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  1. Abysmal. We're an absolute shambles. A squad with more deadwood than actual potential, a manager who is inept beyond comprehension, an astounding ability to play football without any effective tactics, an executive level who either haven't got a clue all this is happening or are the reason it is happening, and all the while an air around the club as if life doesn't get any better than this. It's so frustrating. You know straight off the bat three things will happen in our games at present - 1) we'll have a wealth of chances we don't convert, 2) we'll concede some piss weak opener, and 3) we'll have no response, and if anything will actually implode. Quite how Samuel missed so many chances so glaringly I don't know. Quite how we have so many strikers at our disposal, yet only two of them are ever been prolific (even one of them - DG - is on the turn now), I don't know. Quite how we go from playing absolute blinders one week, to looking as if we have never met the next, I don't know. The sad fact of the matter is that the only reason everyone else and I get so frustrated is because we care, to whatever degree. You look at their social media profiles and everything's rosy, having a laugh and messing about. You look at Mowbray churning out excuse after excuse. You look at those high up obliterating everything that made me fall in love with this club. None of them give one. Players will move away to elsewhere, the exec likewise, Mowbray will get a nice amount in his coffers for a rainy day and Venky's won't even clock how much they've spent. It is the hope that kills you. After Bristol City I thought maybe, just maybe, we might get somewhere. We've been in this position so many times and have always made a hash of it, but Brereton looked like a new man, Travis, Nyambe, Arma etc showed they were still in fine form, JRC was encouraging and we sauntered to a very comfortable win when in all honesty anything could have happened. Even coming into today, a win would still have had us in the mix. Instead we got had by the side bottom of the league, let a bloke about a foot shorter than anyone around him score a header, tried to remedy this by removing our only actual goalscorer, and, like Wigan, got done again because we have no answer in the slightest.
    25 points
  2. If we needed a new manager then yes, McCarthy and Hughton would be at the top of my list. As would Neil Warnock. I think all 3 are 'achievable' managers for us and all 3 with some reasonable support and backing would have us in or around the promotion picture. I anticipate all 3 will be in work in the Championship by this time next year and will be proving themselves as skilled operators. As i said earlier, i think our best chance of promotion out of this league isnt via Mowbray's fairytale ambitions of us emulating Bielsa's Leeds or Bilic's West Brom or unique club Brentford. It is going to be through emulating Warnock's Cardiff, Bruce's Hull, Hughton's Brighton or Dyche's Burnley. No frills, no ideals of nice possession football or outplaying the opposition and talking about how many chances we had. It will be through being defensively tight, really tough to beat, nasty, streetwise and being built upon having a settled XI who know themselves inside out, back to front and only changing things when we need to. Sadly I don't think Mowbray is the man to every deliver that, because he isn't capable of organising a defence along those lines, confuses himself with what he is trying to deliver and has these fanciful principles of football purity. It worked for him 12 years ago at West Brom because they were the best squad in the division. It won't work here, in my opinion, if we want promotion. But ultimately it depends on which way we want to go as a club. The above would be ideal if we wish to stick with a 'traditional' approach of allowing the manager to run the show including recruitment and essentially manage the club on the owners behalf as Mowbray has done. Many managers of the older school variety would relish such conditions, the freedom to run things as they wanted, dictate recruitment and not have to accommodate interfering directors. I've no problem if the club does want to go down the head coach route but I'll take some persuading that throwing experienceless Damien Johnson into the madhouse of the Championship tasked with delivering results under a 'head coach' structure will work in any sense of the word. Rather than following some grand plan of succession a la Brentford it will simply be the easy, cheap and popular in-house route that the likes of Waggott and Venkys would relish to avoid having to conduct a proper search and pay accordingly. The talk of copying Brentford is nonsense because as a club were are simply a million miles away from being able to implement such a structure. What Brentford have now has been almost a decade in the planning, a result of their owner having a well thought out plan of how to grow them whilst balancing the books and overcoming their small size, crowds and pulling power. To that end they have assembled a very well structured