Pretty much yes mate - if we don’t we will have an empty stadium , little more than a shell of a club owned by Indian chicken farmers who have run up debts of Half a billion in ten years time ....... and probably Mowbray still here telling the LT that this weekends game against Solihull Moors is tough because they’ve got good players !!!! Feck me I’m depressing myself

Lol - you mean like that giant Woodrow , their centre forward ???!

There seems no logical pattern or strategy to what we are doing . The point I was trying to make ( probably poorly) was that we lose £20mill every year , waste £15m on strikers and then can’t sign any defenders / proper quality keeper . We will get to the £39mill maximum loss for ffp anyway . Why don’t they put 2 fingers up , bring a top proven manager in and give him £50m in one go and damn the consequences ? Whatever the fine it would probably we worth it overall if they got to the PL , got proper money and actually then have a PL club to sell . That way at least they’d get something decent back for the boat loads they have spent so far . The way we are going we will be stuck losing money every year and stuck with the threat of embargo so in effect we just can’t manoeuvre from the nightmare we are currently in .

But we are going to get there anyway . Has anybody really been hammered yet under FFP? Seems worth a shot for Venkys to have a crack rather than simply crawl to half a billion of wasted money

I’m don’t disagree but the current rate of annual losses to fund the club will mean In Ten years time , Venkys will be close to having £0.5billion invested in Rovers.... half a feckin billion .!! now we have debated many times why they don’t have a proper go to try to get to the PL which would at least see them recover something if they sold it but this slow death is just impossible to comprehend. But however wealthy they are you have to think that the plug is gonna get pulled before they get to those sort of numbers .Then what ??? so for all those who thank Venkys for keeping paying the bills I suggest there needs to be a stop and think moment. This can’t continue indefinitely.

What the hell is that Mowbray 1000 days article in today’s LT ? Is it just me or is Mowbray some genius manager who has saved our Club? It’s like he’s some kind of messiah reading that . Christ we are in a relegation scrap for the short term at least and yet there is more babble about us being in far better shape than when he arrived . Really? Considering what he’s spent ? another classic LT article no doubt prescribed by the clubs own spin doctors . Its like we’ve been dropped into the Trueman Show

thanks Bruce but we don’t !

Totally agree JHR. no doubt DJ is well thought of and is probably a very good coach and developer of good talent . But he’s never been on the frontline . U23s is not the frontline . our frontline , in the championship ( for now), in a toxic club, run by idiots from 6000 miles away with zero power in the UK or a board that are complete puppets is a long way beyond a guy who has never been exposed to that before . One of those single elements is bad enough but we have all of them!! Mowbray is a clown who needs to go but DJ isn’t that man to replace him - at least not yet . The next guy must be a very strong and forthright disciplinarian which is the complete opposite character of what Suhail or Venkys want here . Hence the reason we are well and truly in the mire.

“But we’ve done everything we can to re engage the missing fans “. Aye ok , total and utter muppets running that club . Different spin when they’ve got guys with all the costs of going to Singapore and the Big Apple trying to forge relationships and build the Rovers brand . Ignore the ones here under their noses and continue to treat them with contempt ( fleecing would be another word for it). I have just lost all my love for something I’ve lived for and supported for 50 years . It’s been drained out of me by some absentee landlords and the catalogue of idiots and chancers who continue to turn up , know nothing about the Club or it’s heritage and spout complete tripe- Mowbray included . wrong thread apology from me if required.

And therein lies the problem Mark . Waggott will be crapping himself that those like you who currently buy a full ST will downgrade to a lesser offer at which point his stretch target bollox which no doubt gets reported to India etc will be down the pan . The fact that an offer of that type might attract 12000 people will be lost on him ......” but what about if they all choose the Millwall home game to stay away Madam and there’s only 5000 in the stadium ?” “speak to Suhail about it Steve , I have some chickens to throttle “

He will take a 1-2 defeat and spend next week saying we were away to a top side and ran them close and it’s a league of fine margins . Just watch . The bloke is deluded . I really wish he was playing football with his kids in the garden on a Saturday afternoon like he keeps referring to . He made more of an impact at the bloody Diwali thing than he does on the team . Idiot .

I bet it’s not far off tbh. Eye watering total wage bill - no wonder with all the running costs we are losing fortunes every year !

Tyrone , I think we need more analysis booths so our scouting dept can do proper research !! Like you say , he should know what he’s signing .How many times do we hear managers say they looked deeply into the character of a player before signing him? Another shooting of his own foot by Mowbray By the sounds of it . just why does he spout this absolute crap so often ?? There’s no benefit in saying it so why say it at all ?? If it was Mourinho saying the same stuff you’d swear it was a deliberate wind up tactic .

yes much more in tune with the situation than that clown writing in todays LT. Still, there is always the Bingo to look forward to when the football fails us!!

Agree - if these morons are as wealthy as we all think and their indifference to £200million of debt suggests they might be then I don’t get why they don’t do a proper job in hiring a proper manager and bankrolling is into the PL. that’s the only way they will get any significant sum back .Alternatively it’s death by a thousand cuts and ten years from now we’ll be saying the same things but half a billion in debt. makes zero sense and never has .

After what we have seen of him know of him as a manager in what universe does he look like a director of football ffs? his transfer dealings are shambolic , his tactics are worse and he spouts utter drivel on a daily basis . i have no clue where anybody who hasn’t been drinking heavily can think he’s DoF material.

Defenders are coming

It’s beyond words . whatever credit this idiot had in the bank - and that’s more to do with his demeanour off the field than on it - it’s rapidly disappearing . I always thought his conservatism was the thing that failed to stop relegation ;we had enough about us to stay up .But that’s all in the past . however this bloke is now in way over his head and it’s the ramblings of a lunatic . He has shown nothing on any level to suggest he can manage his way out of the current situation . A couple of results would clearly help but we all know that any redemption would be purely temporary because the bloke has ‘ gone’. He needs putting out of misery quickly for everyone’s sake . The truly galling thing is the mutes who masquerade as our board are impotent and will be thinking that any rocking of boats might rebound on their own cosy positions. I bet they are crapping themselves desperate for some miracle . In Tony we trust my ass. I genuinely think he’s just lost it , lock stock and barrel . In any other industry if the top guy was coming out with this bollocks you’d stand him down and send him on a long holiday for his own good . i really do think we are at that point and with fans ready to turn on him it could break the guy . I think it’s gone past him being just crap , I think we are on the brink of mental illness .

In 3 games time it absolutely will be pal

But we’ve got new analysis booths and I see the progress on the grass. We just need to be better with the ball , if ever we get it , grow into our new identity , take more of our opportunities, if we ever create any, and try to stop them going in at the other end !! you complete tit ; go and get your coat

1) He gets good jobs for his mates 2) he can lie with impunity

Progress is being made we have a new identity Defenders are coming I’ve got all my mates a job Just go you moron

More chance of giving him a dressing gown!

Don’t disagree but 12 games in I doubt many will be match fit and in Tony’s regime he doesn’t pick them for 6 months even when they are

If only !!! I see he is in Croatia squad to play Wales this weekend .We always knew we would regret no getting one like this in and after 12 games we look in bother with defensive injuries . What a surprise eh Tony? any body still think we are dark horses???