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  1. Seeing as the TV thread seems to have disappeared, I will post in this thread and the mods can move to the old thread if found?

    How brilliant is Game of Thrones? last nights episode “Blackwater” was without doubt the single best piece of Television I have ever witnessed.

    HBO have created some quite brilliant dramas in the past The Wire, Sopranos, Six feet under. Game of Thrones imo already surpasses all of aforementioned. I for one have not read the books, so cannot comment on how close the writers diverge from the original story, but the characters have so much depth, the acting is top notch and the sets are beyond belief and to top it all off most of the cast are British and filming takes place in N Ireland.

    It truly is outstanding.

  2. Benni is without doubt the best finisher at the club and IMO one of the best finishers in the premiership. The problem with him, is not only his fitness and mental state, but also the fact that he can not play a lone target man role. He requires a partner, who will do all the donkey work- Sam obviously doesn’t fancy any of his strikers apart from Di Santo.

    Therefore whilst Sam is in charge it will probably be best to sell Benni, but with caveat attached- that whatever is generated in terms of funds/wages will be given back to the manager. As it would be pretty pointless to sell a player with Benni's undoubted qualities and be scratching around looking for cheap loans.

    We only have to look at the disaster that was last summers dealings, when Sam sold circa 28 millions pounds worth of players yet was given a budget of only 12 million in return.

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  3. I'd still argue that. That isn't to say he wouldn't be world class still, but I just don't think he would be AS good. I think if Ronaldo went to Spain he would look a lot better, same for a lot of the more technically gifted players who have been in the premiership. I don't think Henry would still be as relevant in this league as he is in La Liga, but then I think Tevez, Nani, Anderson or Berbatov would look even better in Spain. Each league asks something slightly different of players, the very best in the world will look good everywhere (Messi, Ronaldo, etc), but that doesn't mean that there aren't leagues where they will be more effective. There's no way that a team in England would ever have the +70ish goal difference that Barcelona have, it is an indication of how their open style of play leads goals being scored and also allows a great side to dominate far more easily than in England. Messi would be a fantastic player anywhere in the world, but the slower pace and less physical nature of the Spanish game makes his life a bit easier.

    Eddie- Messi is the best player in the World. Stop trying to argue that he isn't.

    He would shine in any league in the world due to his footballing genius. Utd supposed world-class defence couldn’t get near him.

  4. Bazza,

    I'm not quite sure where you get your skills on carrying out a rational discussion from, but you do seem to be wandering far and wide.

    On 27th September Blue Phil posted:

    My reply was that the list of the poorest countries did not have a religious connection

    United Nations list of least developed countries

    and I invited him to co-ordinate religion & poverty from that list.

    You said

    No Bazza, I didn't imply it. I quoted from the link from the United Nations. (see above.)

    I didn't imply any such thing.

    Thank you. You have just proved the point that Afghanistan is not the poorest nation in the world because of it's religion, as Blue Phil said. Saudi Arabia et al are stinking rich. Their religion has nothing to do with it.

    But when it comes to Afghanistan their poverty has apparantly got everything to do with religion.

    Do try and form a cogent arguement.

    Colin you are either playing dumb or been dogmatic- I can’t work you out.

    Under the Taliban literacy & Numeracy rates where amongst the lowest in the world- simply because there fundamentalist ideals didn’t allow education to girls after the age of about 14. Having one of the lowest skill bases in the world is hardly a good base to drive forward the economy is it (I won’t even mention quality of life – because the Taliban vision included the banning of music, television and even kites). Women were treated lower than animals in many cases.

    A radical Islamist (Taliban) does not see a distinction between religion and politics – they are the same. Something we in the West with our secular mindset can’t get our heads around. I suspect that you are simply referring to religion within a western context where the church, politics (and everything else economy, society etc) is separate- this was not the case in Afghanistan. So to answer your question; religion had everything to do with the oppressive poverty stricken conditions that Afghanistan has suffered for the past couple of decades. Unfortunately, for Afghanistan it does not sit on half of the worlds oil to prop its economy up.

