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5 hours ago, arbitro said:
I really think that under these owners transfers are done too late in the window. With them apparently having to sign everything off and their penchant for mind changing it's a bad combination. I remember Samba and Nelsen, two of our best ever signings coming in on trial in the first few days of the January window. Under this lot everything is late or delayed.
I agree. This is the crux of the matter.
I am convinced the McGuire deal was not signed off because there were significant future commitments that required the nod from Pune which wasn't possible at 11 pm UK time. I am sure a lot of work went into agreeing a deal but if it's not approved in advance, Suhail will simply pull it.
On the other hand, Waggott has authority to sign off loan signings and freebies so the Fleck deal went through no problem - even at the ridiculous cost of £20,000 per week wages.
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4 hours ago, philipl said:
The Club statement last week was unequivocal in saying they will not sell.
When did they ever tell the truth ?
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1 hour ago, tomphil said:
The shadowman and Waggot have gone rogue they are running the place to their own tune of cost cutting and making themselves look good to the owners.
Do they want it relegating ? You'd be forgiven for thinking so.
It's Shagnew all over again inside Ewood there are 2 factions at play again pulling in different directions by the sounds of it.
I agree.
It feels to me like Broughton is out of the equation now that JDT has gone. Resorting to YouTube interviews backs that up.
Eustace is 100% a Waggott appointment and he is not going to rock the boat even if we lose our top players over the summer.
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4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:
Course not, not a chance the ‘authorities’ will get involved with this lot.
The court case will soon be forgotten and the bills will be paid, but no further ambition than that for the club, for another decade as we slip down the leagues.
I agree with your prediction if the court case gets sorted but I'm not so sure it's that simple.
There can be no money provided until August. Another postponement or more problems uncovered by the investigation in the meantime then surely their situation becomes untenable and they can't pay the bills even if they are willing to do so. At that point maybe 'the authorities' can step in ?
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2 hours ago, axemurderer88 said:
Looks like there has been an allotment of shares recently...
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07406020/filing-history
That will just be the money they were allowed to send last November or whenever it was. Already accounted for and spent
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35 minutes ago, philipl said:
If an Indian Court is warning this might take a long time....
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/asia/india-judicial-backlog.html
300 year backlog apparently!
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6 hours ago, Mattyblue said:
I’ll make a prediction… Venky’s will own us in a year.
Spoil sport
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2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:
So to summarise:
They currently can't send ANY money over without permission and if they do so it has to be matched by a security bond for an equivalent amount.
However it SEEMS as though there should be ways around the problem if they wanted to send money badly enough so are you insinuating that they might see these problems as somewhat convenient?
If that were the case, why bother going to Court at all? They could just do a Waggott, shrug their shoulders and say "We've done all we can."
They have had 9 or 10 million pounds worth of property siezed. They already have £11 million held by the Indian Government to cover the money they were allowed to send in November. The investigations are said to be at a nascent stage.
If they are seen to be bending any rules at all to send money out of India they will be jumped on by the Indian authorities.
They can borrow money against assets in this country as they have done previously, but I think the only way they will get significant funding to the club is via the Indian courts.
This means a long wait and no guarantee that permission will be granted anyway. I think the club will be told there is no Venky money until August at the earliest. We will need to generate our own income until then. When does the summer transfer window open ?
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15 minutes ago, J*B said:
Thats not correct mate.
To send the money WITHOUT having to duplicate it as a bond they have to go through the court.
They can send as much money as they want right now if they want, but have to match it as a bond to the Government.
I disagree. I don't think they can send money at all without permission. Even then it must be secured by the same amount held in India
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17 minutes ago, arbitro said:
Didn't they borrow some money from a source in this country at a high interest rate? I recall it being reported and I think the source was actually named. A link to Bolton comes to mind.
With the training ground as security
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15 minutes ago, J*B said:
Not necessarily true. The general understanding (as above) is they can still fund it as normal, but for every £1 they send to the club they have to put a £1 deposit into a Indian Government owned Bank as a deposit. Which in summer they obviously didn’t want to do. Either they’re terrified they’ll lose the case or they don’t have (or don’t want) the cash flow of double bubble.
I seem to remember from the previous court documents that they can only send cash over if approved by the court. Even this money must be matched by a security of the same value held in india.
I don't think they are allowed to send any money not approved by the court even if they do provide security. So, they can't fund as normal.
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10 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:
Nope!
Us fans are the ones who genuinely love the Club, worry about it, and care about it's future. We deserve timely updates, particularly given the current state of affairs... instead, we're constantly left in the dark, by morons who couldn't give 2 shits.
