have to learn to live with this for some time and everyone seems to be on a risk-free mission. They are in for disappointment.
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    Im not saying that at that time England werent mis managed but the reason that Lampard and Gerrard were always in the team is because like Scholes they were all world class midfielders, as good as Dunn was he wasnt as good as them 3. Indeed out of the 3 I felt that Scholes was just about the best and should have played central but you can understand the desire to get them all in. Indeed Scholes retired not because he was played left where he said he did play on occasion for United but because he felt he underperformed. Heskey certainly lingered a little too long but he was a perfect foil for Owen.
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    I actually liked Gillespie. A proper old school winger. On his day (unfortunately not consistently enough), he was one of the most exciting players in the country for me. Out and out pace and ability to beat his man. I just think off the field issues stopped him being a real star.
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    To be fair, it's not the Middle Ages anymore. I don't think anyone should be obligated to honour those titles, especially when knighthoods like Savile's make a mockery of the whole system.

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