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  1. 42 minutes ago, Tom said:

    Did you really ‘reveal’ it Tombo or was it already coming out of twitter?

     

    On 13/09/2020 at 18:14, RovingRover said:

    Daniel Ayala might be back on.

    Snag is he has been abroad so will need to quarantine.

    Check the time and the date I posted the message and spend a little less time being obnoxious to strangers.

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  2. 23 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

    Nixon reporting Ayala signing very much back on

    As I revealed over 24 hours ago. Nice of the Sun man to catch up. ?

    53 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

    Was on £2k at Dortmund according to FM20, and he only ever played one game for Dortmund first team. You'd hope wages wouldn't be an issue! 

    Football Manager and Fifa are very good at getting player wages spot on in some cases. But in the cases of younger lesser known players they are horrendously off. Take that from someone who worked for EA 5ish years ago.

    Oelschlägel is on closer to £10,000 a week than £2,000 a week. Similar wages to Jordan Archer. Slightly less than Rob Elliot would want.

    The price structure Tony is trying to stick to for the second keeper is the £3,000-£5,000 a week bracket. Pears should meet that bracket. Oelschlägel would need to come down a bit.

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  3. 19 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

    I notice Ayala hasn't played since  1st Jan. Has he been injured ? 

    Initially looked up Ruben Ayala who hasn't played since 1984!

    He refused to sign a disclaimer without a new contract that would have left him screwed signing for a new club after his contract with Boro expired.

    They basically wanted him to play with no protection should he be injured playing for them.

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  4. 14 minutes ago, islander200 said:

    If any truth to these Garner rumours surely be looking to loan out Davenport or sell him .

    Be a shame as he hasn't had much of an opportunity, he did well at Burton the matches I seen and has shown a bit of promise the few chances he has had here, but must be well out of the picture if he isn't being given a chance against Newcastle

    With Mowbray's virtual 5 man midfield, I'm still of the belief we are 1 man short.

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  5. 21 minutes ago, Mike E said:

    Re: Ayala, hope it's a case of:

    Agreed terms with Blackburn, great!

    Oh, Saudi club are offering double? Might as well see what it's like.

    Ugh, no thanks. Blackburn it is!

    Shame for him is that making that choice he has incurred a 2 week long quarantine if he comes back to the UK.

    In other news, Mowbray, who see's no hurry in the transfer market and following through with players has only had 17 players in training for the Newcastle United match.

    Remember, most of these players are going to have to play the next Championship game as well.

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  6. Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

    Any news on the LB? You said it defo wasn't Cunningham IIRC

    I don't think so no, it's not a name I have heard of as being active but you never know. Obviously he has a previous working relationship with Mowbray so that has the potential to move faster than other deals.

    The Chilean LB worries me.

  7. 20 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

    There is a hierarchy of goalkeepers at pretty much every club. In an ideal world then yes you have a second choice keeper who is fantastic but this is a mid table Championship club who have let in 132 goals over the last 2 seasons and have not added any defenders to that defence. You need a defence that can defend otherwise you are not going to achieve much. A Camp or a Steele would provide solid experienced competition/back up for Kaminski and would be free transfers allowing us to use funds to buy starting 11 players for our defence.  

    I didn't say fantastic. I just meant has potential to progress and force his way into the reckoning.

    From the list posted earlier. Only Archer has this potential over Kasinski in my opinion. Pears is a bit of a wildcard but he definitely has the potential to force his way into Mowbray's thinking if Kasinski has a wobble.

  8. 1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

    You are never going to get much if any of a resale value from a second choice keeper, take Leutwiler as an example a cheap back up signing but we still made a loss on him. I'd rather get a steady experienced back up option on a free and spend money on positions where we have no dominant starter i.e. Centre back, Left back.

    That's the flaw.

    You need a keeper to challenge. Not a keeper to just sit there and come on when called upon.

    I went Kasinski to feel like the No.2 keeper is breathing down his neck so he is on his toes to keep form.

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  9. 4 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

    It's a second choice keeper who cares about resale value and if he is going to sit on the bench most of the time then his value isn't exactly going to sky rocket. All I want from a reserve keeper is someone with some experience who can comfortably fill in and who can also give Kaminski some advice should he at any point struggle to adapt to the Championship. Leutiwler was ideal for the role in League 1 and I think someone like Camp or Steele would be ideal for the role this and probably next season, by which point hopefully one of the young keepers we already have on our books will hopefully be ready for the first team squad.

    Two flaws with your thinking 

    One- The owners are looking at resale value. Signings are investments and not stop-gaps

    Two- Surely we want players who can challenge the dominant starters?

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  10. 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

    Not every player needs resale value, he wont develop much sat on the bench and any wage discussion is purely speculative.

    Not really.

    I know how much Rob Elliot (circa £15k a week) was on at the Toon and how much he would want to move on.

    Pears on the otherhand has talent, will become a better keeper and challenge Kasinski and would be overall vastly cheaper (circa £3k-£4k a week) than Elliot a player I advocated a week or two ago. He would also give us an option got years to come whilst Elliot has a short expiration date in playing days.

    18 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

    A free transfer so that the money can be spent where it is needed most, on the defence. The likes of Luke Steele, Lee Camp, Jordan Archer all have plenty of Championship experience and are available on frees.

    Luke Steele isn't as good as Pears.

    Lee Camp isn't as good as Pears.

    Jordan Archer is as good, but will be on at least 3 times the wages.

    Free transfers aren't always as cheap as deals where fee's are paid.

    As I said above. A deal for Rob Elliot or Jordan Archer would likely cost more than a deal for Pears over the course of 2 seasons when you factor in resale and potential development.

    In a perfect world Jordan Archer would come in on reduced wages to challenge Kasinski. But I think he wouldn't come in unless assured 1st team football.

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  11. 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

    No one has suggested that we have Fisher as number 2 goalkeeper. I think I am the only one to question the rumour, and my main doubt is whether we should spend a fee of our limited resources on a sub, rather than just picking up a freebie, maybe someone like Rob Elliott. I would be surprised if they sold him for the price you mentioned.

    In terms of quality, I am sure he would be fine, although I am not sure that Boro fans are overly arsed that he might be going.

    I also would be surprised to see him leave his hometown club where he is sub to come here again to be sub. I doubt we would be giving him a big wage and Kaminski will be here for a couple of years so where is the opportunity for him to play and justify moving? 

    No resale value.

    Vastly higher wages.

    Would ultimately cost more than Pears over 2 seasons.

  12. I don't even get the debate on here regards Aynsley Pears.

    It's not debatable as to whether he is better than Fisher. He is. Miles ahead of him. He is better with his reflex saves, his handling is better and his diving especially at close range is better. £200,000-£300,000 isn't a lot of money for a talented 22 year old keeper who has experience at this level. What do people on here expect from a second keeper?

    Do people want to go into the season knowing that if Kaminski gets injured we will have to play with Fisher as No.1 until January with Jordan Eastham as backup.

    Disagree with a lot of what Mowbray has done this summer regards transfers. But this is not a  bad option.

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