backroom staff and are the envy of the division. If it was as simple as jealous clubs wanting to copy them then everyone would have found out how to by now. We are just about as far away from that as any club can be. Rather than have a thought out strategy from the owners down and employ staff to deliver it, we have no idea at all from the owners, a manager who likes to tell people that we are copying Brentford but is ill equipped to deliver it. As Brentford showed with the ruthless sacking of Warburton after they got into the play-offs, if the manager doesn't fit the plan you get rid. Imagine if that had been here, You credit the scouting network under Mark Hughes as being good and having regressed since then. I would agree although i think we also brought in some good bargains under Allardyce using his contacts which did well for the club. The trouble is that i believe the excellent recruitment under Hughes and Allardyce were due to those managers, their contacts and skills in the market in conjunction with their team of coaches and scouts, rather than a result of Rovers and their structure. The only credit anyone above the managers gets is that they appointed those managers and backed them when they asked for the players. Brentford is completely different as the 'club' takes centre stage in identifying and recruiting talent, and that process continues uninterrupted whilst the head coach does his job on the pitch. Head coach moves on or gets fired - find a successor yet the plan and recruitment continues without disruption. I appreciate Mowbray's efforts at rebuilding scouting from the shell it was a few years ago. But I stop short of believing he has installed some super duper Brentford-rivalling network that is going to benefit the club with brilliant signings for years to come. My view is that he has assembled a scouting department, which is an improvement on what the owners had left us with before he arrived, but i don't think we are remotely near to most other clubs at this level and won't be any time soon. I also think when Mowbray goes there will be no plan for succession and the next bloke may well have a different view entirely and have to spend years changing things again. The 'European scouting' system Mowbray has talked about since his arrival and is now more than 2 years in the pipeline still hasn't delivered a single hidden gem signing to suggest it is working. The only 'European' signing we've made was Holtby although he was well known around the country already. There's more to it than that. It shouldn't take 2 years to deliver. I don't criticise Mowbray in that respect, nor do i want to give the impression I don't like the bloke. He has done well all things considered and if we go close but fall short this season i think it probably represents a decent season. But I've little faith in things going to the next level, more to do with the lunatics upstairs than anything else.
    16 points
  3. Since promotion from L1 Mowbray has been dog turd. Muddled with no plan and absolutely shocking in the transfer market. The club is desperate for him to leave. Dunno whats worse the 12m clueless strikers or selling a home grown talented GK on the cheap without a replacement in mind. We need to kick up a fuss somehow
    10 points
  4. Been having a bit of a break on here... had some tough times over the last few months, but I feel the need for a bit of a vent after that shambles. Big difference today was the managers for me. We were having the best of it so Struber made pretty drastic personnel and tactical changes. Immediately pockets of space opened up for them all over the pitch and they promptly scored. We stuck with the same over complicated and ineffectual system and looked completely overwhelmed and shell shocked. Not for the first time, our changes were reactive and came too late. There was a hint of desperation about them. Samuel was poor And should have scored, but at least he got into positions and created opportunities unlike Gallagher and Brereton (who we just need to write off as a very costly mistake). Really concerning when a 34 year old player who has been practically released, completely frozen out and not played for us in nearly a year looks far less out of place than at least 6 or 7 others who turned out for us tonight.
    9 points
  5. People complaining about a player missing 1 football match to be at the birth of a child need to get out of the 1980's and into the 21st century,times have changed.For me i'd think less of Lenihan if he put a game of football a bigger priority before being with his family at an important time in their life.
    9 points
  6. Watch that and weep. Imagine Warnock in our dressing room after trash like that tonight when 3 points off the playoffs. Those players wouldn't do it again, that's for sure. Instead we've got merry go round Mowbray. Does anyone believe he gave the team a bollocking after the game? Anyone think he's distraught/devastated after once again wasting a glorious chance to move into the top 6? I dont. It will be 'hard luck lads' or oh well always next week/month/year. Plenty of time, nice lads etc. He's not a winner.
