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  1. Just looking back through this thread and I think I've found the exact moment the wheels came off this season..... Since then - L L W L L D
    13 points
  2. We have the lowest total points at this stage since coming back up, and that was as low a performance as I can remember at home. Our 12 million strikers had absolute stinkers and have done since we signed them. We are closer to going back down again that going up. so can somebody please tell me where the progress and optimism is because I’m just not seeing it. Facts are facts
    11 points
  3. I think the reason for a lot of the anger and resentment on here is the fact that we often make emotional, extreme claims, such as certain players 'should never play again'. Or vice versa. I think if we play particularly poorly, members of this board should be respected for saying this, just as our more optimistic members should be allowed to claim that we will still make the play-offs. It is difficult to accept claims, though, that our performance was anything but disappointing and poor, which TM accepted. He didn't resort to attempts to deflect the disappointment by pointing out the few positives, which was more refreshing than usual post-defeat comments. I pray that he learns from tonight, and sets us up more solidly on Saturday, but I really can't see where the goals will come from. Can anyone? We cannot rely on Armstrong to score a single goal in November, so who will score? The answer to this sums up our current predicament. We have spent literally millions on players who cannot score goals. I only state facts.
    9 points
  4. He’s had many of these runs before .. Venkys are asleep and nobody cares ... sleep walking back to the league position when he first walked in .... 4 years on ..
    7 points
  5. ‘Fantstic result’. Jesus Christ. Mowbray’s men out in force tonight - the dumbing down is well and truly working. We were at home to Boro FFS!!
    7 points
  6. I must admit that I do have some sympathy with regard to the injury situation. I think it's a result of so many games in such a short space of time and can understand why the likes of Pep etc wanted the extra substitutes rule to stay for this season. I suspect we will have any number of players from all clubs going down with muscle injuries throughout the season. Add that the whole business of self-isolating and I suspect we are going to see numerous make-shift sides selected. Where I do agree with you is the point about our non-striking strikers. Gallagher and Brereton have cost a huge amount of money, particularly given our financial position, and neither one looks anywhere near good enough for a team wanting to make a serious challenge for the top six. The buck for that stops at the manager's door. That chance last night was one that any natural goalscorer would have gratefully snapped up. Sadly, these two are always that fraction of a second too late because they are usually on their heels and don't read the game in the way an instinctive goalscorer would. You don't need to be a £5 or £6 million pound striker to score those short of chances - the likes of Tony Field and Simon Garner built careers on snapping up those type of chances. Brereton has scored 1 goal in 10 games and that is when he is supposedly showing good form. Gallagher too is a one goal striker so far, although admittedly he has been sidelined by injury but nothing he has done here in the past suggests he is going to be a 15 or 18 goals a season man. I was looking back at Kendall's side earlier today and I thought last night's game was a game we would have nicked 1-0. Crawford would have done nothing for 89 minutes, snapped up that chance and the defence would have held out for the win. Sadly, I really don't see us getting the 1-0 wins that ensure a successful season at the moment.
    6 points
  7. Baby was born this morning. A little boy. Looks very cute.
    5 points
  8. Watford are a bad example, of course they are a former Premier League team but they have had Gray, Deeney, Dele-Bashiru, Hughes, Capoue, Masina, Perica, Success and a few others all out, they did when they beat us. Reading beat us with possibly their best 2 players out in Ejaria and Swift. "Full strength" Boro last night where without Hall, Morsy and Fletcher as well as Roberts being not fit enough to do anything but make the numbers up. Derby have had loads of bad luck with injuries, Jozwiak got an injury, Rooney had to isolate, Waghorn, Lawrence, Bielek etc yet there was nobody saying it was an under strength Derby that we hammered. Bristol City have just suffered a number of serious injuries all at once. Preston have had loads of injuries. There are so many absentees at the moment across the league, we are particularly hard done to at the moment of course but also we arent on our own. There is a balance to be had between of course having sympathy at the frustration of having so many absentees but equally not just giving the manager a clean slate when there are controllables within the remaining squad whereby Mowbray can constructively be criticised for. If you have 12m worth of attacking talent you can surely expect to have a meaningful attempt at goal at home to Middlesbrough? You surely can expect to take at least one semi successful set piece rather than wasting every single one through the tactical choice to keep going short? But my main issue is with this assumption that as soon as we get a clean bill of health (or close to as that isnt realistic) that we will suddenly click into gear and go on a run. There is absolutely no evidence of that. Our form in 2020 has been piss poor, not just in the last 2 or 3 games in which admittedly the injury table or moreso the list of people isolating has really increased.