So much for "togetherness"...
The situation regarding communication on the subject was referenced In a statement signed by Steve Waggott just a couple of weeks ago ( in a meeting with WATR )
"WATR reiterated that, subject to legal constraints, they wanted the Club to explain the finances better and in more detail with supporters and that explanations as to Indian High Court hearings and the processes were vital to help ensure clarity and to counter all the rumours that occur when there is a communication void"
Who is surprised that there is still a communication void ?
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We've had some important moments against Plymouth. A promotion battle in the 3rd division, Kenny's first match, Speedie's hat trick to make the playoffs, Nicky Marker taking out Ardiles.
Today could be very important one way or the other
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50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:
If ever you wanted a summary of this window. Its having a good Championship midfield until you loan out your captain, sell your main player for big money and then the owners wont allow any reinvestment so you sign an aging freebie who has recently broken the same leg twice, and has a plate in there which withstood 17 minutes of football before requiring further surgery ending his Rovers career.
And that is without even mentioning the on/off purchase, on/off loan and return to Orlando of McGuire due to 'WrongButtonGate'!
Still waiting for the Broughton interview and the promise that it won't happen again! Procedures are in place!!
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1 hour ago, JHRover said:
You know you are small time when you are doing one-off sleeve sponsors for televised cup games.
Sort of thing Maidstone would do when they unexpectedly got through and put on TV in the next round.
Any port in a storm.
The money is running out. Court hearing two weeks today if it isn't postponed again. HMRC bill due.
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9 minutes ago, J*B said:
I don’t think Gregg is going based on what the staff in the lounges were saying against Stoke.
Only because Venky's won't pay his contract up. He may as well hang around and make the tea.
Waggott is in control again like he was when Mowbray was here.
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The announcement of a new manager normally brings fresh hope and excitement. I felt that when JDT arrived.
I have nothing against Eustace at all - a reasonable appointment and I am hoping he is a massive success- but it really hasn't lifted the gloom for me.
I have to be honest and admit that the recent increase in unrest and the potential for protest against Waggott and the owners was giving me some hope that a new dawn could be close.
Now It just feels like another phase of the dark ages. . Venky-fatigue has set in once again. Nothing will change until they leave.
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4 minutes ago, KentExile said:
Head Coach, not manager. Broughton keeps his job ?
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Wasn't Big Sam's first match against Stoke ? a 3 - 0 win if I remember correctly. Pre Venky's of course !
I can see Ennis coming back to haunt us tomorrow.
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7 minutes ago, islander200 said:
That's what is being reported,sry I should have said reportedly .
There have been no reports that JDT is seeking compensation and that is the post I was responding too .
What else do you think the hold up could be then?
Maybe Venky's refusing/unable to pay what he is due under his contract ?
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9 minutes ago, islander200 said:
It's us demanding compensation from JDT/Sweden
How can you possibly know that?
Has JDT resigned or been sacked ? Has he been offered the Sweden job? Any illegal approaches involved ?
All those questions would need to be answered before we can know if your statement is true.
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1 hour ago, ABBEY said:
Lazy bastards
Come on, they had a really tough meeting with the fans on Wednesday. They needed some recovery time
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3 hours ago, mayo said:
My guess is that the delay is down to them wanting JDT to sign an NDA which unfortunately will probably be only way they relieve him of duties and the circus will continue without anyone speaking out.
Or it could simply be down to cost.
Venky's can't currently supply any money and the Wharton cash ( probably only a percentage paid up front from CP ) has been earmarked for HMRC / wages. They will not have budgeted for a big payoff for JDT.
So maybe Venky's won't sanction a sacking and JDT won't walk.
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Interesting that Eustace is still 2nd favourite for the Huddersfield Job ( Sky Bet ).
Despite there not being any odds on the next Rovers boss as the position is not vacant, JDT is 14/1 to be the next Huddersfield boss
v Ipswich Town (h) - Good Friday, 29/3/24, 17:30
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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Not in agreement with the comments saying we played well today.
I thought Ipswich were average at best and they had an off day. They looked shaky at the back and uncomfortable trying to pass out of defence. But we didn't do anything to capitalise. A bit more fight and endeavour, more pressing and more physicality could have seen us win but it never materialised. We created very little indeed.
We had the disallowed goal but we were lucky with the penalty that was not given - so that evens out.
Neither team played well but Ipswich did just enough and we didn't. If we continue to play to that standard for the remaining games we will be very lucky not to be relegated.