JacknOry

4-4-2 will never happen under TM.

did you watch it a fair bit Alex?

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QPR beating Boro just shows that we yet again dropped points we should have taken. We were against ten men too - Boro are that early favorite that will fall like a stone and we should have sped that process up as they are terrible at the minute. Dropped points will be what this season will be remembered for on our part.

We have thrown more points away when in winning positions than any other team in the league - if you just took the 2+2 points thrown in the last two matches, we're touching the playoffs. We're 12th now and this is probably where we're going to finish, maybe a little lower. Would have taken it at start of season of course but when you consider the points we've thrown away, it really should have been better.

Well that was fun yesterday. Board was down, couldnt find a river, we were 2-0, finally found a stream for a few minutes - unfortunately it was the few minutes we threw the game away. The stream then went down - how fantastic! What was going on with the forum?

I think he could potentially be top flight material - lets face it, he is attracting clubs for his performances in the Championship after all. There is only one more step to make and he has to be among the highest scoring midfielders/attacking midfielders in the division so far. English, still young enough. Not only that but he makes us tick creatively, he is the man that more often than not makes things happen. Even when he is marked out of a game and is less effective, you can bet he will still be involved in anything good going on in the forward department. I think around better players he could really shine tbh - he has a lot on his shoulders here as he 'is' the spark, the creativeness most of the time - who else is there? Reed is the energy but when it comes to a clever pass, a clever run, taking on a player, that technique and control, there is nobody else in our team. Palmer perhaps has some of that but he isnt ours.

Could have just flicked it back inside for Mulgrew before he made that last fatal turn.

Thought Baptiste was pretty good in his stint with us. How old is he now - yes i am that lazy.

Doubt we are the only fixture. If it was same games won and same goals scored - now that would be amazing lol

Number 3 please Bob

All Londoners sound thick

see my comment above Schumacher is a 7 times world champion because he had the best car, as did Vettel. Hamilton has won world championships in two different teams, Blitzed a world champion team mate in his rookie year and is breaking records left right and centre. It is not ALWAYS the car. Even at the end of his mClaren days in dogs of cars he was winning races and competing. A true champion is able to take the car further than anyone else. Look at what Alonso has done at Mclaren since they have been shite - dominating his teammate and getting points and positions out of nowhere.

Coinciding with Mercs dominance you mean? Like Red Bull and Ferrari both having their periods of dominance shortly before. I do not understand why people always says its the car and not the driver, of course the car is a major aspect but Bottas had the same car, Webber had the same car, and Massa had the same car - they were all blown away by the better drivers.

Doesnt Lampard have an exceptionally high IQ or something - for those wondering - google it.

Not sure he would have ended up at a top championship club tbh, though he would have been a good 'freebie' for someone. Not sure a single club has sniffed around him since being with us which you would expect if he was good enough for one of the better teams. That said, he has been very good last season and this so far, so happy for him to get an extension. Just hope he proves me wrong now and does not drop his effort levels.

Certainly not on the level of a Dack, Graham or Mulgrew renewal. The timing of the announcement again is quite funny considering he could and probably should have scored a couple at the weekend - and then building up the excitement with a clip of his 4 goals.

Watched it all my life actually. Yes they were all unpopular at certain points but we're talking British press and British stars here - Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso etc are foreign. This is why I made my comparisons to Button as they are hardly going to be targeted by the British press simply because only F1 fans will have a clue who they are.

Our very own Youth Team Coach Damien Johnson is another.

But even King had more to his game than kick and run, he could at least take players on with a bit of skill and had a bit of height. Its AA's finishing that has really let him down - something that he seemed to have last season. If he could finish he would not be too far behind Dack in terms of goals this season when you consider the chances he has had. That lack of goals highligts his other weaknesses more as nobody would care too much as long as he was knocking in some goals.

Exactly, Its almost as if nobody even knows Button and most F1 drivers in fact do it but for some reason Hamilton is the one scrutinised for it. Still, like you say, it could just be because he comes across as arrogant, bling, and not as likeable as Button rather than his colour. You do make some valid points though so it might not all be as black and white (no pun intended) as its being made out but as somebody else mentioned, it is at least important that a step forward is made and that these things are discussed going forwards.

You make some good points but to be linked by the press to murders because of a tattoo is utterly ridiculous. You pointed out Hamilton living in a tax free haven - so does Jenson Button and most other Formula 1 drivers but its only Hamilton you hear about. It is not a popularity contest - perhaps Hamilton is a bit of a dick but so was Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso - they are all spoiled brats but who is the one that gets it all? You then go on about boxing, I do wonder why boxers dont get it so much but i do feel its because perhaps there is a mindset that is where some feel they belong. Beating the crap out of each other for entertainment. As others have pointed out - a white man gets the hero worship but black men dont in football - not in this country anyway.

Yup, like why couldnt he have just used his left leg?

That Dunn clip always makes me laugh. Think we will take this one - 2-1.

Lewis Hamilton gets it too from the media despite being the best Formula 1 driver we have ever produced. Disgusting really as if it was Jenson Button the media would be drooling.