    5 points
  9. I have little sympathy with Mowbray about the injury situation. Last night we had two of the clubs most expensive signings in history playing as strikers who didn't manage a shot on target between them and contrived to both miss on a cross that a Blackburn Combination striker would have scored. And both of these were signed by Mowbray.
    5 points
  10. Hi everyone- I had the audacity to go to bed around 10pm last night, so I’ve woken up to a lot of last night’s drama, but just to clarify, saying the following things isn’t alright- ‘I prefer to take the views of people who know what they are talking about’. ’If you don’t think this, then you’re deluded’. Basically, insults and inferring people are clueless isn’t alright and never has been. It’s easier to hide posts, rather than simply dishing out bans, which is something we seek to avoid. We understand that emotions run high after matches haven’t reached the conclusion we all wanted and people may need to let off steam, so we are more lenient than usual. Going forward, this leniency will end. As it appears to be a lot of the same perpetrators digging each other out, which is incredibly disappointing. So, going forward-if you can’t moderate your own behaviour, please don’t start complaining about mods being too harsh with banning, as you’ve had your fair warning now. In short, as ever- just stop it.
    5 points
  11. Absolute nonsense. No-one has a divine right to be in the Premier League whether you're Blackburn Rovers or Manchester United but it would be nice to be challenging and feel like we're in with a genuine chance of achieving by the same. I don't know how much clearer it has to be to convince some people that Mowbray is not remotely capable of delivering that. 15th/11th/15th already this season, five points from the last seven games, I mean come on, do we actually have to be six points adrift at the bottom of the table before we make a change?
    5 points
  12. It’s not what other players could we use it’s what did we do with the players available. We can’t keep trotting out hard luck stories . Maybe last night I’m being harsh as a one off but there is always A reason we can’t compete. ALWAYS. We just need to sort the keeper, we just need to sort the defence, we just need dack back, we just need rothwell driving forward . We just a need a manager who can organise a team of 11 professional footballers from the squad of 30 odd players he’s assembled to be able to play as a unit and maybe just maybe have the odd shot in target
    4 points
  13. I struggle to find sympathy with Mowbray and his injury excuses for the lack of shots in the second half last night. If you look at our team last night in the 2nd half it's not too far away from what we would have usually ended a game with last season. It's arguable that Armstrong and Travis are big misses but the rest is what we would have had to deal with last season when we were managing to be competitive. ie. 3-1 win against Bristol after Covid break. Last night: Pears (arguably just as bad as Walton) Nyambe (better than Bennett) Lenihan Williams JRC (better than Bell) Evans Holtby Rothwell Elliot (better than what we had last season) Gallagher Brereton Last season: Walton Bennett Lenihan Tosin JRC Travis Evans Downing Gallagher Holtby Brereton Basically, what I am saying is the injuries do not wash with me. On paper we still have a squad with the injuries that is better than what we had to deal with last year. I'd have last nights second-half team to beat the Bristol team.
    4 points
  14. Lose to QPR and he should be gone ... they have backed him but got nothing in return apart from excuses... terms like we are on a journey and Risk & Reward are time buying tactics...Venkys need to be ruthless and sack him..The Signings of Gallagher & Brereton are sackable at any other normal run club ... but in the end they will be his downfall .... in the end everything catches up with you .....
    3 points
  15. It's not a fact, it's somebody's opinion.
    3 points
  16. I'll take your word for the grounds, but the names are all correct. The phrase "Herald Goulon at Old Trafford" is enough to send a shiver down my spine.
    3 points
  17. I agree Tony. Even though we were effectively battered for 90 mins, rode our luck, defended bravely, £12 million of striking 'talent' both fluffed their lines in a matter of seconds. Ridiculous as it may be, we should have nicked all 3 points in those few seconds. As 'strikers', there have also been many occasions in the past few games from superb crosses in key territory behind the back 4 and in front of the keeper by Elliott, JRC, Nyambe and Brereton, where if someone had gambled it would just have been a tap in. Dare I say it, I'd get Rhodes in and bin Gallagher.
    3 points
  18. I'm not saying I don't agree that we will be better when the injured players come back. I am saying I don't agree with the narrative that we didn't have any shots because all of our players are out. Tony got it wrong last night, that's the long and short of it. I am under no illusions that when our full-strength team is out, we will be a far sight better. However, we have a SQUAD now that has good depth. Tony even mentions it all the time that our SQUAD is good enough to be up there. So which is it? we still need to be able to perform with the team we put out last night. Yeah, not as good as what it could be but still good enough in my opinion. Sick of the excuses.
    3 points
  19. I'm confused after the transfer window shut many on here were hailing us as having one of the best squads in the division... fast forward a couple of weeks and we are struggling because we are carrying so many injuries and having to use the squad and that is why we are near the foot of the table... ?