    As for your other examples- They represent amongst the most unequal societies in the world. With 1% of the population been worth more than the rest combined. I reiterate the House of Saud is worth over 20% of its nations GNP- most of Saudi’s interior ( najd) live in absolute abject poverty, with the problem been that Women are treated as second class citizens.

  5. Hang on a moment. I was just suggesting to Blue Phil that perhaps the poverty of Afganistan was not related to the religion of its people. I just quoted UN

    Please feel free and enter the debate. Is Afganistan the poorest county on earth because of its religion as Blue Phil suggests? Or are there other factors at work. Certainly The United Arab Emirates & Saudi Arabia & The Gulf States seem to be doing Ok for themselves despite whatever god they beleive in.

    No Colin you have implied that Afghanistan is the poorest nation in the World- It clearly isn’t. Furthermore, you are also implying that conditions in the country are both economically & socially worse since the coalition invasion- again this is in incorrect.

    Under the Taliban -Afghanistan was the poorest nation on the planet- due to the medievalist, monolithic Islamist vision that the Taliban forced on the populace.

    Today conditions are horrific in a Helmand and Kandahar provinces due to foreign Jihadist’s trying to overthrow the current regime and expel the NATO & UN forces from the region. Yet the rest of the country is free from foreign Jihadist’s and economically better off than it has been for decades.

    I just love the examples you have given – Between they sit on over half the worlds Oil & natural gas reserves; coupled with the fact they have low population distributions & low density- they should be economically well off . Saudi-Arabia may have a large GNP – but three-quarters of the population live in abject poverty, with the House of Saud accounting for over 20% of that nations wealth.

    It is also quite possibly the most intolerant society in the World

  6. Well you've got No 1 right. According to the United nations the 25 poorest countries in the world are as follows:

    1 Afghanistan

    2 Angola

    3 Bangladesh

    4 Benin

    5 Bhutan

    6 Burkina Faso

    7 Burundi

    8 Cambodia

    9 Cape Verde

    10 Central African Republic

    11 Chad

    12 Comoros

    13 Democratic Republic of the Congo

    14 Djibouti

    15 Equatorial Guinea

    16 Eritrea

    17 Ethiopia

    18 Gambia

    19 Guinea

    20 Guinea-Bissau

    21 Haiti

    22 Kiribati

    23 Lao People’s Democratic Republic

    24 Lesotho

    25 Liberia

    Care to assign an "unbending culture/religion" to each of these and see what pops up at the end?

    Let us know if you find anything. I'd be interested.

    Cheers

    Strange that Colin, but every source I have read claims that Afghanistan; whilst very poor is no where near as poor as you suggest. Infact that there are around a dozen nations in Africa whose GDP per capita is far lower than that of Afghanistan’s

    It also has economic growth of over 12% (some of which can be apportioned to the record poppy crop & International aid)

    Sources

    Afghanistan Economic overview

    List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita

    I would check the date & validity of your sources Colin. BTW what is your point is it just dogmatism for the sake of it? :rolleyes:

  7. Really? Here's a Channel 4 news report from less than a week ago. The important bits are from about 7 mins onwards - with the "Taliban" drinking, gambling and listening to music (all banned by their formerly extremist incarnation):

    http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/poli...e+enemy/2458502

    This report is also important as it mentions the funding of the Taliban from outside countries (Pakistan) not from opium.

    Besides which the old fundamentalist Taliban (before they were ousted by us) almost eradicated opium production:

    "The area of land given over to growing opium poppies in 2001 fell by 91 per cent compared with the year before, according to the UN Drug Control Programme's (UNDCP) annual survey of Afghanistan. Production of fresh opium, the raw material for heroin, went down by an unprecedented 94 per cent, from 3,276 tonnes to 185 tonnes.

