Well he's beaten his man half a dozen times and won a penalty so he's not doing too badly... But yes final ball has been poor. If he'd been better we would have scored another one or two.

Have to say we look really impressive so far against Poland. Rice and Phillips are so physically dominant and passing forward well.

One credible defence is a lot of their best players are now in the first team - TAA, Rice, Saka, Sancho, Bellingham, Mount. Not sure is that's the same elsewhere in Europe or we are particularly aggressive at promoting players. It seems when the players get a senior cap they aren't asked to step down again.

It would be a brave fan who would be confident of an England win if we play Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands (all sides you say we are definitely better than). I reckon we'd be roughly 50/50 against all of those to be honest and Portugal also. They've all got good players, we have a weak defence. France and Belgium would definitely expect to beat us. In terms of expectation we should maybe expect to beat everyone not mentioned above (but even then I wouldn't be that confident against the likes of Croatia and Denmark who have very good teams) but after that all bets are off for me. Should be a really good tournament in terms of competitive games.

I think Southgates decided safety first is the best option. Just don't concede and with the attacking players we have we will always have a chance. He's shown in recent games against big teams like Belgium he will not only play two defensive midfielders but also 3 at the back to boot. So very conservative. I reckon we will probably play 2 or 3 different formations during the euros. Southgate fancies himself as a bit of a Bielsa who can switch things up. I don't mind it personally, he's trying a few different things with a focus on defensive stability and he's bringing a lot of new players through who are performing well. Reckon he gets unfair stick. Poland will be a better measure as they will try and come out a bit more unlike Albania. In the last analysis I don't think any manager could get this group of players to reliably beat Belgium or France, we just don't have the same experience and quality (yet). With the players he's got he's done pretty well.

Better but still a bit "church organy"... If I could choose I'd go for "Gold" by Spandau Ballet. Not that it's particularly about England. But what a tune! Reckon we'd win a few things with the crowd belting it out. More seriously... I suppose Jerusalem would do. Has a very good tune and evocative lyrics. Bit God-y, and a bit allegorical maybe, so the temptation would be to come up with a new verse or two to make it a bit more relevant. But not sure messing with the work of William Blake is wise.... Anyway would love anything that isn't God Save the Queen.

The national anthem is total garbage, I can see why players don't feel inspired to sing it. Wish we had a decent one that celebrated the country rather than banging on about saving one of the surely already most safe people on the planet. Not that I have anything against the queen, it's just a terrible tune with even worse words.

Yes he does look in the powerful mode. 17 though... You get the odd wonder kid striker or winger who makes a huge impact at 17. But central midfield.. Can't think many players who have really made a big impact in that role until they are a bit older than that. Seems a big ask for this Euros. But if he does make it Bellingham & Rice could be the midfield pair for 3 world cups given their age.

France look far and away the best squad. Should walk the euros, haven't got a weakness anywhere. Then Belgium next after them who are exceptional but don't have the depth. Below those two England's in that pack of roughly equivalent teams - Spain, Portugal, Germany, Italy, maybe the Dutch have fallen away a bit - who have quality but also weaknesses. Any of them could beat each other. So we could win the Euros but probs about a 5-10% chance alongside each of the other teams at our level, whereas Belgium and France I would say have around a 30% chance each. To kick on and become really dominant we need more physicality like France have with Varene, Kante & Pogba. Their midfield would blow ours away. It's strange because England have always been physical, but recently that's faded away as we have got more technical. Need both to get to the top.

What's the deal with Tomori? He's playing really well for AC Milan and England have really poor centrebacks at the moment. How's he not getting a call up? Seems very odd. I wonder if Southgate has a beef with him for some reason.

Main issue for England at the moment is there is no clear squad really. The only definite on the teamsheet is Kane. You could make a case for multiple players for any other role in the team. Not ideal being so up in the air 2 months before a major tournament. For what it's worth I would aim for something like : Pickford James Stones. Maguire. Chilwell Foden. Rice Mount Rashford. Kane. Stirling But really you look at that side and say it is very talented, and you would love to have a few of those players in your team. But where's the experience? Maguire and Pickford have been shaky, Henderson's injured. Stones has only just come back into the squad. Tricky. I can see the the attraction in Lingard to add some experience. But not really inspirational.