    3 points
  20. That’s fine K-Hod, but it needs to be enforced swiftly as one person can completely de-rail a match day thread, which is terrible for the board and can only drive folk away from bothering with this place at all.
    3 points
  21. I really can’t understand the Mowbray out prograde. Well I sort of do, you think by right we should be in the Premier League. You think bin Mowbray, get gods knows who in and all of a sudden we will be EPL. Infact from what I see most you think Damien Johnson is the answer, because you know, you lot love an insider. The majority of you think Johnson was shit, yet we miss him. You said we don’t need Downing now, yet he was our best player last season and now you rejoice he’s back. The majority have bummed Lenihan for last few years, but are now seeing the useless waste of space Williams is our best centre half. The majority wrote of Brereton as a 19yr old flop, desperate for Chapman after his 2 good games in League 1. The majority didn’t want Armstrong anymore, league 1 player, now our star man and top scorer of the league, yet still some aren’t sure cos our million pound man doesn’t finish every opportunity. The disaster that is Mowbray built this squad you all adore. He is the reason we got promoted first time asking, he is the reason we have this squad, (as in Elliott Bennett) another who the majority want out. The majority on here do not have the first clue. Honestly. It’s not good enough right now, but it’s no where near manager out time.
    3 points
  22. We are a decent defesive system away from the play offs/promotion, why waste the season especially with all the loans and out of contracts. The league is shit, now is the time.
    3 points
  23. Special mention for Gallagher tonight, didn’t do a thing right, not even accidentally. You won’t see a worse performance from any forward in any of the top four divisions. It was embarrassing. Need to see some improvement by Christmas or Tony will be out I think.
    3 points
  24. A "poor side" in 5th place . So what does that make us?
    3 points
  25. We have lost the 27th most matches in the league in 2020 from 30 teams that have been involved. Dismal.
    3 points
  26. tbh iv`e never been a fan,overthinks the game and a bad man manager,ok he got us promotion but on that budget it was pretty impossible not to,even then some performances were awful,oldham away in particular sticks out,we should have walked the league but he bottled it not going for wigans throat,now he`s managing at a higher standard he`s found wanting,p****d off harrison reed,blamed raya for all the defensive woes then brought in the worst keeper iv`e ever seen,bought two strikers for big money,one who plays like a frightened rabbit and the other who is lacking in the ability dept, i don`t think we`ll go down but as long as mowbray is here we will always be mid table
    2 points
  27. Said it a million times but he'll never change he has a certain way of working and it works up to a point. But going over it over and over again is just going around in circles it doesn't matter how many personnel or what money. It'll still be the same end result give or take a marginal. Must stress this isn't based on last night and so many players out is a nightmare but the alarm bells were ringing after lockdown last season. I'm just not convinced the fresh influx of signings or Dacks return will alter the long standing issues overnight. Some good things that keep it all steady and a happy camp but too many flaws and reluctance to upset the applecart. So all that really changes is his taglines - stability, evolution not revolution, transition to possession, transition to front foot pressing yet the same problems because its been built right from the start on sandcastle foundations. The thing that should have evolved two years ago is the defense and take if from there. Tosin, Ayala, Douglas just sticking plasters really.
    2 points
  28. We have to sack Mowbray though to have a chance ....
    2 points
  29. Look at united tonight and prior this season. They have the players and a fit squad. The wrong manager , the wrong results, the wrong end of the table. Everyone can see united need pochettino and what would happen if they did get him and it’s the same script here with Tony. The wrong man will get you nowhere. It doesn’t matter who is in the team if they don’t know what there supposed to be doing and they arnt improving on there team and individual errors. I don’t hear many united fans going just wait til that CB Comes in three years from now. They don’t accept it. Why do we
    2 points
  30. Spot on. We are also always *insert reason here* away from putting together a run of wins too.
    2 points
  31. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Learning To Fly
    2 points
  32. Likewise have never been that convinced by him. That said I also think he is clearly the best manager we have had under Venkys (not counting Big Sam) which is a sad indictment of our recruitment process.
    2 points
  33. I was probably in a minority of one, not for the first time, but I would have parted company with him at the end of the promotion season. I wasn't impressed with the way we played most of the time. As we know we rarely managed to play at our optimum for more than 30 or 40 minutes in any game. Given the squad we had that was enough to win most games. You have to be ruthless in football to win the big prizes.