    Almost all Afghan opium this year came out of territories controlled by America's ally in the assault on Afghanistan, the Northern Alliance. Because of a ban on poppy farming, only one in 25 of Afghanistan's opium poppies was being grown in Taliban areas."

    http://opioids.com/afghanistan/prediction.html

    You are making a huge unlinked jump there though. The Taliban may be benefitting directly from the farmers / middle men in Afghanistan but there is no evidence that once it leaves that country it is profitted by anyone other than criminals. The majority of heroin is brought into the UK by Turkish criminals via Iran. Do you think these established Turkish gangs are suddenly going to give up the most lucrative part of the process for no apparent reason? The Turkish gangs sell to British criminal gangs - where do you suggest these British Jihadi's fit into this new equation and why would the established profiteers allow them too? Not even the BNP are claiming that "UK citizens are importing heroin as means to fund terrorism". The link between terrorism and heroin is wholly within Afghanistan. Even if it were true though (it's not mind), are all muslims to blame, regardless of their own personal beliefs and morals?

    I'm intrigued - do you actually think it's reasonable, as the leaflet suggests, to "heap condemnation" on Muslims in this country for the production of heroin in Afghanistan? Should they "apologise" because "they are responsible for 95% of the world's heroin trade"?

    Should I pop up to the shop up my road and have a right pop at the asian owner there for this outrage? I suspect he would, quite rightly, think I'm either mad or on drugs for making such a ridiculously tenuous link. Do you not agree?

    I find our post rather strange. Virtually all the sources I have come across both mainstream academic, left, right all agree that along with counterfeit goods, exporting heroin is the largest source of income for global terrorism.

    Before the last Islamic reformation (before 1990). Turkish gangs were by far and away the largest importers of Heroin from Afghanistan into the UK, however this has changed and Kashmiri gangs are monopolizing the market. I have provided numerous sources to back up my claims on the drugs trade been the chief funding tool for global Islamist terror.

    As for you banging on about the media and other people calling the Jihadist’s in Afghanistan Taliban- does it really matter what they are called? They are the same Deobandi—Wahhabi Islamists that ground the country of Afghanistan into the dirt. Making it the poorest nation on the planet.

    I get the impression that no-matter what evidence is presented to you; that you have made your mind up and will take the same dogmatic approach as many other posters.

    Drugs for guns: how the Afghan heroin trade is fuelling the Taliban insurgency

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2679747.stm[/url]-Asians gangs 'targeting heroin trade'

    But, I also remarked that Britain appeared to be ravaged by something worse-an evident plague of drug dealing and use all controlled by al Qaeda and a ‘narco terrorist’ distribution network composed of Pakistani Muslims and that vast profits from heroin production and distribution was fueling the Global jihad. Steyn opined that yes, the Global Jihad looked like one vast criminal enterprise. Certainly Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld has been saying that since her book on Narco Terrorism came out in the early 1990’s.

    http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=3135

    A UK Government spokesman has stated that Osama Bin Laden 'has been closely involved in the Afghan drugs trade and has encouraged major traffickers in the past to flood Europe and the US as a means of undermining and destabilising'.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1590827.stm

    Terrorist networks have seized on these advantages of local criminals-turned-Islamic fundamentalists, creating a new model of terrorist funding.

    While terrorists and criminal syndicates have different motivations, they both seek financial gain; only terrorists see it as a source of funding their ideological pursuits. As a result, terrorist networks in cooperation with organized crime syndicates generate significant sums of money. Both parties profit from cooperation. Terrorists provide supplies of narcotics, weapons, and contacts with drug-makers and smugglers worldwide. They also provide safe havens for organized crime syndicates, because they often control large territories where there is no rule of law. On the other hand, the terrorists readily and effectively use smuggling routes and undertake, as part of their operations, the illicit trade in goods. Both groups gather and exchange intelligence on corrupt state officials in all branches of government.