For 90% of the game yes, but we had several moments of total defensive lunacy where we were lucky to only concede once due to a mix of poor finishing from Norwich and defensive heroics from Lenihan and Kaminski. Rothwell and Douglas both gave the ball away in really dangerous areas, and we got outnumbered on the counter several times... I would say we would have had a much better season if 1) We had a steady fit quality partner for Lenihan - we've got one now in H-B but it's taken 70% of the season 2) we had an effective defensive left back - Douglas has improved offensively but defensively he is absolutely shocking. I'd honestly rather have Bell. 3) We had some tactical flexibility to change things when we play against teams who set out to nullify us, and be prepared to focus more on defending than attacking in some games and counter attack. Next team who we play who decide to 343 us like Preston or Barnsley will batter us. Sure Wycombe will do this as their manager will have watched the videos since we battered them and figured out a simple change is all that is required to turn the tables.... Also - I'm sure no matter who we appoint as next manager from the entire world of football we won't be seeing Gallagher on the wing and Buckley/Elliott at CF. I mean it is absolutely insane.

Good performance from most ways of looking at it, but actually if you think about decent chances we relied on Kaminski a lot more than Norwich did on Krul. It's the same adage that we can dominate long phases of the game in terms of possession and half chances, but we will steadily gift 3 or 4 quality chances to the other side per game. And recently on top of that we have really struggled to generate good attacking chances. it's not a winning formula... We would be better off to play more conservatively and gift fewer opportunities to the opposition. We've got a good set of counter attacking players. We could play that way...

Overall thought we totally dominated the game in terms of stats, but we were quite lucky to get out with the draw. We gifted Bristol City quite a few really good chances that they luckily didn't finish. Sort of shows the issue with Mowbray's philosophy - what's the point in dominating possession and having more long range shorts if you are going to give away three or four quality chances every game for nothing, and never actually get in behind the opposition? We really lack someone who can score goals when the opposition sits deep. A proper target man. And Douglas is a total liability defensively at left back. Anyway... we've had four years now. It's not going to change. Time for someone else to have a spin.

Why is he still here? What do we really think will change in the new season? Surely he must be going shortly.... It must be dawning on the owners that the risks that we get relegated next year are rising.

Thats amazing. Reminds me of quite a few exchanges on here!

I am just totally amazed he is still here. We've won one game in ten, lost seven in ten, we had the explicit target of making top six. It's insane he is still in a job.

This is an interesting read. https://www.physioroom.com/info/acl-knee-injury-players-who-overcame-it/

Considering the vast numbers of players we need I would say it's pretty key we hold onto the few who are decent and not that injury prone. Absolute maximum number of decent players you could sign in a single window is, I would say, 8 so if your are looking for 15 your just going to pick up rubbish imo. So keep - Kaminski, Nyambe, JRC, Pickering, Lenihan, Wharton, JRC, Rothwell, Buckley, Travis, Dack, Brereton, Dolan Release - Johnson, Holtby (sad to see him go as is quality but way too injury prone), Evans, Bell, Douglas, Downing, Davenport, Bennett, Branthwaite Sign - Trybull, a new bloody pitch, CB, lb, rb, cm, cf x2, lw, rw Promote from youth - McBride, Pike, Magloire, Carter Successfully Sell - Armstrong Try and sell but no one will have - Gallagher, Ayala Loan again - Elliott, Harwood Bellis Aim for a first team of. Kaminski Nyambe. Lenihan. THB. Pickering Travis. Buckley Elliott. Rothwell. Brereton Top signing... But as ever it will really come down to how many injuries we get. We really really have to sign players who.di not have injury records.

Nah I think everyone would have been furious, he's the only player out there who has any goal scoring pedigree at all.

My mate did both of his ACLs quite rapidly after each other. Why do you think that is? Seems odd that you would be more vulnerable?

He looked absolutely devastated.

Brentford have been really well run for 10 years now but never been promoted. Shows how hard it is to get out of the division.

To be fair he spent a lot of his career wide left. Big Sam loved a wide forward....

Yeah, but part of that is he is asked to run with the ball and pass it from wide which is mad. I think with a run at centre forward he would be better. But maybe not.