    8 points
  7. Been saying it for the last 18 months so might as well reiterate it once more, we'll never get anywhere with Mowbray in charge. That will never change even allowing for the occasional glimmer of hope created by the odd good result which even I was gullible enough to temporarily fall for after the Bristol City game.
    8 points
  8. Problem is that, rather than it being a stick to beat him with, the 12 million wasted on 2 appalling 'strikers' has actually made his position stronger as they've took us to FFP limits. Meaning the job is a fire fighting one with no funds for any prospective candidates, therefore no credible alternatives, better the devil you know etc and down and down we go. And the fucker has his own flag....
    8 points
  9. Absolutely embarassing capitulation. No doubt Mowbray will blame a perhaps harsh red card rather than look at why we was already 1 down and absolutely pitiful. Season over. In a team full of shit performances Samuel stood out. Absolutely pathetic. And some think hes worth a new deal?! Rothwell, totally ineffective, as he always is. Holtby and Armstrong our only sort of threats. What was that quadruple sub about, taking them 2 off? Gallagher pointless. Graham past it. Davenport full of petulance even though he did seem at least arsed. Brereton not a red but absolutely idiotic to do what he did. Johnson a lumbering oaf, no doubt on a big wage. Downing seems to have aged a couple of years during lockdown. Our bizarre makeshift defence eventually crumbled and ill be glad when that clown in net is sent back. How we sort out a horribly imbalanced squad full of immovable shite on good contracts, beats me.
    8 points
  10. Roll up! Roll up! Buy your season ticket at rovers. Come and witness the amazing Bennett a master of all positions. More ponytails, alice bands and beards than goals. The ring master Tonebola and his eenie meenie miney mo approach to team selection and tactics.
    8 points
  11. Our club is run by w**kers. Venkys, Waggott, Cheston and Sylvester who put up with Mowbray as he is with them. All need removing then we can have our club back
    8 points
  12. I really can't understand this Lenihan chat. I wonder if it's a generational thing? No work commitment would ever stop me being at the birth of my child. To slag Lenihan off over this is utter nonsense.
    8 points
  13. I’ve never had children and at my age, I probably won’t end up doing either. But, I can fully understand anyone missing work to be at the birth of their first child. Even if that work was being a key player for the football team I support. Lenihan isn’t the first player to do so and certainly won’t be the last. I wouldn’t blame any of those players for it. It seems a bit of a bizarre thing to criticise anyone for to me, but to each their own....
    8 points
  14. I’m so angry about tonight. Textbook Rovers, we just get stage fright when we get near to the prize. I appreciate we aren’t entitled to win every game, but to lose to Wigan and now to be outplayed by the team at the bottom of the league is completely unacceptable. The saddest thing is, nothing will change.
    7 points
  15. At least we can stop the whole "they're crap because of the fan's negativity in the ground" talk now
    7 points
  16. That finish from Samuel summed him up. Makes Jason Roberts look like Romario in front of goal.
    7 points
  17. We aren't getting to the play offs - let's not kid ourselves. We need to know what a number of alternatives can do. IMO, Walton, Bennett and Gallagher are all cr@p and have forfeited their right to start for Rovers with a series of howlers and abysmal performances. My eleven: Hilton / Nyambe, Lenihan, Tosin, Davenport / Chapman, Travis, Holtby, Downing / Brereton, Armstrong Have Hilton, Davenport, Chapman and Brereton got what it takes? Well let's find out and give them a run of games instead of p!ssing about with the tried and trusted failures.
    7 points
  18. WHAT ?????I cannot believe anyone would give him beyond this season....what for? To waste more money ? To de- skill the young players ? To sign more Johnson like journeymen ? To play square pegs in..... To further empty Ewood ? He needs to be gone.....and gone now ...an embarrassment to himself.....I actually cringe when I hear his interviews
    6 points
  19. I saw it as a kick by Brereton who reacted after he thought he was fouled. Violent conduct and a three game ban. I thought the referee called it right.