    Islamic fundamentalists, including al-Qaida members, realize profits from the drug trade in two ways. One is by taking a percentage from the local criminal syndicates, and the other is taking a portion of illicit substances transported towards Western Europe. Profits from those drug sales are used by the terrorists to purchase arms and offer bribes, but increasingly often as well for hiring professional public relations and lobbying firms to come up with political justifications of Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.

    http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/dfasa030107.htm

  8. Cocaine isn't sold purely "to make drugs lords richer". Ever heard of FARC? They are a huge terrorist organisation in Columbia funded directly by the cocaine trade. The links between cocaine and terrorism in South America is far stronger than that of heroin and terrorism in Afghanistan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary...rug_trafficking

    Over and above that, the Taliban, whilst in power in Afghanistan actually cut down the production of opium in the country as it didn't agree with their religious ideals. Production has increased dramatically since we went in and overthrew them. Since then however a new "Taliban" has emerged (Taliban is a broad term used by the media to encompass anyone against the occupation of Afghanistan). Parts of this new Taliban are without the religious ideals - they even drink alcohol. They are happy to allow opium to be grown and make money from it. This clearly has absolutely nothing to do with their religion as it goes against it.

    Which comes to my point - this leaflet is obviously intended to spread bad feeling against muslims in this country by linking their religion to something it has little, if anything, to do with (imagine giving a catholic grief in this country for the cocaine epidemic in this country?!). It's produced for morons who's only grasp of the real facts are gained from leaflets like this or what some half cut bloke at the bar spouts at their local.

    You are talking out your backside. The Taliban are not even from Afghanistan they are originally from Pakistan and are of Pashtun origin.

    The Taliban follow an extremist version of Islam called Deobandi which is taught throughout the Madrassas in Pakistan and was part of the reason why the British taxpayer is paying money to re-educate many of the Madrassa followers.

    The difference between Columbia and the Afghanistan is that; whilst I accept( to a lesser extent) cocaine finances far-left guerrilla groups in Colombia, the money is spent on fighting the government of Columbia ( in a typical political asymmetrical localised conflict)- The situation in Afghanistan couldn’t be more polarised. UK citizens are importing heroin as means to fund terrorism against there own citizens and other Western citizens that don’t follow there monolithic vision of society.

    The Heroin trade is controlled by Islamists the Cocaine trade is controlled by people who couldn’t give two hoots about religion.

  9. You can't make it up.

    The leaflet says people should "heap condemnation" on Muslims and it is time for them to "apologise" as it claims they are responsible for 95% of the world's heroin trade.

    This leaflet is clearly there to blame muslims for something which has nothing to do with their religion or them. I'm sorry for being blunt but if you cannot understand that you are a moron.

    Firstly you are making a distinction between religion, politics and society- Within tribal Afghanistan and Kashmir this simply doesn’t exist – It is called Islamism.

    The other distinction one must make between Cocaine in Columbia & Heroin in Afghanistan – is Cocaine is sold purely to make drugs lords richer, Heroin from Afghanistan is imported into our country by Muslims to partly fund terrorist activity.

    I agree with the rest of your posts in regards; to the ideal economic, political and physical conditions that Afghanistan offers.

  10. No action taken over muslim heroin claims

    -swamped-with-cheap-heroin.html"]HERE[/url] makes a similar point that 95% of Britain's heroin and 80% of Europe's heroin comes from Afghanistan.

    The Telegraph article says: "The dealers include Taliban leaders and commanders, as well as Afghan, Iranian and Pakistani traders and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, which fights for the Taliban in northern Afghanistan."

    There is an implicit link to the spread of Heroin from Afghanistan and the growth of terrorism in the UK.

    Research has highlighted that a major heroin transit route exists from the UK Kashmiri population importing drugs via Iran/Turkey through mainland Europe to their adopted UK homeland. Along with the sale of knock-off goods- it remains the greatest source of income for those pedalling the radical terrorist message in the UK.