    2 points
  34. Very good job at making out anyone who questions the managers position to be doing so on crazy demands that we have to become a Premier League, have a divine right to do so and sacking Mowbray will instantly grant that wish. The results are consistently inconsistent and underwhelming. This season, across 2020, across last season, its always nearly but not quite and id be amazed if anyone can constructively prove that we are going in the right direction. We just seem to be going sideways, middling along. For 2 years now at least, most keen to defend the manager have done so by claiming that once a mitigating factor is corrected, that everything will fall in to place. Once we fix the defence, well weve actually signed decent players, Adarabioyo last season for one but now especially with Mowbrays expansive tactics the back 4 is more exposed than ever. If Dack is back, then things will fall into place. When we have a fully fit squad we can compete for the top 6, a fully fit squad is a luxury managers very rarely have, but do we start judging when Travis is back around Christmas and refrain from judgement until then at which point any slither of a chance of meeting our expectations might already be gone? Once Gallagher and Brereton start firing, there seemingly is more chance of pigs flying, the fact that we couldnt muster up a credible chance all game with a 12m strikeforce has to be pretty damning on the manager. Our reliance on Armstrong is unhealthy, he has been undoubtedly very good (and the one poster advising dropping him was obviously talking nonsense) but there shouldnt be such a reliance on him and such a drop to our other 2 strikers. The one aspect that i disagree with quite a few is the quality of squad, I think that people overestimate the quality within it. I do think a new manager could get more from it however.
    2 points
  35. 2 points
  36. Since Elliott Bennett months ago no player has been confirmed as having tested positive for Covid.
    2 points
  37. 2 points
  38. Exactly. Why can't a 'professional footballer' playing as a 'striker' anticipate and connect with a straightforward cross? I'd forgive it if these were under 17s, had recently made the step up to this league, or were playing for Mill Hill St. Peters, but these are highly trained (cough cough) experienced and very highly remunerated professional players, whose apparent ineptitude is not only baffling, but actually quite annoying. You could, perhaps, level the same criticism at the entire side - wtf do they do in training? Last night's game was like this was a bunch of blokes whose only common denominator was the blue and white shirt, and who could easily be mistaken for a rag-bag of misfits who had been assembled randomly from a mob of ordinary blokes milling about on Nuttall street 20 minutes before kick off having responded to a club call for volunteers to shore up our depleted ranks.. I mean, these players do know each other, don't they? They do train under the same manager, get drilled on the same game plans and tactics. They do work together at the same club. There IS a plan, a strategy, a mission....Right? Nope, not on last night's evidence, there isn't.
    2 points
  39. That tirade was building up such a head of steam.......and then this sentence happened.
    2 points
  40. That signing alone is a fireable offense
    2 points
  41. Yes Wonder how much he earned for sitting in the stand last night. £10k?** And as soon as a couple of injuries clear up I don't see how he gets in the side ** (I'd have done it for 5)
    2 points
  42. You very rarely have everyone fit in a normal season let alone in a season like this one, with a condensed season and Covid around you are not going to have everyone fit at once. These players missing are just another excuse for Mowbray and his disciples. What will their next excuse be when we get players back and are still stuck in midtable, which will happen.
    2 points
  43. In view of the players available this was not a bad result. I thought the young 'keeper did well all things considered. I thought we were better once Evans came on in midfield but without Armstrong there is no cutting edge. Neither Brereton or Gallagher look like goalscorers which puts a huge amount of pressure on Armstrong. Elliott looks the real deal but Dolan needs to play a bit in the Under-23's for me. Listening to Mowbray after the game I'm amazed that we haven't got more players in self isolation with so many of the backroom staff having to self isolate. Hopefully, we'll get more players back after the international break.
    2 points
  44. This has been the case for well over a year, we will be different if this that and the other happens and it is never ending. If the squad is fully fit, if Dack comes back, if we take our chances, if we fix the defence, if our 12m duo stop impersonating clowns. Do you genuinely think we will be near the play offs? There is no evidence at all, its all baseless hope. You also said that Gallagher and Brereton needed to step up this season. Surely tonight was the perfect chance to step upand highly frustrating and worrying that they were again so out of their depth? Rothwell has barely ever done anything, hes a myth who now hes been injured has turned into a key player.
    2 points
  45. Strange how your point of view changes, depending on the result. After we got tubbed at Watford you loftily informed us how no-one in the know or with any football knowledge judged a team on results, you should ONLY judge it on performances. Now we've scabbed a fortunate point at home because Boro should have, but didn't, score 3 or 4, all of a sudden we're meant to be hailing "a fantastic result!".
    2 points
  46. I was impressed by the way Corry Evans can self isolate while being on the pitch.
    2 points
  47. Anyone who counters Mowbray out with "who would you replace him with". How small minded must you be. Look at clubs that hire unknowns with some success abroad - Graham Potter. Reading hiring some unknown with a good rep abroad, that team is nowhere near better than ours. We just have a shit manager.
    2 points
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