    6 points
  20. But he signed 7 of them. Gallagher and Brereton the less said about the better. Rothwell has been fur coat and no knickers since he joined. Samuel as bad as any of them and always has been. Holtby for some reason playing as a focal point in attack. Armstrong our only threat subbed off. And Chapman the most pointless signing ever. Ultimately its his own bad recruitment.
    6 points
  21. He’d have slung his hook for me for spunking £12 million up the wall with signing two absolute dollopers in Gallagher and Brereton alone. There’s simply no plan. He doesn’t know his best team, his tactics are muddled at best, he consistently plays 3-4 players out of position per match, the football is largely p*sh despite what the pundits will tell you. He has to go - it’s simply not good enough.
    6 points
  22. 6 points
  23. To play Bennett after his utterly abysmal showing on Saturday cannot be defended. And I'd have played a youngster rather than Walton - a good, strong manager would've sent out a message tonight - safe to say we haven't got one.
    6 points
  24. Will he make it? I don’t think he will here, but as a centre half he has time on his side to carve out a good career. . It’s not as simple as just listing players ages and Championships appearances. BB has been largely crap in his for us, but has been persevered with because of the price tag, if he was out of our own academy he would have been loaned out to the lower leagues without question. Lewis Travis was a Smallwood sending off away from spending half of last season in League 1. Would he have developed to the player he is now if he had? There’s a big element of luck and sliding doors for young players...
    6 points
  25. Its been touched on before but spewing 12 million on 2 'investment' types and selling your homegrown keeper for a few million to the club who's formula you claim you want to emulate is actually a million miles from it. This is why i find some of the pure waffle insulting it's just backside covering at worst and straw clutching at best. Both Brentford and Sheff Utd put their building blocks in place years ago and have stuck to a formula. In the last few years alone we've changed tack several times and look like doing again. Ok there's a transitional period but from what to what ? Unless you buy quality footballers you won't achieve quality football consistently enough to be at the top. Unless you spend your money on an actual goalscrorer or two you won't get the chances put away in tight games to make that extra bit of difference. You can't be surprised when the types we have miss the chances they do. All this needs building on a reliable regular keeper and a solid pair of regular center halves not changing every season or window. Where actually are we on all this ? Surely that's how you build a successful team over a number of years.
    6 points
  26. 5 points
  27. Think Leeds might be tempted to.
    5 points
  28. Completely agree. At first I though definite yellow but after the replay it showed he definitely reacted and launched in to make the foul, not to play the ball. The intent changed the colour for me. But again, Brereton has just had two games where he started to finally look as though he had something about him - at least in patches and he needs some consistency - next minute he’s benched in favour of rotation to give Samuel a turn. How on earth is the lad going to develop (let alone develop enough to pay back the investment) if, one, he doesn’t get a decent run of games to develop some form and, two, he gets played anywhere but where he could be effective? A petulant foul born out of frustration?
    5 points
  29. I hate to say this but look at Dyche, a team full of really nobodies but gets them organised and play for him, similar to Mark Hughes when he came in to rovers, compare those to Tony and sorry its men against boys, time for him to take stock and tell venkys to look for another manager.
    5 points
  30. The bloke is bomb proof and he will take us down next season.
    5 points
  31. There is 0 reason not to play the youngsters for the rest of the season. Nothing can possibly get more embarassing than this. At least try to find a hidden gem to elevate us next season. Its clear we do not have the means for the clearout that we need.
    5 points
  32. Absolutely pathetic. Fuck off Mowbray and all those useless dickheads.
    5 points
  33. Both were way better than this lot. Neither could trap a bag of cement or had an ounce of composure. But what both of them did have was physicality and they used that to bully defenses, create chances and get in the mix. It meant they got a few goals for us. If Samuel or Gally were as effective as that for us then it would be a huge step up. I would be delighted at that level of performance.