    However, the growth of the Heroin market in Afghanistan is accelerated by the fact that the country has constantly been at war for the past 30 years. Creating ideal political, social and even geo-physical conditions for the exportation of the poppy crop. One fact that seems to elude most people is that the poppy seed from which Heroin is cultivated; flourishes when the earth is disturbed or burnt- both of which is synonymous with bombs, shells etc making Afghanistan the ideal palce to grow the crop.

  11. Like I said, I don't know how these cards would work exactly, but if it was to help in stopping them access to certain services or things that were essential to their activities then I wouldn't be against these ID cards. Don't forget that the 9/11 bombers were on a terrorist watch-list yet they were still allowed access to piloting lessons.

    Yes, but they were foreign nationals on holiday, how could this work- you would have to do thorough check on every single tourist who were to take flying lessons each. I can't see where ID cards would work. As far as the hamburg cell- some where on CIA watchlist other weren't.

  12. I would estimate that stopping terrorist activities requires a lot more sophistication than your simple anology justifies.

    You’re missing the point; a piece of plastic is not going to stop home-grown terrorists who are UK nationals. The government needs to channel its funds into a designated ethnic-integration police task-force. Which it will not as it would be deemed being not ‘politically-correct’.

    Who solely concentrate on issues such integration, stemming the tide of radical ideologies, policing religious figures ( making sure these people are vetted & monitored) stopping the flow of narcotics & knock offs from abraod- which funds terrorism & ultimately force individuals who do not want to be part of a democracy out of the country or into prison ( should they break the law).

  13. Badge kissing incident well out of order.

    Although his pace might have gone, I still have a hunch that a smart manager could still find a role for Duff in the midfield. The amount of time he used to buy for our midfield with his intelligent runs meant a lot of pressure subsequently taken off our defence.

    That mourinho is realy a poor manager.

    Those were the days, why not bring back Bryan Douglas whilst your at it; ive heard he was good in his day :rolleyes:

  14. FFS, Im just about sick of this we want duff back rubbish. Damien was my favourite player when playing for us, he was also our best player and at the time he was one of the best wingers in the world at the time. He continued this fine form in his first season at Chelsea. However a series of bad injuries, a change in mentality and an apparent disdain for training has seen the demise of a once great player.

    Before crying “bring Duff back” take off the rovers tinted specs and analyse his performance over the past three seasons. He has been nothing short of terrible, thus his cut-price sale to the barcodes and there current position of trying their utmost to replace him. He has lost his pace, ability to beat a man and hasn’t weighed in with assists or goals.

    As bad as MGP has been this season , Duff has been worse; at least Morten will chip in with a half a dozen or so goals.

  15. I agree, he does quite a lot, more than you, anyway. And how would you know how often he's logged in, that would mean you have to be online all the time checking up. But you stated previously that you'ld been away for a while, so again, I ask.

    How would you know?

    Sorry to pick on the Mods favourite, <_<

    Every time I log: it’s guaranteed he will be logged in. Im not the only one who has noticed this.

  16. The difference is: that Aesf doesn’t make 20 posts a day, nor is he active & logged into the site 24 hrs a day 365 days a year.

    BP is quite correct in what he says about Philipl, very really does he actually make a point. His posts are largely based on linking other people’s opinions, attacking other posters personaly and generally being obtuse.

    Philpl – have you ever worked with substance abusers? My guess is probably not, if you’d had you would realize the extent that drugs contribute to mental health issues.

    Class A drugs and people with either mental health issues or psychologically flawed personalities is not a good mix. Creating an environment where access to drugs is even easier than the current situation is not the answer. People react differently to drugs , take heroin for example : some people simply get stoned , in others it may bring out schizophrenic personalities : its impossible to predict.

  17. Is it a good read though?

    And to be fair, its probably not a good idea to take with you on holiday, might lead to some interesting chats with the security people.

    Interesting more so than well-written or good, its along the lines of mein kampf nowhere near as miltant or blatenly viscous though . Qutb was more intelligent than Adolf and no don’t take it abroad you may be stopped and questioned. It’s ok for those who don’t have to go through customs when holidaying.

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