I don't think you can call them for not spending money - it is more the choice of personnel to spend that money that is in question.

How do you know it is the owners ? On the whole - except for when FFP intervenes - the owners have given TM everything he asked for (his words previously). We have a budget far in excess of our income - partly down to money wasted by TM. So yes - we need them to sign new contracts - but he has to take some of the blame for the whole situation - as does Waggot.

Hopefully not - but you have to give him some credit. If I am totally honest I thought we paid over the odds for Armstrong - whether by luck or good judgement - his transition from winger to an effective central striker has been a transformation (especially as many considered him too small to effectively play that role)

I am sure he would like some 😁

When your team mate is Dack - I think he will want to sort a move out while he can - an injury could totally change everything for him.

It would be really interesting to review how many signings he has made with a Boro connection - out of all the signings he has made. Obvious ones are Pears, Ayala, Chapman and Downing - help me out as there must be more in his 4 years to justify the fixation claims.

Surprised there isn't more focus on the fact that our £7m striker could leave for next to nothing at the end of the season. Though he will be under 24 - if he goes abroad I don't think we would get anything.

What is difficult to really know, are the Venkys withdrawing funding or are we being forced in order to meet FFP rules. What seems certain - the timing of Dacks initial injury prior to a rumoured move to WBA could not have been worse.

More realistic - we sell both 🤪

Who needs Armstrong when we have Brereton on a multi month contract

I think very little, if any will be reinvested - I would imagine most will be used to avoid us running foul of FFP rules.

He wasn’t there - whether that would have made a difference is open to debate.

If we had won 5-0 would you be saying Mowbray is a wonderful manager - or more realistically, it is pre-season and doesn't mean a great deal. I am trying not to read too much into the result as it is all about the first match against Swansea - however todays match day squad does show how short we are in certain positions. It is interesting - as other than Elliott and Harwood Bellis we haven't really lost a lot from the 11 that departed - but we still need at least two or three first team players plus a couple of back ups.

I thought by chance we ended up with a half decent defence - possibly other than left back (even Douglas looked on paper like a good loan at first). We were unlucky with injuries (especially Wharton). But, after collating what should have been a top 6 challenging team - he couldn't get the results. I also think defending isn't just about the defence - but about the team as a whole. So we possibly agree (of sorts) - but for me I would give him time to build - but last season IMO all the pieces were there.

I totally agree - he slowly built a squad finally ready to challenge the top 6. Last season was the killer for me - prior to that I think he did a good job and made us more like a proper football club. But last season we massively underachieved - partly down to his management - but his excuses and cliches became tiresome (and that is with a positive spin). He needs to do what he always said he would - we have stalled, he isn't the man to take us forward, stand aside and let somebody new have a go.

Lots of the older generation remember the old Ewood, having no money, being chuffed when we bought Norman Bell for £70k and then realising £70k doesn't buy a lot (even in those days). My expectations aren't particularly high - Jack provided memories I never thought I would have as a Rovers fan. All I want is a properly functioning club, and for Jack's legacy to be honoured.

I have yet to renew - and the COVID impact is at the front of my mind. But again - this should have been part of the sales blurb from the club (i.e. if another lockdown - this is what will happen). They could even move to provide assurances for people who are concerned about coming back to the ground during the ongoing pandemic. The apparent lack of planning and information coming from the club around Season Tickets to help sell them is poor.

enjoy

And some of those fans will come on here having a go at the owners for not putting in more money 🙄 While the fan base declines as "rovers till I die" fans disappear - nobody seems to consider the worse case scenario. The owners may decide enough is enough and withdraw its annual support forcing a mass scaling back of the club, they dont necessarily have to sell, they could just let the club and its dwindling fan base slowly die.

His agent obviously did a good job for his client

Still doesn't make any difference - is the guy any good at his job - he had some stellar "finds" on his CV. Does he have a good overall hit rate for unearthing talent - is he any good ?

Lancs live has an interesting article on him. TBH I have no idea whether he is good at his job or not - and for me that is the key rather than the fact that he once worked with TM at Celtic.

I can see football being decimated by Covid. Delta variant plus removal of rules will mean far more self isolation than we previously seen. Government hide behind the vaccine - but it doesn't stop you getting it (or passing it on) as I have found myself.

Please read the full thread of the conversation before spouting off , this was in response to the comment "I have never been more apathetic before a season". Personally I was more apathetic prior to another season under Kean than I have ever been under TM. Nothing to do with accepting mediciority, but hey why let details get in the way.

I think you need to remember the Kean era