    5 points
  34. I hope Barnsley hammer us. Sick and tired of, IMO, Mowbray's clueless selections. Could you imagine Roy Kean selecting Walton and Bennett !?!? Brereton at long, long last begins to show a wee bit of promise and Mowbray drops him to the bench - just how will that help the lad's confidence. I think we desperately need rid of the dinosaurian Mowbray and, IMO, the equally useless Benson, Venus and Lowe. We are going nowhere.
    5 points
  35. I have a feeling he is going to smash one in tonight to open the floodgates for ten goals in the last seven games for him. This working from home has turned me into an alcoholic.....
    5 points
  36. Look at Tarkowski at Burnley. His early career record isn't exactly glowing but he's going well in the Prem. Centre halves mature later than most other outfield players.
    5 points
  37. Anyone calling for Mowbray to go, please just remember one thing... Any replacement will come from HSH (the reincarnation of SEM). Venkys have always and continue to only appoint managers from their “trusted advisors” HSH represent Mowbray, Coyle and Lambert HSH = Honeyman, Sheron, Horner One former SEM director, 2 former SEM employees. Do a quick google search on Sheron... see who he has worked with and what they got up to. Lessons learned? Bollocks.
    4 points
  38. Maybe time for Tony to walk and for Damien J to take over until end of season.
    4 points
  39. Sick of his after match BS !! He makes no sence and never learns ... can just hear it now We move on to next match crap ... with the same characters in the same positions ....
    4 points
  40. Mowbray has not addressed fundamental problems with the team.. 1. CB issues 2. LB issue 3. Wasted £5m on Gallagher 4. Gk issue. 5. Plays players out of position all the time - why??? I don't get it.. 6. Always plays his favourites even though they're not good enough. 7. We ALWAYS BOTTLE it when we get close this is Tony's mindset! Utterly frustrated with this man. Time to roll the dice Venkys Ps forgot to add the waste of £7m Ben...
    4 points
  41. Season ticket sales are going to be shocking next year, whenever they actually go on sale that is. Season is over and Tony can only blame himself. So much deadwood in the team and it’s come to bite us in the arse. These lads don’t have the bite and hunger to progress like you’d get from Travis and Dack. They look disinterested. Squad needs a huge overhaul in the summer, and as much as I’ve defended Mowbray over time, he hasn’t shown he’s the man to do it. Too pally with them all, too many undeserved contracts. Cardiff, Swansea and Millwall all drawing too, when we’re coming away from Wigan and Barnsley with 0 points and -4 GD you can’t help but give up.
    4 points
  42. I can’t get over how appalling we’ve been. Just rubbish all over the pitch.
    4 points
  43. Push the boat out get Chris Hughton in now set us up for next season.. Mowbray = Mediocrity
    4 points
  44. Actually - good. We've played shit. Mowbray needs to go. I'd lose them all from here until the beginning of next season if it results in his departure.
    4 points
  45. Chaplin 1-0 I’m staying silent on that one
    4 points
  46. we used to call roberts jigsaw,cos he wen`t to pieces in the box
    4 points
  47. Honestly. No. Football is more than life and death, fuck that nonsense I’d have sincere doubts about Lenihan as a person if he’d miss the birth of his child to be down the road in Barnsley, yes some people can’t get to births but I’d like to think any dad would be there if they could
    4 points
  48. Tony & Christian to ruin my Tuesday between them tonight. Tony by playing Bennett, despite having eyes. Christian to continue his form since the restart by getting exponentially shitter each match and throw it into his own net.
    4 points
  49. 1-3 AA with two and one for Holby Walton throws into the net for theirs.
    4 points
  50. How long was O'Connell bumping along at Rochdale ? I've no axe to grind with Wharton , he may or may not be good enough, all I'm saying is he should be given a shot back at the club before we write him off completely. Regarding size, I don't mind a lean centre half, Colin Hendry wasn't massively built. Lean players should be quicker over the ground and they definitely turn quicker. It's what's beating under the badge that counts. Lot's of big guys are softies under the shirt. Give me a small nasty bastard any day. It's a good job nobody told Nobby Stiles he wasn't big enough.
    4 points
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